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Posted: 7 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

All those incidents that you have pointed out are definitely unacceptable, but can Saanjh alone be blamed for that? If Arjun is going after Saanjh, Maya should have controlled Arjun, isn't it? Of course, she tried to rein him many times but Arjun grew only bolder over time & started ignoring Maya's protests!

Now, coming to Saanjh, she went away from their life, after all those incidents that happened in S1! Did she not?

When Saanjh returned back, she was supposed to get married to Samay! And Mathur family stayed firm on their decision, including Saanjh! But still Maya & Samay's plan failed to materialise because of Prem's death! A dead father's ashes & later on Arjun came to rescue Saanjh from that unwanted marriage with Samay! So, it was not in her destiny to leave once for all from Arjun's life, even though Maya desperately would have loved it!
And the same Samay, who was supposed to separate Saanjh from Arjun ended up as the reason for Maya to lose Arjun's love! Arjun clearly told Maya that because of Samay he stopped loving her! He was staying in the marriage as only a father of his bandar! When that child was gone, there was no reason compelling for him to stay with Maya!
Prem's death, Ayaan's near death & Vandana's death all happened one after another to completely seal the fate of ArYa's marriage! And Maya has no hesitation in owning up her responsibility in them all!





Arjun can also be blamed for these incidents... but let's not forget we were discussing saanjh here.You said that saanjh had accepted Arya and had moved on...i was simply describing an incident that occurred which proves that she did not. Saanjh did leave Arya after season 1..bt please let's not pretend it was on her own accord...it was only because Arjun broke their relationship and kicked her out of their lives. People like you say that Maya should have controlled Arjun and then it is people like you that also say that she is too controlling and suffocating. You say that Arjun keeps 'going after saanjh' and that he should be 'controlled' by Maya. By doing so you have indirectly admitted that the relationship that saanjh and Arjun is not acceptable given that one of them is married. But then it is also people like you that find it wrong that Maya wanted to break Arjun and saanjhs relationship. I cannot justify the methods that's shes used to break them up... but I will never blame her for wanting to break them up...because like you admitted Arjun keeps "going after saanjh".

Saanjh was going to get married to samay. However, after she lost ayaans case...all she did was cry for arjun. A result of this was a very angry Suman.. who had to remind her that Samay was a very good guy for her...she continued to say that although saanjh says that Maya is obsessed with Arjun.. it is she that is even more obsessed. Does this sound like someone that has moved on with their life. The girl is literally pining over someone despite her being engaged to someone else. The only mistake Maya made was forcing samay to marry saanjh knowing that he did not love her. I don't blame Maya for prems death... she never planned it... she didn't want it.. she didn't instruct Samay to do it. She told Samay to delete the video... not delete prem.

The fact of the matter is that Arjun and saanjhs relationship is not normal. People call it a 'friendship' but it crosses the boundaries of friendship. Had Maya not been a negative character...people would feel sorry for her. People would recognise that her relationship with Arjun is a three people relationship. He is not only hers...she does have to share him with someone else. But because she is negative no one sees that. What she has done is so bad... that no one recognises the faults of others. But that doesn't change the fact that those faults do exist


Edited by Beyhadfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Amysheldon


Answer to your question why we feel for saanj and saanj also
1) saanj didn't get Arjun love and intitally she was heartbroken but she overcome it and helped in marriage and what she got finally was mistress tag
2) saanj who lost her father bcz of murderer maya and happy going family was broken
3) Arjun is the only happiness she didn't get? So did she get samay whom she thought he loved her truly? Maya got the only happiness that's Arjun... how can you conclude that Arjun is the only happiness she craved in her life? Do we know her past? Do we know that did she really had troubled childhood or this was drama created by her? Do we know that no one came to do friendship with her till now? We can't conclude Arjun is the only happiness in her life till now unless we know completely about her... what happiness is that when she can destroy if she can't get it... it's she chose Arjun and thought he is her happiness ... she had chances to become normal in asylum but she chose not to recover and it suggests that what kind of efforts she is keeping to keep her only happiness(Arjun) that she got in her life to be with her... she wants to control and that person who wants to control can never have happiness bcz he or she always crave more ...

