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Posted: 14 years ago
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OK, its just making me mad. I know motabhai has done a lot for jigar, but c'mon u cant expect ur son to give up his career for you. Motabhai doesn't want to keep a relation with jigar just cuz their choices are different. You can't emotionally blackmail kids. Next, so what if he likes rimjhim? I mean just cuz her father owns a bar, you can't say that the girl or her father are not good human beings. Jigar was right when he pointed the fact that babuji is an alcoholic. Still, people respect baa and all their kids. right? Finally, the worst part: how can motabhai demand a price for jigar's upbringing? It is every parents' duty. Basically, motabhai is wrong in every possible way I can think of as of now. Also, nobody is supporting jigar including baa. I just hate it😑😑😑

Plus, I hate the creatives cuz they always just show how parents love their kids. Nobody sees the fact that even children love and care for their parents. Jigar wanted to be an actor, but just cuz of his dad he became a doctor, but if its not his interest, why force him? Then, they say they care about their child's happiness. HOW? I HAVE NO IDEA. Can anybody explain?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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The reason Jigar is wrong is not because he wants to live his own life .. But because he said that he was going to buy his freedom from motabhai and the fact he thought one can put a price on sacrifices of one's parents ..Never did Motabhai once said that I am asking you to choose becuaseyou are going against my wishes but because he thought he can put a price on his father's sacrifice ..
Remeber untilnow,everyboidy was supporting Jigar becuase they believed that Jigar had a life to live his own ... but when Jigar turned around and asked his father to quote a price,everybody deserted Jigar ..
If jigar instead of rebelling ,wouldhave requested his father to let him marry rimjhim and be an actor, Reaction of Motabhai and everybody else wud have been different ..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'm sorry, but I don't agree. All Jigar said was that he wants freedom. He wants a career of his choice and he has chosen a girl to marry. Pay close attention to the dialogues. Remember, all Jigar said he wanted to live life his way. He asked for a price after Motabhai said, "Theek hai, to tu mujhe mere woh saal vapas de jin salo mein maine tujhe bada kiya." Basically, motabhai was asking for a price. I'm still in shock. How can a parent say that?

Recall season 1. Remember what happened when motabhai found out that he wanted to be an actor? Baa said tu apni padhai puri kar le uske baad dekhenge. Why? If subodh can become an actor why can't Jigar? Why is there such difference? Plus, he tried talking to everyone, but all they said was they will do something, but in reality did nothing. What a family? In fact, Jigar had the guts to go and tell his father, but everyone else including baa lied to motabhai. I may be thinking too practically, but I still support Jigar. Yes, I do agree the way he said those things was a bit rude, but whatever he said was true. Just my opinion. No offence to anybody.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree. Motabhai pushed Jigar into saying that he is willing to give anything for all the sacrifices that Motabhai has done for him. Yes, his words seemed too strong but he also got very emotional. Poor Jigar.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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All were stubborn. NO body wanted to listen to the other person. So hot headed and unnecessarily emotional. They are playing with the life of a young man. He may be wrong but the way Motabhai is behaving is not acceptable. πŸ˜•
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: eshi786

I'm sorry, but I don't agree. All Jigar said was that he wants freedom. He wants a career of his choice and he has chosen a girl to marry. Pay close attention to the dialogues. Remember, all Jigar said he wanted to live life his way. He asked for a price after Motabhai said, "Theek hai, to tu mujhe mere woh saal vapas de jin salo mein maine tujhe bada kiya." Basically, motabhai was asking for a price. I'm still in shock. How can a parent say that?

Recall season 1. Remember what happened when motabhai found out that he wanted to be an actor? Baa said tu apni padhai puri kar le uske baad dekhenge. Why? If subodh can become an actor why can't Jigar? Why is there such difference? Plus, he tried talking to everyone, but all they said was they will do something, but in reality did nothing. What a family? In fact, Jigar had the guts to go and tell his father, but everyone else including baa lied to motabhai. I may be thinking too practically, but I still support Jigar. Yes, I do agree the way he said those things was a bit rude, but whatever he said was true. Just my opinion. No offence to anybody.

