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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: sumz_d

Shruti Di i don't agree fully with your analysis of today's episode.

And the things I don't agree on is on or have a different POV are:

1) Ayaan - So in today's episode he said another derogatory word in Maya's ears. He swore her and insulted her the second time.

I agree that although Maya got Ayaan arrested on a wrong charge, the fact is Ayaan is overlooking his own mistakes.

Why did Maya trap Ayaan in the case first of all? It was Ayaan who gave her an opportunity. It was Ayaan who acted first and then Maya reacted in an extreme manner by making sure he gets punished. Maya showed a little more than what he had done, but we are still not sure what all he would have done and what he meant by his filthy dialogues. Ayaan is giving me negative vibes now. He still doesn' t realise his own mistakes that he done. There's a famous hindi proverb "taali ek haath se nahi bajti". It is Ayaan who first had acted and he DID PHYSICALLY ASSAULT HER and VERBALLY INSULT HER by saying DEROGATORY WORDS. At least Maya admits her faults but when will Ayaan learn this? He should look into the mirror first before pointing finger on Maya.

2) VM - Well maybe she is extreme but now atleast she is ready to give Maya a chance which previously she had denied. And overall she wants all to be at peace and happy. Maybe her way of handling Ayaan is not right, but her intentions/desires are not wrong either.

3) Saanjh - All I can say is she is going to become a pawn in Ayaan's hands. The way Ayaan was instigating Saanjh in such a desperate manner by even counting Samay's death. Samay who had actually killed Prem and was a pain for Maya too. For that Samay Ayaan is feeling sorry for. His desperation to prove Maya as mad and bad is extreme more than Saanjh this time.

4) Maya - Well she again gave me a negative vibe. First of all Why did she deny having those medicines at all? If she really wants to turn over a new leaf then why didn't she take proper treatment? Does she not want to be treated? What are they trying to show? I am confused now.

5) Arjun!!! This guy is really confusing. I just don't understand this character. I mean he does know about Maya's jealousy/insecurity about Saanjh and himself but still he gets all physical with Saanjh infront of Maya. Does he want Maya to be cured or not? Why does he always have to chipkoo with Saanjh and that too in Maya's presence. He is actually the root cause of all the problems. He makes Maya feel insecure and doesn't let Saanjh move on either. And he does know that Saanjh loves him despite of that he still gets all physical with Saanjh. Why does he play with Saanjh's feelings also? I understand that for Arjun Saanjh is like a guy friend. But still where is his common sense? When will he learn to behave properly? Imagine even after the child is born and he still gets all chipkoo with Saanjh how will the child feel? He will drive his child insane too. Just like he has driven both Maya and Saanjh insane.

PS: So that ward room of Maya never used to cleaned untill Maya left. Only after six months the ward room of the hospital gets cleaned ha. Amazing! Lol. What a unhygienic hospital.

One thing about Beyhadh is that most of the characters are beyhadh in their own way. They all tend to be extreme at one point of time.




Fully agree with whatever you said. I felt the same but I also felt bad for Ayaan and Maya. Ayaan is wrong. I don't like how he is still not realizing his own wrongs like other characters in the show and think only Maya is wrong. He should look into himself what he first did to Maya. He physically and sexually assaulted her yet claims he did nothing at all. At the same time though, I feel bad for him that he got rape attempt accusation on his head if he really wasn't going to rape her which the Cvs still haven't shown what Ayaan meant by those dialogues, etc then. Anyway, He still makes MUCH MORE sense to try taking revenge as at least he was wronged by Maya even though he was wrong too. I can tolerate him against Maya much better than Saanjh against Maya where Maya never even did any wrong to Saanjh. Just don't get why Saanjh hates Maya when she wasn't even wronged by Maya ever. The samay think happened later on after she herself tried to wreck her house and killed her child, but she's has been after Maya from S1 which is why I can never relate to Saanjh. Her whole character just doesn't make sense for me at all. Maya is the victim of Saanjh but instead Saanjh always acts like the victim which is SO STUPID AND ILLOGICAL. 🥱


As for Vandana, I liked that she finally accepted Maya even though it's so unbelievable because even before Maya was always nice to her yet she never accepted her. So how come now she accepted her just because she took Ayaan's case back? Anyway, I didn't like her slapping Ayaan like that and shutting him up. Well, she's the same Vandy. Nothing has changed about her. First she wanted Maya to just shut up and be fine with everything what Ashwin did to her, judged her and made her bad, now she's doing the same with Ayaan. She could have explained to him nicely, but she wasn't ready to listen to him and this will just make him worse.


As for Saanjh, she like always disgusts me. Always faking her cries, fake innocent expressions, her whole fake victim act, and everything about her is fake and illogical to the core.


