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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


Varun Grover proved his innocence through an extremely detailed post so he's clean.

Yeah most of them use feminism or their supposed progressive mindset to score women or get social media brownie points. Few very men are actual allies.

Raju Hirani doesn't really have the support of left liberal twitter. He's been called out for whitewashing a criminal. Even this case he's been called out. Also the major details of the actual deed isnt public which is fine imo. Tanushree detailed out everything and there was footage of goondagiri too. Hence more blogs.


1. Varun Grover gave his explanation. Just like Nana and others gave. That proves nothing. If he is innocent until proven guilty, so are all the other accused.

2. Tanushree video footage proved her lies that it was not Nana or MNS but Media persons who were involved with a fight with her. Nobody questioned her lies or loopholes in the claim. Even the FIR back then was between her and Media. Her issue was over a dance step and unless there is proof that they went ahead forcefully, it comes under professional disagreement. Not Sexual harassment.

Giving "detailed" explanation like Varun or making "detailed" accusation like Tanushree is not criteria of Truth.

3. Raju Hirani has not been called the kind of names Nana Patekar was. Dibakar Bannerjee or Soumik Sen were not asked to be fired. Nobody asked questions to Emraan Hashmi as to why he did not remove the director name from the poster like others were.

If you are talking about people bashing Sanju for whitewashing - that has more to do with the film bashing media reporters. Not because they really care about glorifying convicts. Have you ever seen these Left guys writing blogs protesting over glorification of a Dawood Ibrahim or Omer Sheikh? No.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ThunderLight


1. Varun Grover gave his explanation. Just like Nana and others gave. That proves nothing.If he is innocent until proven guilty, so are all the other accused.

2. Tanushree video footage proved her lies that it was not Nana or MNS but Media persons who were involved with a fight with her. Nobody questioned her lies or loopholes in the claim. Even the FIR back then was between her and Media. Her issue was over a dance step and unless there is proof that they went ahead forcefully, it comes under professional disagreement. Not harassment.

3. Raju Hirani has not been called the kind of names Nana Patekar was. Dibakar Bannerjee or Soumik Sen were not asked to be fired as Nana Patekar was.


The girl who accused Varun doesnt even exist. The drama he supposedly casted her for didnt exist neither was she in the drama team. The people she was posting allegations through asked for one identity proof that she even attended the uni and she couldn't give it. Case closed. It wasnt a he vs she story. Facts and details were given out. There was proof.

Janice sequira corroborated her story. Nana pushed her around and touched her inappropriately on the pretext of making her learn a dancestep and nobody on the sets said anything. So definite sexual harassment at workplace. Know the details before saying stuff.

Again its because the victim isn't in the limelight to speak out.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


The girl who accused Varun doesnt even exist. The drama he supposedly casted her for didnt exist neither was she in the drama team. The people she was posting allegations through asked for one identity proof that she even attended the uni and she couldn't give it. Case closed. It wasnt a he vs she story. Facts and details were given out. There was proof.

Janice sequira corroborated her story. Nana pushed her around and touched her inappropriately on the pretext of making her learn a dancestep and nobody on the sets said anything. So definite sexual harassment at workplace. Know the details before saying stuff.

Again its because the victim isn't in the limelight to speak out.


Who is Janice Sequeira? What is her credibility? Surprising how she used the term MNS goons when Video evidence showed that it was her fraternity who got into a tiff with her. You can search 2002 news and videos. Even a Sahara Camera person told that it was he in the video. And given how Tanushree made statements like seeing Jesus in her dream, then bashed Church priests for praying for Rakhi and her other bizarre claims, I dont know why she is taken seriously. It seems to be a massive plan to divert attention from the Kerala Bishop case that was making Prime time headlines.

If you are believing Varun Grover explanation, you should believe Nana Patekar too. That he was practising the dance steps and she had to touch him. It was a item song. And there were 200 crew members including media. And there was male voice in the video. The Police FIR of 2002 was between Tanushree and the Media persons. No mention was made of sexual harassment.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ThunderLight


Who is Janice Sequeira? What is her credibility? Surprising how she used the term MNS goons when Video evidence showed that it was her fraternity who got into a tiff with her. You can search 2002 news and videos. Even a Sahara Camera person told that it was he in the video. And given how Tanushree made statements like seeing Jesus in her dream, then bashed Church priests for praying for Rakhi and her other bizarre claims, I dont know why she is taken seriously. It seems to be a massive plan to divert attention from the Kerala Bishop case that was making Prime time headlines.