I am not offended by your views at all .. I understand in his own way Jigar thinks he is correct ... but even if Motabhai said that return my years back ... he has a right to say this ... bcoz he has given up stuff for Jigar ...Jigar lost my vote when he revolted and asked Motabhai to quote a price on sacrifice parents do for children ... To be honest .. i dont remember the whole episode .. what I remember is Jigar's rudeness in insisting .. yesterday when I replied to your views .. I haven't seen the whole episode ... but what I saw in the end ... I am so much more convinced that Jigar is wrong ...
I dont think Motabhai is against Jigar's choice ..... if he was he would not have asked others to help Jigar ... I think Jigar should Try n understand where MotaBhai is coming from .. A child who was forced to grow up becuase his father was absent because of his profession ..how can he like that profession ...remember he probably never had a normal child hood ... I think all Jigar had to do was to request his father ... like rimjhim did to her Dad , like Kajol did in DDLJ and then if Motabhai would have said No ... i would have supported Jigar ... i.e the point they are trying to make ... that you dont buy your parents ... if you think you can buy then go ahead and be on your own... and live your life ..
thing is Life is living for those who live for you..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i think jigar is wrong. when he told motabhai that he liked rhimjhim motabhai didn't get angry or anything, he was just shocked when jigar asked for his freedom & life. motabhai never refused him anything, parents do soo much for their children, no matter what motabhai said, Jigar shouldn't have talked back like this. I'm 100% sure that if jigar had just asked motabhai, then he would have agreed to let them get married. he let Dimple marry anish (beer factory). and about the actor thingy, they raised that topic again before as well, and they agreed that after his studies they would let him do what he wants. so he wud have let him done acting too, i think. another problem was that jigar never went to motabhai himself, kept saying to mummy & kaka & everyone else, to talk to motabhai for him or he will, its his fault too, he shud have gone straight to motabhai. this was his decision for his life, and he shud have gone to motabhai not to every1 else instead. and jigar has been home for around 6 months from his doctor degree thingy, and he's sitting idle at home, that's why motabhai wanted him to open a dispensary & took loan for it too. parents can't see their children wasting their life away. this was also jigars fault by not doing anything, cuz he shud have gone to motabhai the day he completed his degree that now he wants to act.

i thought jigar was a good, nice character first, but bapuji summed it up perfectly. but the way he was talking back to motabhai at the end of the episode was just too much, i would never do that. motabhai was right that he went away for studying & really went away from them. jigar really went far with his statements & that worsened things up. maybe motabhai wud have sed no 5 times, but everyone would havetried to explain & eventually they would have agreed. i have to go right now, will say something else later.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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ok jigar is wrong,

yes, it is every parents duty to raise their child, and make sure their upbringing is 100%. But it is childs duty to stay in humanity, and maintain that respect of elder and younger. Way jigar was talking to everyone and how he snapped at Subodh, i would have slapped him right there.

Motabhai asked for price for all he did for jigar, but then how come jigar didn't tell motabhai it's ok dad, i am not asking for anything, i just want to pick a girl of my choice, instead jigar said, i'll pay whatever amount you ask me too. and whole family was trying to help him with the RhimJhim situation. and every parents have dream for their kids, to become something that they couldn't. so it was not wrong on motabhai's side to dream for Jigar.

Its funny how kids could never understand parents, but they expect parents to understand kids.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great points of view guys! I haven't had the chance to see it yet, so I will not comment according to it.
However, seeing how much Motabhai has done for his siblings and children, Jigar ka yeh bolna theek nahi tha. I mean Motabhai seems very hard and strick, but he is a softie at heart. Like my med prof says, parents really don't need to raise a child with giving them toys etc; the job is evolve the population. As estimated million dollars is spent by the parents on their kids; money that they could have invested somewhere. Unnki freedom ka kya?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Here is my take..Jigar is right and wrong, and so is Motabhai.

Jigar wants to do what he likes, and no do what MB wants him to, that is understandable...it is very much possible that kids dont wnat to become what parents would have dreamed them to have become..more than likely parents often impose their unfullfilled dreams on them. Which i think is not fair. So in that case..Jigar is right to want to do what he likes..but like Babuji had said, his way of asking was definitely wrong. What ever it be, he has no right to ask MB to say the price for his upbringing. That in itself puts him at a much lower level than anyone..for the simple reason that, you cannot put a price on parents sacrifice. Jigar should not have said that he wants his freedom at any cost.. No you earn the freedom, not buy it. Baa gave the freedom to her children to do what they wanted to because she believed they had earned it,given that they never asked for anything growing up in such poverty...I think Jigar was definitely wrong in his way of dealing with this..
Now to Mota bhai...he definitely has a very very fixed idea about things. Its either black or white, no middle ground. He did not even give Jigar a chance or an opportunity to find out if Jigar wanted to do what MB wanted him to do..that was wrong. Also MB has always been very stubborn on certain things..like gf etc..but i think thts a lil hypocrytical here...he never had such strong opinions when Dimple started liking Anisjkumar..he gave it a chance..similarly he should have given Jugar a chance too..he kept Jigar more in fear, than anything and thats why I think Jigar had the out burst (the way was wrong, not why). But MB is also right to make Jigar understand that going against family doesnt always work, unless you have established yourself...i think this point is very very true. If Jigar had the guts, and wanted his freedom that bad..he would have stood alone and fought for it..not want someone or the other in the family to be by his side...
Phew..that was quite an unloading ji... lets keep this discussion healthy...
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