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shruthiravi thumbnail
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Posted: 7 years ago
#61
@Nithu Arjun has never analyzed the 2 parts. He has always taken decisions as it suit him. If he can leave his family one day, he can leave Maya also another day. Loyalty is not in his blood.
For anyone concerned Arjun knows Samay is Saanjh's fiancee, Maya doesnt. She doesnt know Samay will come. So to say she set up the rape. Arrey it was much easier for her to accept Samay who was giving her roses and want to genuinely love her. She didnt do it. Then how will she allow Ayan to touch and molest her. 🤢
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Posted: 7 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Laska

@sunithi, it matters to Maya. This is very important for Maya...

Yes, another important point is to raise a hand against a girl, I understand, in the blood Sharma's family? What upbringing Vandana, what upbringing! Applause. One Arjun wasn't enough
With a variable of two options - will it go with what it says or choose to get its goal. If he is silent, if he doesn't say what he saw, Maya's chances of defeat increase dramatically. But at the same time, the chances of winning for a variable increase
The path to the variable to the imaginary variable will open

Now I understood Ur variants..I feel he will choose the 2nd one..Then it gives more options to approach Maya..
I agree with Maya untied his rope to let him go as he desired that,now eagerly waiting for him to go.but Maya won't die,she will become new Maya...Nowdays her questions to Jhanvi and Arjun r so apt..She is correct asking him is he has given the rights of him to Ayan..No1 has answer for her question,she will make sure all r answering her questions..
Samay not sure how he will shape up in future but I can see him as dusky for maya..That's dangerous
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Posted: 7 years ago
#63
The solution to your analogy of complex problem is to find out an answer that is still eluding all of us.

That is, whose love is real/true & pure/selfless!
And no doubt, that love will be the ultimate winner when show ends!

Let us start with Maya!

Maya to Arjun -
No, it is obsession! Will it change anytime in future? Very little hope, as of now!
Arjun to Maya -Does he love her or her wealth? He is not very convincing! No!

Samay to Maya - Pagal pan! I don't think it is pure but very strong! could be dangerous too!
Maya to Samay - No hope or chance!

Samay to Saanjh
- Looks it is just business! His real target is Maya! Saanjh is a pawn in his game!
Saanjh to Samay - Very mechanical! Seems more like arranged marriage & no romance whatsoever

Arjun to Saanjh- Is it love? or just freaking out with her like he does with any girl!
Saanjh to Arjun
- Well so far, does not look great! Will it shape up? And look better to qualify! Wait & see!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#64
@shruthiravi, yes, Maya doesn't know about Samay, she could not know that he went after Ayan, she could not know that he would come
Maya always had problems with physical contact. First with Arjun, then with Saanj, with Samaya. It's just not in her nature to go for it. It goes against her nature. She belongs only to Arjun, and she doesn't give Arjun's right to anyone else
Invasion of private property - yes
Even just a physical attack (just a fight) does not go into the picture. What he could push or strike still somehow matches
But rape, attempted rape - it absolutely completely goes overboard
And one more moment, Maya seems first time say she loved! In the past time
And this can't be attributed to a misunderstanding, the search for keys or something like this, even when Dusky pushed off the stairs Maya it was impossible to write off, but now it's more serious, it's very much more serious

@sunithi, fork. If he goes one way, then there can be one development of the situation, if differently, then the other
It is necessary to see the further conversation Arjun and Maya. Here too, options are available
It is unlikely that the turning point will be now. But this point is also irrevocable. If Arjun does not believe, if he stays with her until Dusky saves Ayan, it will be a cruel and merciless murder
Edited by Laska - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#65
Ayaan's intention was never to just take his brother back home. He came to Maya's house with the intention of teach her a lesson, a lesson which will scar her for her entire life. He didn't know Arjun was drugged, abducted or tied up by Maya. As per him and everybody else Maya was injured and Arjun went with her on his own will. Still he said that he will teach her a lesson. That means his intention was to take revenge on Maya.
Yes, Maya is an expert manipulator, but no one in this entire world can predict the exact move of others. That's why to execute a plan the biggest conspirators will have a Plan B and sometimes even Plan C. Maya makes plans, she knows how to handle a situation but she fails at times and pays for it. She thought she'll make Vandana mad in front of everyone but gets humiliated in the process. She thought she'll separate Saanjh from Arjun but looses her unborn child in the process. She thought she'll keep Arjun with her always but looses his love in the process. She thought she'll separate Ayaan from Arjun but looses but faces attempted rape in the process.

Yes, Maya is bad, but she is a mirror, which shows all others their badness too. Maya will be loosing this case and she will be left alone. From there she'll fight and will get justice at the end. Justice to all her miseries and answers to all her questions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Laska Samay came in the twilight zone. Yes he saw Maya-Ayan is a very lousy position. But he didnt hear those dialogues, he didnt see Ayan tearing Maya's dress. Yes he saw Ayan on top of Maya. But is that enough. Cant Dusky twist it.