In all these who lost actually? Saanj and Arjun as their families got destroyed by murderer maya... of course we feel bad for them ...






1)saanjh didn't receive Arjuns love..so she overcame this... how? ...by leaning in to kiss him while his wife watched.BTW if anyone other then Maya had seen saanjh on that day she would have received the mistress tag there and then... not three years later.

2) Maya did not murder prem. she didn't wish it, want it, instruct it or even know that it was going to happen. Samay also nearly killed saanjh when he thought that she had some evidence against Maya. This didn't happen because her family walked in. Did Maya instruct him to get rid of that evidence...NO. He himself was willing to get rid of it by taking saanjhs life.

3) Ok so we cannot 100% confirm that Arjun was the ONLY happiness Maya ever received. But we can confirm that saanjh has experienced much more happiness in her life then Maya ever did. She has had what Maya has never had and that includes: two supportive devoted loving parents, loving friendships and a loving relationship with her sibling.
Now about Maya's childhood. It is possible that she may have made the story up. But why are there some people willing to believe that it is not?. This because other the Maya's childhood flashbacks the audience has experienced Ashwin malhotras character in the present. We witnessed a cruel father... who was willing to do anything in order to get his hands on his daughters fortune. He tried to do this by attempting to kill her mother several times and fianc once. He also watched her drown and was very happy about it. He made a deal with a man that had used Maya for his own disgusting needs. Other then this we have witnessed him be physically aggressive with both jhanvi and Maya. Lastly, he gets a thrill out of seeing Maya be afraid of him. Other then this we have also witnessed jhanvi pine for this man... love this man and on many occasions...willing to take this man back despite witnessing his disgusting behaviour towards their daughter. Now after this if you still don't believe that Maya's childhood is what she says it is. I think we can still probably agree that her childhood was shit because she had two extremely shit parents. Even if you don't believe her flashbacks.. the present suggests that both Maya's parents were the complete opposite to what saanjhs parents were.
Edited by Beyhadfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Best post you have made in this forum. Maya is so bad, she deserves all the bad things of this world because she has ruined the life of innocent Saanjh. I am fed up of this. What they showed about Maya's character is exactly how she was supposed to be. Her love is extreme. She has no control over the things she does to keep her love with her.She is fully aware that what she's doing is not right but she cannot stop herself.
This topic is about Saanjh.So will not talk about Maya much but all I see is Saanjh in spite of getting all the happiness of this world chooses to remain unhappy because she has not got her Arjun.
Like TM said we overlook everything that Saanjh has done because Maya is a negative character. But had she been positive would be have sided with Saanjh then? She would be obviously look like the other woman interfering in the lives of a married couple. First the drama she did at the wedding along with her Duffer and actually humiliated Maya who was sitting at the mandap while Dusky Duffer were telling ILU and singing sad song and rubbing noses. Then the about to kiss scene in thehote.During holi people are like because Maya had spiked the drink so Dusky was behaving shamelessly. But what made Maya to spike that drink ? Dusky's dupatta caught fire during Holi puja, and Maya saved her burning her own hands but neither her husband nor Saanjh bothered to check on her. They were busy hugging each other while the wife was sitting their with her burnt hands looking at her husband hugging his friend with tears rolling down her eyes. This scene would have a complete different impact had the wife been totally white character but since it's Maya so she deserves no sympathy. Let her cry because she deserves it and Saanjh should be taken care of and hugged because she deserves to be happy, the poor innocent soul.
Maya knew it would be so easy to show Dusky Duffers real feelings in front of the world because Dusky herself said after ArYa marriage she will hide her love in the cover of friendship. Such a sick dialogue!! So Maya knew if intoxicated that cover would fall and her true feelings for Arjun would come out.
Had Samay and Maya not been obsessive lovers we could easily see Saajuns sick relationship which they have given the name of friendship. Saanjh only gets out of Duffers life when he insults her or kicks her out or else this girl has no self respect and will run behind Arjun at the drop of a hat.
Saanjh character has no growth in any season and inspite of everyone loving this girl she has not been able to move on .
TM u r right when you said Maya didn't have to pay anyone to say what they felt about Dusky Duffer relationship. Everyday bringing her to office hugging her behind closed doors and throwing file at the peon who dared to enter doesnt look nice. Saanjh herself has made herself look like his mistress and I feel she will be more than happy to stay that also .She got angry and walked off when Vandana had said no one can love Arjun more than Maya but became so happy with Vandana blessings that Arjun should now love her because she's the best.
No wife could stay happy in this relation where her husband calls his best friend who has romantic feelings for him as his pagalpan and he would never leave her come what may. He tells his pregnant wife to go home with the brother who was in jail with attempted rape because that time Arjun didn't know and offers to take his pagalpan home. While this pagalpan stands there mute so happy that Duffer is with her.

