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Posted: 7 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: sunithi

Pic of burning something posted by AD .is it fashion & city burning Maya and Arjun losing everything,VM curses to play out time..

Aditi Ur guess seems to be correct about VM curse..Arjun is the best husband any1 would ever get...

Some kind of retaliation/revenge for the death of Prem?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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18/5/2017

I will start with Arjun today. I guess I somewhat got a grip of this man today. Maya and Saanjh I have understood to some extend, but Arjun was an enigma. Many times he contradicted himself. What is this man's problem. He cannot balance. He doesnt know to balance. Well it also goes to his childhood where all his thoughts has been dismissed as perceptions. He is not confident of his decisions, he wants to prove his decision is right. He has lot of desperation on this front. Maya says I am your biggest mistake right. you have tolerated me. Our child cannot tolerate me. Protect the symbol of our love from me. He tells it is not him, but only their love can protect it. Why he tells their love. Because he cannot protect the baby alone, Maya has to help him. She has to make effort to come out of the darkness that engulf her. She has to fight the battle of her life in the direction he has kept. Only she can make the world say Arjun didnt make a wrong choice. Maya is not Arjun's mistake, Maya is right for Arjun. Only her actions can make it happen. He tells you are not wrong, but your parents were wrong, the society that didnt give you second chance was wrong, I was wrong by taking your hand didnt show you the right way. You have gone so long in the wrong way, today you are unable to see between right and wrong. His dilemma is in that dialogue if try to reduce her madness, her love goes, if love is reduced madness goes to extreme. In season 2 beginning what he did was reducing love, because he was fed up. Yes Arjun was fed up. But individually he reducing love didnt affect Maya to great extend. She lived in the delusional world, Arjun loves me. But the moment Saanjh came and he went home, her madness increased. I feel Arjun knows what has happned to Ayan to some extend and keeps himself responsible for it to some extend. So he loves her, covers up her mistakes so that madness is in control. But covering up her mistakes doesnt help. it is another loop. Accepting her mistakes and slowly directing her towards right thing help. But at this point he is unable to do so. Maya has to be taught the limits. Today when Saanjh was speaking against Arjun, Maya came in front Arjun stopped her. She went back, but then those eyes says she is angry. Very very angry. She cant tolerate anything against Arjun. Her hadh becomes beyhadh.

Coming to Maya. When Saanjh came mocking her and she moved backwards clutching her belly actually I was reminded of Maya who moves backwards seeing Ashwin. Maya the defenseless child. Maya what she was before the 9th birthday. That child feels helpless. Whenever Maya saw Ashwin she doesnt remember herself as a woman who has survived him and set up a company, but a child who has been torturted by him. When she sees Saanjh she doesnt think herself as a woman who has won against Saanjh twice, but the mother of a child, whose child is at risk from this woman. Maya had inherent strength to deal with Ashwin, but then she needed Arjun to stand up against Ashwin. Even now she calls Arjun, my child. She is unable to defend herself. This is what that needs to change in Maya. She has inherent strength, she can deal with the society. She can fight the society who is trying to take away her child. She can do it. She needs that belief. Today when Arjun told he loves only her she was happy. When Arjun told people who come to rob in the house will get punishment she felt relieved. But then Saanjh dialogues cut through the calm. Saanjh's slap to Arjun. Saanjh mentioning why did I love a man like you etc etc has affected her. The calm was gone.

Coming to Saanjh. It was wrong for her to come to hospital. Arjun had taken Maya to the hospital. Right or wrong they are a couple. Husband and wife. A third wheel is not needed in that place to expose Maya. Hospital is not the place to expose someone bad and mad. If it is justice for Ayan, start the step for reopening the case. Dont come in front of Maya and tell you will be exposed. Why she tells that. Because she knows Maya's biggest fear is not court case, but losing Arjun. She has come to show Arjun the proof of what Maya has done so that Arjun will leave her. Yes Dusky plays this card very well. She played that in engagement when she took Arjun's hand. Yes her love for Arjun is beyhadh, the unrequited one side love. Starlet and jane why Saanjh slapped Arjun when she said he wont leave Maya is because at that point her ego was hurt. When Arjun told he loved Maya, he loves Maya and he will continue to love Maya she lost as a woman in front of Arjun. Arjun doesnt love her the way a man loves woman, that love he has given to Maya. She couldnt win against Maya in getting Arjun's love. Arjun loves bad and mad Maya. Arjun accepts Maya's love for him is beyhadh he is fine with that, but he doesnt want her beyhadh love. He only wanted her friendship nothing more. Then her dialogue why in the world I loved a man like you. Grapes are always sour is all I can tell about her dialogue. Hell hath the fury a woman scorned. That is what Arjun has done to Dusky. He rejected her as a woman. No she wont sit quiet. Yes justice for Ayan will be camoflauge, but she will go for the cut with complete vigour.

Suman is a woman who married the man she loved. So she knows society cannot do much as far as lovers go. It is their choices, their mistakes and their lives. Leave them. This Suman has told multiple times to VM and Saanjh. Alas it is too late Suman. Voice of sanity is too late. You and Prem were simple people who set up a simple family with your love. You both trusted, loved and understood each other.So you extended it to everyone including your daughter and VM. But the world is not that Suman. It doesnt understand the language of love or sanity. It moves with Maya or perceptions. The perception that world is like you is what is going to take your husband Suman.
Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#83
Wow last para brought tears,Prem the man who is meant for love won't be there from now on..
Saanj was hurt only becox Arjun doesn't or never love her that made her slap him..she jux repeated those dialogues and slapped him..did she stopped there? No..she didn't understand..again she repeated will ask dad to send it you then go to hell..she is jux not understanding...

