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Posted: 7 years ago
Guys didn't watch yesterday episode also on travel so most probably will post analysis Tuesday only.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Guys didn't watch yesterday episode also on travel so most probably will post analysis Tuesday only.



Waiting for your analysis, Shruti. I am finally fully back to the show too. Thank God, for S3. Was waiting for it for so long! I hope they maintain all happy Maya/ArYalicious episodes and do justice.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I am confused..does Arjun love Maya anymore? Or is only the baby holding him to her?
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16-6-2017 and 19-6-2017
Guys posting the analysis of both these episodes together as I watched them back to back today. I had loved Maya from beginning. For the reason that she is a fighter. She had fought to survive. I had many times felt if I could have got this girl in my hand I would have directed her to use her abilities and talents the right way. Because Maya has something which Dusky can never have. The ability to think, the ability to fight and the ability to stand up for her rights. She doesnt expect anyone to come and help her. She looks out for opportunity every moment to fight back. Her past had tried to kill her many times but she has fought, maybe not the right way but you cant tell she didnt fight. Who saved Maya. Maya herself. She makes the call to Arjun. Gives message in a coded format. When Rajiv shuts her mouth, she uses her legs and in the most vulnerable position she directs Arjun what to do and she cuts the rope to kill Rajiv. Yes the entire fight happened with Maya's direction, it is Maya who fought the battle to protect herself and in the process ended up helping Saanjh and Shubh also. Saanjh who got Arjun's call because of Maya, Maya decoded what Saanjh said, Maya told where Shubh can be while Dusky sat in the mandap and cried Arjun today is the test of your friendship crap. That's the difference between the both the girls and the gap can never be bridged. Because I believe the fighter in you is an innate quality which can be given direction, but even the best mentor/ teacher cannot bring that innate quality in a person. You can only polish a diamond so that it shine brighter, but how much ever you polish charcoal it will remain the same.

So Maya got herself admitted in the hospital. I loved that part. She didnt take Arjun's hand and chained herself. I dont want her to take Arjun's hand. She has to leave that crutch and listen to the direction of Ganesha if she wants a happy family. Actually Maya putting that chain around her ends the balloon funda, where Maya loses the ring, along with that she too is about to fall, Arjun pulls her and she hugs him. That time I had told she will get Arjun without control. Yesterday she tells I couldnt tie you with my love, but I can chain myself. The problem is there. Actually taking complete charge and taking no charge are disastrous. Chain means she is once again trying to be a adarsh bahu, maa as the template of adarsh bahu, maa demands. Same thing she did in season 1 post marriage. But when VM didnt accept her, she went back to her old ways. Once again she has tried to get cured. But when she sees Saanjh will the history repeat itself where she will go back or this time instead of Arjun, she will listen to the answer of Ganesha. This is the crucial question as far as Maya goes.

Coming to VM this woman is unpredicatable. On one hand she says dont go for Maya. How can you tell that Mata your hatred for Maya is fine, but what did the baby do for the father to leave it. Then she keeps Ganesha tells if the mother's love is true then the children will be protected. Really. She didnt allow Maya to do pooja in the temple, cursed her in temple. It was fun to see her bringing back Ganesha to Maya's house. Suman tells the house doesnt have God, how can happiness be there. Yes Maya sent the Ganesha, but who was the cause. It was Arjun who told Ganesha was a rock. Maya listened to him and send her Ganesha. When Ganesha came back instead of Arjun she fought her battle and she didnt take his hand. Arjun took the hand of his power Saanjh, and Maya took the hand of her power Ganesha.
Phase 1 ended with both of them sending their powers away and phase 2 ends with both of them returning to their power. Arjun's power walks back unsolicited and Maya's power come back when she cries in front of the empty place asking her to give a chance. Ayan is the medium for Arjun's power to wreak the havoc, Vandana will be the medium through which Maya's power will play the cards πŸ˜ƒ. I had told long back, Vandana coming to Maya's house is a good sign. πŸ˜ƒ. Time had tested both the girls. Ganesha coming for Maya through Vandana shows where the power stands in whole equation.
Now Vandana Mata is really happy. When Maya went to aslyum for 6 months she forgot everything because Maya is pregnant. So much for Mata and her judgements. Arjun's child make her forget her own son, who has languished in jail for a crime he didnt committ. I want this man to be back. Victim of Maya to be back to spice up things πŸ˜†πŸ˜†.