It was so easy for both Samay and Ayaan to provoke Maya saying Dusky and Duffer were in a relationship because they knew these two would either be caught hugging or in some intimate position of they were to provide a proof. A wife cannot be happy and secure it she knows that her husband is always running behind a friend who loves him and is ready to marry him if he asked. But Maya doesn't get sympathy because she's so bad and Saanjh is abla nari.

I don't see this face off as good vs evil because I don't see any good people here. The people who claim are good are terribly flawed and it's these flaws that resulted in evil. Had Maya not killed then who would actually be the good ppl who was wronged? Would be have seen saanjh as innocent victim then? I actually still see her obsessed with Arjun that she has now involved her whole family in Arjuns mess and us herself on a run, a criminal in the eyes of law.

Saanjh didn't value anything that she got from life but went behind the one thing she didn't get and destroyed her own family in her madness and in the end she will get that one thing also at the cost of her dads life .Will it be a true win for her after she gets her happiness trophyher Arjun? For me she w will be the biggest loser after she wins her trophy Arjun! To get someone like Duffer she actually sacrificed her family and she's the so called normal girl!! Lol! But who cares? Arjun is her obsession and the things she got from life seems petty to her and at last she will get her reward Arjun, the only happiness according to her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Am not surprised looking at yet another post against saanjh after all there are still some dilusional maya's fans does exist.no wonder. Good luck with such kind of thinking where you support the evil ...😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Ok sanjh had her share of long mistakes for the only happiness she never got ... But even though she never wanted anything bad for that happiness/arjun , but according to you as maya only got one happiness that was arjun so why was she proving arjun to be wrong and selfish since beginning even before she married arjun ... If you remember one of the fash back scene shown during Maya's case proceedings the maya-malkani scene regarding the shares transfer of the company to arjun ... In that scene maya was proving that arjun is marrying maya for the property , but she was the one transferring it on her own ... At that time no so called "KISS" happened , no one was anyone's husband/wife ... Sowhat was the only happiness preserving methods she had ?? I guess we all know that ...
If we have only one thing to preserve we take care of it from.our heart ... The point is people say sanjh always runs behind arjun , arjun is her toy ... but actually maya also never thought arjun as a person , arjun is treated as an object in this show ...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyhadfan

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3) Ok so we cannot 100% confirm that Arjun was the ONLY happiness Maya ever received. But we can confirm that saanjh has experienced much more happiness in her life then Maya ever did. She has had what Maya has never had and that includes: two supportive devoted loving parents, loving friendships and a loving relationship with her sibling.
Now about Maya's childhood. It is possible that she may have made the story up. But why are there some people willing to believe that it is not?. This because other the Maya's childhood flashbacks the audience has experienced Ashwin malhotras character in the present. We witnessed a cruel father... who was willing to do anything in order to get his hands on his daughters fortune. He tried to do this by attempting to kill her mother several times and fianc once. He also watched her drown and was very happy about it. He made a deal with a man that had used Maya for his own disgusting needs. Other then this we have witnessed him be physically aggressive with both jhanvi and Maya. Lastly, he gets a thrill out of seeing Maya be afraid of him. Other then this we have also witnessed jhanvi pine for this man... love this man and on many occasions...willing to take this man back despite witnessing his disgusting behaviour towards their daughter. Now after this if you still don't believe that Maya's childhood is what she says it is. I think we can still probably agree that her childhood was shit because she had two extremely shit parents. Even if you don't believe her flashbacks.. the present suggests that both Maya's parents were the complete opposite to what saanjhs parents were.