Everything is in twilight zone and I am sure Dusky will twist everything to suit Ayan. Dusky will achieve her mission of Maya being mad and bad. Because everything is in twilight zone, dusky's zone. But is it so.

It happens at night, night is Maya's zone, time is Maya's. So what is needed to bring time from dusky's zone to Maya's zone.

The chains, the ropes Jhanvi and Arjun. If time has to come to Maya's zone this woman Jhanvi has to speak up. Dawn has to speak to Sun. Maya can be saved only by Arjun via Jhanvi. The whole purpose of Samay is to make this happen.

Till he gets proofs or create proofs Maya will struggle, she will face almost death.


Arjun means white, Maya means black and Saanjh means twilight. Phase 1 was day time, the time for white. Maya gave Arjun his time in phase 1. She fulfilled all his desires. Phase 3 will be Maya's time and Arjun will be answer for all her questions. Arjun is needed for Maya to come out of all her insecurities and leave all her manipulations behind, only then she'll be able to live a happy life. But to go from Phase 1 to Phase 3 one needs to pass Phase 2. There is no shortcut to that. Before Phase 3 comes, Phase 2 has to come. And Saanjh is Phase 2. Very Symbolically Saanjh placed herself in between Arjun and Maya on the wedding day and changed Arjun's 7th vow to Maya to become Maya's vow to Arjun. Arjun is not loyal, Maya is. Arjun broke all his vows, but Maya will not break her vow herself. It will take a Saanjh to make Maya break the vow. To break the vow Saanjh has to come again in between Arjun and Maya. Twilight is the time when Day meets night. Arjun has to go through Saanjh to meet the real Maya, only then can Maya truly shine. Saanjh was the one to unite them in the marriage, but she didn't leave. Arjun didn't let her leave. If the twilight stays. Day and night can meet but they'll still be apart. They'll only be one when twilight goes. Saanjh will have to leave for Maya and Arjun to be truly one. This time Saanjh will separate Arjun and Maya. Maya will loose, but Maya's time will come.

Samay (the character) could have approached Maya directly. Saanjh was not needed for him to reach out to Maya, but he still chose Saanjh. For Maya's Samay (the time) to come Samay (the character) will have to make Saanjh go out of ArYa's life. Only then will Maya's Samay (the time) will truly come.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: Laska

I can say for sure that I don't like this
Rape, attempted rape is not a joke. You can't drag it into the plot, just for the sake of a suddenly turn. Such questions are simply not solved like this, with such ways just don't simply turn

Ayan's words can't be completely ignored, whatever one may say, but he simply didn't want to take Arjun away and just leave his intentions weren't limited to this. In a state of alcoholic intoxication much happens, including something that a person is not capable of in a sober state. To that example is Dusky and her dance with Arjun. Alcohol lowers self-control, removes inhibitions and sometimes disables the brain

Until now, how Maya was prescribed. She can manipulate, she can create situations. But she's not the Lord God, dammit, to calculate everything. In this situation, she could not calculate Samay. She doesn't know about his game, she doesn't know about his connection with Dusky. She could not predict his interference. Whatever her plan is, she is not a puppeteer to know exactly who, what and how will do

Maya can go to much to keep Arjun. On very much. But given her reaction to Samay. Playing rape is too much even for her. If CVs do this, it will kill her character

Even if we assume that this is Maya's plan. Dialogues Ayan doesn't cancel. The dress is torn - or Maya tore it up herself (then where are the cries of Are you mad? What are you doing?" And the like, and why, hell, Ayan just didn't go away?) A sign on her neck - Maya could not leave it, it's just It is impossible, she did not have time for this. In addition, such bruise are extremely difficult to forge, this is either there or not

And Ayan simply says that he did nothing. Tell me what happened. Why do you go from the answer? Why don't you say that you wanted to take Arjun? What was looking for the keys? What did Maya do all by herself? Why do you go out from the answer, the hell, and just repeat it as like a worn-out record "I didn't do anything"? You did! You came to her house! You demanded Arjun! You searched her house! You broke into Jhanvi's room! Has broken in fact! You pushed Maya! Grabbed her hair! You did, so what the devil are you going out from answer?

From one side Maya unties Arjun, so that he can save her. But again, for God's sake, she can't know for sure when he wakes up - she did not swallow the tablets so that there was enough time for washing the stomach, hanging takes only a few minutes, and further all, no salvation and return journeys, nothing
On the other hand, victims of sexual harassment try to commit suicide through one, if not each. And Maya is psychologically unstable. If she decided to commit suicide, then Arjun must be untied, so that he will not perish. Jhanvi can't, she just only pokes in this damn button. Jhanvi was opened earlier. Maya locked herself from inside

I need the next episode, but I don't like it, I don't like it at all... With any further turn I don't like it at all...