If you are believing Varun Grover explanation, you should believe Nana Patekar too. That he was practising the dance steps and she had to touch him. It was a item song. And there were 200 crew members including media. And there was male voice in the video. The Police FIR of 2002 was between Tanushree and the Media persons. No mention was made of sexual harassment.


Its useless explaining this lol. Varun's accuser doesn't exist. Whoever it was made that up. She wasnt even a student of the uni or the drama team. What explanation can possibly be there 😆

And I don't expect any woman to speak out on sexual harassment in 2002. A newbie like Tanushree definitely couldn't but she did it when the world was. Then again,you can believe whatever you want to though like so many here. Also women confide in each other about stuff like this all the time. What kinda credibility does one need for that?
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


Its useless explaining this lol. Varun's accuser doesn't exist. Whoever it was made that up. She wasnt even a student of the uni or the drama team. What explanation can possibly be there 😆

And I don't expect any woman to speak out on sexual harassment in 2002. A newbie like Tanushree definitely couldn't but she did it when the world was. Then again,you can believe whatever you want to though like so many here. Also women confide in each other about stuff like this all the time. What kinda credibility does one need for that?


I think when you say you are a journalist and misrepresent a "Well covered" media attack as that by a MNS goon attack, your credibility gets thrown out of the window. Shiney's maid booked him and you are saying a Miss India who was always in news for controversies back then, went to Police station - filed a FIR against Media persons - but not the costar or choreographer? Instead she filed complaint against the woman who replaced her and the producers. Ok.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Stree

Cant believe perverts like varun is being defended here.

At the end of the day it's all about right vs left.. 😆


I'd defend Varun the same way I defend Hrithik cause they gave ample proof to solidy their case. These divisions on religion and political inclinations could be in the heads of people who dont really care of the movement. But that aint me nomatter how one tries to spin it 😆
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


I'd defend Varun the same way I defend Hrithik cause they gave ample proof to solidy their case. These divisions on religion and political inclinations could be in the heads of people who dont really care of the movement. But that aint me nomatter how one tries to spin it 😆


Hrithik was the victim in that case. Not the accused. Even if he did have an affair, it is not a crime. So, to equate it to Varun is ridiculous. That shows how confused you are about everything. And incase you forgot, these Left backed people were up in arms against the victim for exposing his stalker and harasser with Proofs.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ThunderLight


Hrithik was the victim in that case. Not the accused. Even if he did have an affair, it is not a crime. So, to equate it to Varun is ridiculous. That shows how confused you are about everything. And incase you forgot, these Left backed people were up in arms against the victim for exposing his stalker and harasser.


Oh please. 😆 Kangana said a bunch of lies and Hrithik gave proof otherwise. Same with Varun. Thats those cases in simplicity. And yeah everybody in this forum is confused except you😆. And yeah the left did back Kangana which I keep saying is because she is a woman. Not because she was right. But that's not the case with the other parties. Most of the men are guilty. But like I said you can believe whatever you want to.
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Originally posted by: AllThatCritique


Oh please. 😆 Kangana said a bunch of lies and Hrithik gave proof otherwise. Same with Varun. Thats those cases in simplicity. And yeah everybody in this forum is confused except you😆. And yeah the left did back Kangana which I keep saying is because she is a woman. Not because she was right. But that's not the case with the other parties. Most of the men are guilty. But like I said you can believe whatever you want to.


Excuse me. AIB guys got fired for sexual harassment. Why? Because they sent Unsolicited explicit mails. Kangana has done that and far worse things - not just to Hrithik but also other stars. So, it shows the kind of hypocrisy that goes on everywhere where forget about condemning the woman for not respecting consent, there are people promoting her harassment as if she has done something great.

Which again comes to the same issue that how different yardsticks are applied based on gender or political allegiance. If Kangana was a man, she would have been fired from all her films by now. And not given platforms to harass the victim. Did anyone care about Nana Patekar struggle as a outsider, his 4 National awards, his Talent, his Social work or his rise from the chawls?

The Left always protect their own while preaching moral science lectures to the world. Dibanker Banerjee continues to shoot for YRF film, Soumik continues to be in Posters, Varun Grover is back in Sacred Games and same with Jatin Das.
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