Sorry to the TM I am not able to understand the point of the post ... Ok we are discussing about the happiness sanjh had since beginning .. a good family support , good friends , a loving brother ... Yes this is what maya lacks in her childhood ... Yes sanjh had more happier life than maya ... So what ?
In this word there are different people Everyone have a different upbringing ... Yes no one deserves anyonelike ashvin in there life ... And your life events moulds your personality ..

I'm unable to understand What is the aim of the post by comparing happiness ??
Everyone have a different life to live and different levels of ups and downs ... Yes sanjh had a good family support , which maya never had , so what ?

See the topic like this will go nowhere but able to reach many pages of no valid discussions ... The topics regarding maya vs sanjh always had such fate...
Edited by poornima_15 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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TM the people defending Saanjh cannot give a single concrete reason so will keep on saying Maya is evil and people are supporting evil 😆.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: poornima_15

Ok sanjh had her share of long mistakes for the only happiness she never got ... But even though she never wanted anything bad for that happiness/arjun , but according to you as maya only got one happiness that was arjun so why was she proving arjun to be wrong and selfish since beginning even before she married arjun ... If you remember one of the fash back scene shown during Maya's case proceedings the maya-malkani scene regarding the shares transfer of the company to arjun ... In that scene maya was proving that arjun is marrying maya for the property , but she was the one transferring it on her own ... At that time no so called "KISS" happened , no one was anyone's husband/wife ... Sowhat was the only happiness preserving methods she had ?? I guess we all know that ...

If we have only one thing to preserve we take care of it from.our heart ... The point is people say sanjh always runs behind arjun , arjun is her toy ... but actually maya also never thought arjun as a person , arjun is treated as an object in this show ...


I think you forgot Maya had heard Arjun telling his friends that she married Maya for money. Not once but many times Arjun had said he is so lucky to have married a beautiful rich girl and now his life is set. Arjun never loved her in true sense. There was always Dusky in his mind and you think Maya isn't clever enough not to notice it. She knew some day or other this will come and it did... like he's screaming Now that dusky is his pagalpan... aaj main sirf dusky Ka duffer hu. How sick are these dialogues. Like I said if Maya was not evil and killed people this dusky duffer relation would not have looked good but since Maya's way of keeping arjun are extreme so dusky looks victim here and Arjun the husband who is a toy.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nobody is feeling bad for Saanjh coz she never got Arjun. Atleast, I don't, not anymore. But yes, I sure pity her because she had to go through so much, lose her father, her integrity n self respect because she loved a moron like Arjun who was the object of Maya's desperation n a victim of her psychiatric illness/evil mind.
And @Shreya nobody is trying to 'defend' Saanjh here. Everyone's simply answering the TM's question as to why they feel bad for Saanjh. Which unfortunately, cannot be answered without listing down Maya's crimes against her.
Edited by lumos_31 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: lumos_31

Nobody is feeling bad for Saanjh coz she never got Arjun. Atleast, I don't, not anymore. But yes, I sure pity her because she had to go through so much, lose her father, her integrity n self respect because she loved a moron like Arjun who was the object of Maya's desperation n a victim of her psychiatric illness/evil mind.

And @Shreya nobody is trying to 'defend' Saanjh here. Everyone's simply answering the TM's question as to why they feel bad for Saanjh. Which unfortunately, cannot be answered without listing down Maya's crimes against her.


I don't even feel pity for her because she brought down all this by herself and her obssesion for Arjun.
I am not in the mood to write any more essays explaining why but I DONT and will NEVER feel for her sorrow.
You can enjoy now that your innocent victims will now get justice and Saanjh will get her only happiness Arjun and Maya will die. But I am sure even if she dies she will remain winner while even after winning they will be made to look like losers because Maya unhe uski Jeet bheek mein degi. They can never defeat Maya unless she herself accepts it and I know for that Arjun she will do that too. Haar K bhi jitegi Maya OK you get that!
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