exactly laska i completely agree to each point u have mentioned..maya is not god to read every ones mind how can she expect that ayan will say those cheap dialogues..how can she expect that ayan will torn her clothes because till now she didn't have any bad opinions about ayan ...if we observe after holi incident while confessing to lord ganesha she herself felt bad for separation of ayan and arjun then how can she expect that ayan will fall this much low...this was beyond her expectations...she herself was shocked when ayan behaved this way...the way ayan was telling "i didn't do anything" to saanjh shows that how much innocent he is...this clearly shows he was not innocent in drug case...because even vandana was defending ayan the same way arjun did in drug case..saanjh was just doing her work as a lawyer...she was not even accusing him...in the suicide attempt also how can she expect that arjun will wake up at correct time to save her..the method she took to attempt suicide also plays an important role here...as u mentioned if she really wanted to fake then she should have been taken others method like taking sleeping pills, or consuming some poison etc...no suicide attempt it doesn't seems to be fake...if we observe from beginning she was very much sensitive to any outsider's touch..and one thing we should remember here is her extreme loyalty to arjun...when we observe her in restaurant scene with samay when he touches her hand while convincing her...the way she looked at samay and how immediately samay took his hands off from her shows she never allows other person to take the rights of arjun...no one can point finger at her when it comes to loyalty towards arjun...even i didn't like the way cv's are making use of rape attempt here...it's very sensitive and serious issue in our country...
Edited by siri456 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rendezvousvin


Arjun means white, Maya means black and Saanjh means twilight. Phase 1 was day time, the time for white. Maya gave Arjun his time in phase 1. She fulfilled all his desires. Phase 3 will be Maya's time and Arjun will be answer for all her questions. Arjun is needed for Maya to come out of all her insecurities and leave all her manipulations behind, only then she'll be able to live a happy life. But to go from Phase 1 to Phase 3 one needs to pass Phase 2. There is no shortcut to that. Before Phase 3 comes, Phase 2 has to come. And Saanjh is Phase 2. Very Symbolically Saanjh placed herself in between Arjun and Maya on the wedding day and changed Arjun's 7th vow to Maya to become Maya's vow to Arjun. Arjun is not loyal, Maya is. Arjun broke all his vows, but Maya will not break her vow herself. It will take a Saanjh to make Maya break the vow. To break the vow Saanjh has to come again in between Arjun and Maya. Twilight is the time when Day meets night. Arjun has to go through Saanjh to meet the real Maya, only then can Maya truly shine. Saanjh was the one to unite them in the marriage, but she didn't leave. Arjun didn't let her leave. If the twilight stays. Day and night can meet but they'll still be apart. They'll only be one when twilight goes. Saanjh will have to leave for Maya and Arjun to be truly one. This time Saanjh will separate Arjun and Maya. Maya will loose, but Maya's time will come.

Samay (the character) could have approached Maya directly. Saanjh was not needed for him to reach out to Maya, but he still chose Saanjh. For Maya's Samay (the time) to come Samay (the character) will have to make Saanjh go out of ArYa's life. Only then will Maya's Samay (the time) will truly come.

Both the post,loved reading each line of it..Saanj has to go,how she will go,how Arjun gonna answer the questions would be treat to watch..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rendezvousvin


Arjun means white, Maya means black and Saanjh means twilight. Phase 1 was day time, the time for white. Maya gave Arjun his time in phase 1. She fulfilled all his desires. Phase 3 will be Maya's time and Arjun will be answer for all her questions. Arjun is needed for Maya to come out of all her insecurities and leave all her manipulations behind, only then she'll be able to live a happy life. But to go from Phase 1 to Phase 3 one needs to pass Phase 2. There is no shortcut to that. Before Phase 3 comes, Phase 2 has to come. And Saanjh is Phase 2. Very Symbolically Saanjh placed herself in between Arjun and Maya on the wedding day and changed Arjun's 7th vow to Maya to become Maya's vow to Arjun. Arjun is not loyal, Maya is. Arjun broke all his vows, but Maya will not break her vow herself. It will take a Saanjh to make Maya break the vow. To break the vow Saanjh has to come again in between Arjun and Maya. Twilight is the time when Day meets night. Arjun has to go through Saanjh to meet the real Maya, only then can Maya truly shine. Saanjh was the one to unite them in the marriage, but she didn't leave. Arjun didn't let her leave. If the twilight stays. Day and night can meet but they'll still be apart. They'll only be one when twilight goes. Saanjh will have to leave for Maya and Arjun to be truly one. This time Saanjh will separate Arjun and Maya. Maya will loose, but Maya's time will come.

Samay (the character) could have approached Maya directly. Saanjh was not needed for him to reach out to Maya, but he still chose Saanjh. For Maya's Samay (the time) to come Samay (the character) will have to make Saanjh go out of ArYa's life. Only then will Maya's Samay (the time) will truly come.

@Bold The Twilight did leave(or more appropriately thrown out!) at the end of season 1 & was completely absent for three full years! But, white & black merged into each other, only to form grey! We are witnessing these grey shades of their married life, now in Season 2!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Laska yes Maya has problem with touch. She doesnt allow anyone to touch her. That's a quality about her. So she planning an attempted molestation is against her nature.
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