Samay that guy got perplexed ang waiting for his plan to start..


Felt so bad for Arya,I am very sure their Love will conquer the world at last..true love prevails over anything and everything...

Ur babubali conculsion and beyhadh conculsion gonna be same..

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Posted: 7 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Some kind of retaliation/revenge for the death of Prem?

not sure..might be accidental or samay plan..I guess so not sure..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: sunithi

not sure..might be accidental or samay plan..I guess so not sure..

Samay was asking for Maya's forgiveness in the pre-cap! He says he will correct the mistake by killing Prem!

What was Samay's mistake? Did he keep the data in pen drive when Maya would have wanted it destroyed without any trace? Was he interested in using that pendrive as a blackmail tool to make maya listen to his wishes?
But how did it find a way to Jhanvi's wheel-chair? Was maya aware of that earlier or she came to know only very late? Is she angry because of that with Samay? And is Samay making amends by destroying the evidence including the person possessing it still? is Maya indirectly linked in this death, if she is in the know of how Samay is going to rectify the mistake?

Possibilities or mere speculations? Fire incident could be accidental, but timing of it, raises some doubts! If it is a non-event, will AD care to post?
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Samay was asking for Maya's forgiveness in the pre-cap! He says he will correct the mistake by killing Prem!

What was Samay's mistake? Did he keep the data in pen drive when Maya would have wanted it destroyed without any trace? Was he interested in using that pendrive as a blackmail tool to make maya listen to his wishes?
But how did it find a way to Jhanvi's wheel-chair? Was maya aware of that earlier or she came to know only very late? Is she angry because of that with Samay? And is Samay making amends by destroying the evidence including the person possessing it still? is Maya indirectly linked in this death, if she is in the know of how Samay is going to rectify the mistake?

Possibilities or mere speculations? Fire incident could be accidental, but timing of it, raises some doubts! If it is a non-event, will AD care to post?

samay is crazy,he might ve thought he being there,some1 caught hold of evidence which is against maya...he is killing Prem for that..I am not foreseeing maya involvement in this... anyways it's beyhadh,let's see how it unfolds .it's my wild guess about fire accident as sday VM said she can't do anything and ve to see how Arjun suffering...her curses needs to play out...let's see
Edited by sunithi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#87
I am eagerly waiting to see how Maya gonna react to jhanvi now on???Jhanvi says when she opens mouth big Hungama will happen,what is that..sday Arjun said I know every bad deeds done by Maya??what r they??is it include Maya ka sach???
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Posted: 7 years ago
#88
@sunithi Arjun knows a lot about Maya. His dialogue you have done too much into the mess shows, he knows.
See any good story, good script has to show true love wins. Love that the society didn't support, time brings victory to it. The essence of both of our epics is the same.Also voice of sanity always whispers, never screams. That's why we always see Suman talking very softly practically in most situations while VM and Saanjh screams at the drop of a hat.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@krystal answer my simple question. Why does Saanjh need to personally show the video to Arjun. In the fight for justice for Ayan why she need to show that proof to Arjun. She need not. Second why did she tell Maya she has mailed it to Prem and Samay. To VM she tells she is mailing to Arjun also. So has she sent to Arjun. If yes why she withhold the information. Because bad and mad Maya can kill Arjun. If so is it ok if bad and mad Maya kill Prem and Samay. Tell me.

Third is she the defense lawyer of Ayan. She emailed it. Does she think that is enough to prove Ayan innocent. No.
First question in court from where did you get the video. Pen drive. Bring pen drive to the court. Pen drive is formatted. It is blank. File recovery will have to be used to get what is in that pen drive. Now she gets it in pen drive, from where the data came to pen drive. Original hard disk of CCTV. Now here forscenic evidence has to establish clearly Maya has erased one day's data or particular data. Now the short circuit of CCTV has happened, obviously data in the short term memory would have been erased, things will be there in hard disk. The source is still with Maya which can be tampered. Without source evidence cannot be accepted in court. The file's credibility has to be established beyond suspicion. With whatever Saanjh did Maya can be proven bad and mad for Arjun, but Ayan cannot be proven innocent in court.

@Darling the illusion has not lifted yet. So it will be difficult to watch. CVs are not glorifying Saanjh or VM. They have given enough rope for Maya. But the battle Maya has to fight. She only can remove the inner demons

@kavya the last line Maya told was " I am mentally unstable " .

@Ashi what is the equation. Equation is we have a mentally unstable wife who is pregnant, a man who doesnt know what to do with his wife. he can neither leave her nor live with her, a lady who claims to be friend but has unrequited love for the man who still yearns for the man. You remove the mentally unstable lady once she has the child because she herself wants to move away from her child's path, the lady who yearns for the man comes to the house in the name of taking care of the child and then lives a married life with him. Goes on telling the sob story I married the man for the child. Samay or time has to change this equation. Perception has to go, but the lady has to get her husband and child. Another woman cannot come claiming to marry the man in the name of the child.



Bold: She ultimately revealed Arjun's name before Maya too, did she not?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#90
Yes not to the Maya who was pointing gun. But to the Maya was who was shivering moving backwards seeing her. Maya who was literally terrified of her. Why it was not told to the gun wielding Maya. Why it has to be told after she tells you fired at me. Look nothing happened to me, you are in hospital. Well I cannot explain more at this point. I only know Saanjh's dialogue only tells Ayan ka justice, most of her actions are not in line with that goal.
Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago
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