Arjun, I am not talking about this guy. Just understand that he is the photographer and he wants a perfect picture of the family. If people are not listening to him the right way, he will ensure they listen. That perfect picture is his goal and all his actions are towards that. Dusky is his friend, Maya is his wife. Both woman has their place in his life. But for that perfect picture certain things have to happen. Will come to that as season 3 unfolds. It was Arjun taking the right from Samay made me understand the arc of duffer's character.

Saanjh. You lost. What. Arjun didnt come back to you. When you thought you had Arjun Maya went to mental asylum and made Arjun come back to her πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. Now I want to laugh at her story of everyone thought chudayil is dead but she is still roaming blood thirsty. So Saanjh still considers Maya blood thirsty and her aim is still proving Maya bad and mad. Arjun the friend is with her, but that is not enough for her. Look at the way things have turned out to be. In season 1 Maya doesnt smile. Arjun brings cake and ballloon for her. Arjun gives her dress. Now Dusky doesnt smile. Time inflicted pain to her. She cant rejoice the balloon, cake or dress. Whereas Maya was thankful for that solo balloon with smilie through her window. She cherished the dress Arjun gave. Saanjh cannot enjoy because Arjun doesnt give her those things the way a man gives a woman. She is still in the world of Maya snatched Arjun from her. Does not even value the other finer things God has given her

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Posted: 7 years ago
@aditi wait for the sacrifice of the millennium. But dont laugh when you see the sacrifice πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. When season 2 started I had 2 story arcs in mind. One of course Saanjh showing the path which I had put in analysis, there was one more which I had not discussed in detail because I didnt wanted to be judgmental about Saanjh irrespective of negative vibes she gave me many times. Also many valid logical reasoning of her behavior given by Laska and many other so called Maya fans. But yesterday episode proved the story arc is moving not in saanjh showing the path. Will analyze in detail as episodes open up. Season 2 was expected to be messy and confusing, but you cant miss the arc, which hopefully I can connect in season 3. Also Maya changing it can only happen if she wants. I liked that she didnt take Arjun's hand to come down. She came down on her own. If she has to correct, she has to take steps and it applies to Saanjh also
@sumz Saanjh is responsible for her father's death I had predicted long back. her obsession for Arjun will make her lose her father.

@fragrance, jane yes Arjun is not lustful. Maya had some trust on Arjun, but I would say it broke the moment he said he came for baby and not for her. She realized he had not forgiven her and might not forgive her also. In a way she is better of in mental aslyum as this world doesnt understand her. She is better off in whites than those colors Arjun gave her. Because the colors gave her pain, in white atleast she was a victim.

@factfictionmyth does anyone needs more proof on Saanjh's obsession on Arjun with her dialogue I lost, chudayil has not died.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Welcome back Shruthiravi. Was missing your analyses since Friday. Lovely to go through your latest one.
Saanjh has neither grown up nor moved on. She is still wallowing in self pity.

Hope Maya does not take the wrong path now.
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Posted: 7 years ago
There is still not a single monologue which suggest that saanjh was doing all this to get arjun for herself. Her hating Maya, holding grudge I can agree, there are more than enough reason for that, but this really make her character too dark and they never confirmed this theory.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi wait for the sacrifice of the millennium. But dont laugh when you see the sacrifice πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. When season 2 started I had 2 story arcs in mind. One of course Saanjh showing the path which I had put in analysis, there was one more which I had not discussed in detail because I didnt wanted to be judgmental about Saanjh irrespective of negative vibes she gave me many times. Also many valid logical reasoning of her behavior given by Laska and many other so called Maya fans. But yesterday episode proved the story arc is moving not in saanjh showing the path. Will analyze in detail as episodes open up. Season 2 was expected to be messy and confusing, but you cant miss the arc, which hopefully I can connect in season 3. Also Maya changing it can only happen if she wants. I liked that she didnt take Arjun's hand to come down. She came down on her own. If she has to correct, she has to take steps and it applies to Saanjh also


Loved the powers coming back part in your analysis Shruthi di... I couldn't have seen that way. VM is superstitious so maybe she feels a mother can change for her child. Like u said this made her forget her own son who's falsely accused for something he didn't do. Also Ayan is one sane and consistent character in the show. He looked amazing yesterdayπŸ˜›

You always see through the hidden intricacies about hypocritical white characters, which can't see, maybe I will understand at the end... Looking forward to read your version of Saanjh πŸ˜‰


Yes I too feel Maya has really tried to redeem herself. Because if she was faking her treatment why will she spend 6 months in asylum, setting Arjun free?. This time she accepted her folly instead of blaming anyone, which I really liked abt her. 😊
But how long she continues to be good is a question mark.