Felt bad for Maya. I hope she and Ayaan can become fine again, but looks like both of them are not in the mood at all. The precap was pathetic and disgusting. Most likely misleading. Anyway, this whole show is messed up. Everything is opposite of what it looks like. Here friendship means to kiss, putting lips into the married man's bared chest, buying love ballons, etc. So weird 😕😳 If I didn't have great friends, by now I would've been even disgusted with the word friendship seeing the show. Don't know why makers are portraying one sided friendship and unrequited love so pathetic and bad. This is not how friends are supposed to be. They are just insulting friendships. Feel bad for Maya :( She as always have to go through all this crap. I wouldn't wish such fate even on my enemy.
Edited by _Darling_ - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@aditi hope you remember I had told that Maya will have to go back to her Ganesha. And we know she went back. Coming to path first thing we need to know is that Maya has asked for an oppourtunity from Ganesha to show the truth of her love. She tells she will get Arjun through the truth of her love nothing else. I believe God exists. If someone had asked for that opportunity that opportunity will be given. Maya has to get that opportunity of her life time where she knows this is the opportunity Lord Ganesha has given her, to prove her love the right way. Maya tells learning make you wait for opportunity, experience snatches the opportunity. Maya is a woman who has known how to read opportunities doesnt matter how they are packaged. Will she also see that opportunity which Ganesha packages and sends her through Vandana. I feel it will come through Vandana as Ganesha came back to Maya's life through her. Path lies there on how that packaged opportunity is taken. We need to know Maya can do anything for Arjun, she will cross any limit for Arjun, will she cross the limit for Arjun the way Ganesha wants her to cross ? because only then he will come to her in right sense.
@sumz, darling I agree to you guys on Ayan. But you both need to understand one thing. What happened between Ayan and Maya is in grey zone and Ayan had done his share of actions to aggravate the issue. But I will give Ayan the same leeway I had given to Maya in season 1 and 2. Because we could see in many cases there were Maya's mistakes/crimes also but it was seen as the effect of other people's actions. For Ayan also his extreme reactions were because of what Arjun told, he was drunk. He tore her dress but yes key was inside it. So Ayan was the effect than the cause in that mess. Hence calling him victim. See in any crime/mistake in twilight zone, even the gravest mistake/crime has 2 sides mostly people keep the other party responsible for everything than doing any introspection themselves. Revenge stems from this mentality. If you introspect you will want justice only where you make introspection. Maya talks about her crimes/mistakes but she also justifies it as Ayan does it as once she too was a victim. Ayan will go in revenge mode. It is expected out of him. He has to. If he doesnt then that is not human nature, I cannot accept that. Let him fight, fight to expose Maya. He has to do that. Result may not be what he expects but I expect justice to be served because Maya's power Ganesha has come back.

@Darling coming to Arjun we need to know he wants everyone to accept his decisions. He doesnt want to be seen doing the bidding of a woman. It stems from his childhood where he feels vm trapped his father. To keep Maya in check he needs Saanjh. I guess I had put it in early analysis of the show while Maya wants to keep men in control because of her childhood. But having said that Saanjh can take a stand if she really wants. She can stop him from hugging her or get physical with her telling she doesnt feel ok abt it as she doesnt feel the same about him the way he feels about her. But then her mask of friendship will go. So she keeps on doing his bidding as it serves her illusion. And as you said Ayan has every right to take revenge as he feels victimized, but Saanjh bought most of the things onto herself and plays victim.

@tanvi I dont care what you think about my silence. You can assume whatever you want. I told what I had to tell. I dont have anything more to tell you. Your assumptions are your problem and not mine.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: _Darling_




Fully agree with whatever you said. I felt the same but I also felt bad for Ayaan and Maya. Ayaan is wrong. I don't like how he is still not realizing his own wrongs like other characters in the show and think only Maya is wrong. He should look into himself what he first did to Maya. He physically and sexually assaulted her yet claims he did nothing at all. At the same time though, I feel bad for him that he got rape attempt accusation on his head if he really wasn't going to rape her which the Cvs still haven't shown what Ayaan meant by those dialogues, etc then. Anyway, He still makes MUCH MORE sense to try taking revenge as at least he was wronged by Maya even though he was wrong too. I can tolerate him against Maya much better than Saanjh against Maya where Maya never even did any wrong to Saanjh. Just don't get why Saanjh hates Maya when she wasn't even wronged by Maya ever. The samay think happened later on after she herself tried to wreck her house and killed her child, but she's has been after Maya from S1 which is why I can never relate to Saanjh. Her whole character just doesn't make sense for me at all. Maya is the victim of Saanjh but instead Saanjh always acts like the victim which is SO STUPID AND ILLOGICAL.🥱


As for Vandana, I liked that she finally accepted Maya even though it's so unbelievable because even before Maya was always nice to her yet she never accepted her. So how come now she accepted her just because she took Ayaan's case back? Anyway, I didn't like her slapping Ayaan like that and shutting him up. Well, she's the same Vandy. Nothing has changed about her. First she wanted Maya to just shut up and be fine with everything what Ashwin did to her, judged her and made her bad, now she's doing the same with Ayaan. She could have explained to him nicely, but she wasn't ready to listen to him and this will just make him worse.


As for Saanjh, she like always disgusts me. Always faking her cries, fake innocent expressions, her whole fake victim act, and everything about her is fake and illogical to the core.