On a lighter note, I hope they had used Arijit Singh's version of "Muskurane ki Wajah" πŸ˜†πŸ˜†
Edited by CutiepieAD - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
Love your analysis, Shruti. Agree with you except I am confused about Saanjh part.


Before Saanjh though, I want to talk about Maya first. I am SO SO glad Ganesh is back in to Maya's life, she went back to him. I knew that the only way Maya will go back to her God was if only Arjun's was in near death situation or if Arjun decides to leave her. Only in these two situations, Maya's mind, etc wouldn't work and she would need her God's help. I want to see now more of her scenes with Ganesha. Missing those scenes badly.

Another thing I am extremely confused about is WHY Arjun left Maya? She didn't even tell him the whole truth. I would've understood his decision of leaving her if Maya told him about Ayaan, etc or he found out himself everything. But here Maya just told that she knew Samay was her ex, and she genuinely thought Samay's meeting Saanjh wasn't coincidence. Later though, she realized it wasn't and Samay had instead come back for Maya, but Maya knowing that didn't tell anyone this and became greedy to let Samay marry Saanjh. But how does that make her a complete culprit? With or without Saanjh, Maya wouldn't have told about Samay to Arjun or anyone as she has been hiding him for years, and Arjun himself told he wasn't interested to know her past. . And, she obviously didn't expected Samay to turn out to be a killer or try killing Saanjh. She thought he would just marry her. He himself came to Saanjh and was stalking ArYa and Saanjh for years too, then planted himself into Saanjh's life to reach Maya. She didn't plant him in her life. So Why was Arjun SO DAMN angry at her just because she didn't tell him about Samay after she found out Samay wasn't with Saanjh for love but had come for Maya? I get it it was wrong for Maya to still tell Samay to marry her or not stop him from marrying Saanjh, but HOW is that a big reason for Arjun to leave her when he didn't leave her for other major reasons like Maya trying to shoot or she was scaring Vandana-Saanjh to shoot? Like I didn't get Arjun. Besides, when Maya found out Samay wanted to kill Saanjh, her baby, Arjun and kidnapped Shubh, then Maya did change her mind and hated Samay for it. She did try saving Sanjh and Shubh. So here I just don't get why Arjun was so damn angry to the point of leaving her and running to dusky especially when Maya tells him that he is been blackmailing him to sleep/rape last night, killing their baby, etc? So was dusky more important for him than Maya and his child's life? I was so disappointed at him. He can save dusky all he wants. But at least no matter how angry you are at the moment on Maya, show some concern that Samay was trying to rape your wife and kill your child too. But he didn't show no concern at all. Like WTH? IF not for Maya, then he didn't care about his child too and ran to dusky? I just couldn't get him.


Also, then we see Arjun telling Maya that go die but he just cares about his child. Like seriously? No matter how angry he's, how can he say that? I felt Extemely bad for Maya there. Maya was right in calling herself a BHOG on him. I don't know how she would forget that dialogue of him or may be she will as she's always just blind in love and completely blind towards Arjun's faults no matter what. I don't however think Arjun really meant that dialogue because even just before baby was announced, he saved Maya and took her to hospital even when he saw her shooting his mom and friend or she was just scaring them whatever. So just even before baby, Maya was extremely important for him. I can be wrong and may be he meant that, but seeing that he cared about Maya before baby too, I don't think he meant it. But still that statement from him was in such a bad taste. :(
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Posted: 7 years ago
@aditi the beauty was Ganesha coming after her request. It was perfectly in sync with my idea of God. Even the worst criminal ask for a chance God will give them to prove themselves. That is the difference between human and God. Ayan was shown yesterday. Guess YT version cut that part. Didn't see him.@darling to understand arjun I need a scene from where I can explain what he was doing with respect to mb.the moment I get that scene I expect I will go back to analyzing beyhadh with mb. Just understand that arjun is prem legacy not saanjh.
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