Felt bad for Maya. I hope she and Ayaan can become fine again, but looks like both of them are not in the mood at all. The precap was pathetic and disgusting. Most likely misleading. Anyway, this whole show is messed up. Everything is opposite of what it looks like. Here friendship means to kiss, putting lips into the married man's bared chest, buying love ballons, etc. So weird😕😳If I didn't have great friends, by now I would've been even disgusted with the word friendship seeing the show. Don't know why makers are portraying one sided friendship and unrequited love so pathetic and bad. This is not how friends are supposed to be. They are just insulting friendships. Feel bad for Maya :( She as always have to go through all this crap. I wouldn't wish such fate even on my enemy.


Just wanted to ask one simple question. Ok maya never did any wrong to saanjh.
But who killed prem and the reason for his death
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Posted: 7 years ago
Nice answer shruthiravi nobody asks u to care but when u innitiate a discussion u have to respond. N ways now what will u even answer!
If ayaan and saanjh go against maya u will say they are digging their own grave. U never supported vandana when she went to find proof against maya infact u blamed vandana for destroying the whatever goodness left in maya. U never applauded vandana who risked her life and went into maya s den. Today when vandana is accepting maya for maintaining peace and for the baby u still blame her. Vandana after seeing what every member has gone through due to maya s Obsession don't want any further destruction. She wants to retain what she has and maya is her opinion is genuinely making attempts to change for the better so she is supporting her. Isn't this hypocrisy! Vandana does anything she is always wrong.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@tanvismile I don't know if i can speak in between and Sorry for the interference. shruti is doing a great job and she is entitled to her opinions. agreeing or not agreeing is your choice. same way she is not toiling her opinions on anyone..Why can't we have a peaceful discussion instead of spoiling the thread which is made out of hardwork? People do have difference of opinion but there is no point in fighting for a fictional character. You opinion sounds more like you want justice for vandana than sharing your views. Sorry for being judgemental but i am stating the fact.The probability of looking into a situation or a circumstance or a person or a character differs from person to person. She has hers and you have yours..Moreover if she has initiated a discussion , its nowhere written nor did she promised that she has to answer everyone..

Now moving to the main discussion on vandana . for me vandana was a judgemental women always. From the beginning she judged the persons and their actions , she never ever tried to understand the person be it her son arjun , ayan , saanjh , maya. She always wanted saanjh as her bahu , when that didn't happen she cursed maya , never accepted her with whole heart and things became worse.

She knew saanjh loves arjun & being a good mother what she should have done? After arya's marriage she should have made attempts to make saanjh understand to stop thinking about arjun and move ahead in life but what she did was exactly opposite .. she supported saanjh in proving maya bad and mad which increased hopes for saanjh that she can get her arjun back who was never hers.

Arjun , she never understood his pov .when he lost his mother , vandana got married to his father , what sort of a pain a child was going through she never understood . she cribbed always that she gave love to arjun but he is having hatred towards her but never ever she made positive attempts to clear the mess she created. There is a difference between cribbing and attempting . At the later stage after arya's marriage , she always cursed his son by judging his actions and by not understanding him.

Ayan , now she is not supporting her son who was a victim in the hands of maya.

Vandana is only concerned only about her grandson / granddaughter. No mother in this world will ask her son to leave her mentally unstable / victimised bahu who is pregnant with a baby. She did. For me she is the most selfish , self oriented , judgemental species on earth.

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Posted: 7 years ago
@magicbell thank you for supporting me, but I would prefer no member to get into a fight with another member because of me or what I have put. Certain things are better off between two people. Atleast I as a person believes that.
@tanvi you can pass any comment on me, or on the points put by magic bell as her POV on Vandana but for God's sake request you to not make this thread into a war zone based on what magic bell has written in support of me. I usually dont repeat my mistakes, but it was my big mistake to reply to you yesterday. Forgive me for that.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@magicbell thank you for supporting me, but I would prefer no member to get into a fight with another member because of me or what I have put. Certain things are better off between two people. Atleast I as a person believes that.

@tanvi you can pass any comment on me, or on the points put by magic bell as her POV on Vandana but for God's sake request you to not make this thread into a war zone based on what magic bell has written in support of me. I usually dont repeat my mistakes, but it was my big mistake to reply to you yesterday. Forgive me for that.

@shruti i will take care dear😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
@charanyag, Samay killed Prem and the reasons were Samay, Maya and Saanjh.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@magicbell thank you for supporting me, but I would prefer no member to get into a fight with another member because of me or what I have put. Certain things are better off between two people. Atleast I as a person believes that.

@tanvi you can pass any comment on me, or on the points put by magic bell as her POV on Vandana but for God's sake request you to not make this thread into a war zone based on what magic bell has written in support of me. I usually dont repeat my mistakes, but it was my big mistake to reply to you yesterday. Forgive me for that.


O please I don't need ur sorry and I m not bekar to create a war zone. All I expected was an answer to my question that when vandana was supporting ayaan and fighting for justice u never appreciated vandana and today vandana is supporting maya and ayaan is out of jail. Maya has taken charges back u r blaming vandana for not supporting ayaan. Why? Such hypocrisy!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: _Darling_

@charanyag, Samay killed Prem and the reasons were Samay, Maya and Saanjh.

Thanks for your reply. I think I'm watching different show.
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