When did Mahabharata happen - Page 3

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Gospel doesn't mean entire Bible. It only means message of Christ. Yeah, people use it to mean Bible, but it is inaccurate. And I assume the Jewish people would strongly object to their stories being called gospel.😆

Well one of the message of Christ is that He had come onto the earth not to give new messages, but to testify for and ensure the follow of the previous messages given to the people of book. So even if Gospel is only Christ messages, the entire Old Testament becomes a part of it in broader sense due to this statement

Anyhow I just said because this has been our indoctrination. There is no proof for Moses and Abraham either, we are sure that Adam is a myth, yet they are religious figures, while Arjun and Krishna are merely mythological figures.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Well one of the message of Christ is that He had come onto the earth not to give new messages, but to testify for and ensure the follow of the previous messages given to the people of book. So even if Gospel is only Christ messages, the entire Old Testament becomes a part of it in broader sense due to this statement

Anyhow I just said because this has been our indoctrination. There is no proof for Moses and Abraham either, we are sure that Adam is a myth, yet they are religious figures, while Arjun and Krishna are merely mythological figures.

There is one spot where Jesus says he came to uphold the law. Basically, the 10 commandments. He also says over and over that people have misinterpreted law for their own benefit. Otherwise, the message of Christ is gospel. The rest of Bible is not.

I'm only saying that's where the idiom comes from. The word gospel actually comes from Good Spel in Old English. ie, Good News.

Moses, Abraham etc are figures in 3 (4 if you consider Mormonism separate) religions. You're always going to find some who believe and some who don't. Same for Mahabharata. Not everyone in India thinks of Krishna, Arjun etc. as mythology. I happen to think they existed even though I don't believe Krishna was God. Christianity having happened later, there are a few written texts from the time. My fondest wish is someone discovering something like the Dead Sea Scrolls for Mahabharata.

Edited to add: someone told me I'm being obnoxious 😆. Sorry, that was not the intention. I'm like a dog with a bone. Psychologically unable to let go until I've chewed it to extinction.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Ramayana could have been a story considered to be true back then as well. They would have believed it more than us

Even today we use the words like yugas back Ram ji did so etc. is called upon in common discussion. Rishi Markenday might have told Yudhishtir the story which was known in the elite circles back then having seen Yudhishtir disheartened.

Yes this can be true but we can't ignore the physical presence of rishi durvasa and vishwamitra in both epics.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

There is one spot where Jesus says he came to uphold the law. Basically, the 10 commandments. He also says over and over that people have misinterpreted law for their own benefit. Otherwise, the message of Christ is gospel. The rest of Bible is not.

I'm only saying that's where the idiom comes from. The word gospel actually comes from Good Spel in Old English. ie, Good News.

Moses, Abraham etc are figures in 3 (4 if you consider Mormonism separate) religions. You're always going to find some who believe and some who don't. Same for Mahabharata. Not everyone in India thinks of Krishna, Arjun etc. as mythology. I happen to think they existed even though I don't believe Krishna was God. Christianity having happened later, there are a few written texts from the time. My fondest wish is someone discovering something like the Dead Sea Scrolls for Mahabharata.

Edited to add: someone told me I'm being obnoxious 😆. Sorry, that was not the intention. I'm like a dog with a bone. Psychologically unable to let go until I've chewed it to extinction.

Hey I didn't think you are being obnoxious. Coming to the comment

Ok so the 10 commandments-- we are to believe that not working on the seventh day is a 100% truth?? Seriously?? Most of the farmers, work 7 days a week. Many doctors during Pandemic need to work 7 days a week, but we are to believe they are wrong, if Gospel truth is 100%

Well its not about how people say, its about how things are referred to in literature throughout. They say something like"as per Christianity Abraham l PNMthe father of Isaac" but they would write "as per Hindu mythology" no one actually says as per Christian mythology.

P.S. Arjun and Krishna are part of three religions as well-- Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism, also the Ahmediya(Islamic) cult if that is considered a separate religion

Originally posted by: Horizon566

Yes this can be true but we can't ignore the physical presence of rishi durvasa and vishwamitra in both epics.

Even Parashuram ji is mentioned in both the epics, he actually plays an important role

But did anyone of them ever mention about their time in Ramayana??

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Even Parashuram ji is mentioned in both the epics, he actually plays an important role

But did anyone of them ever mention about their time in Ramayana??

No,they didn't talk of their time in ramayan period.So can't answer.

Originally posted by: Horizon566

No,they didn't talk of their time in ramayan period.So can't answer.

Then I guess that couldn't be a proof

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Hey I didn't think you are being obnoxious. Coming to the comment

Ok so the 10 commandments-- we are to believe that not working on the seventh day is a 100% truth?? Seriously?? Most of the farmers, work 7 days a week. Many doctors during Pandemic need to work 7 days a week, but we are to believe they are wrong, if Gospel truth is 100%

Well its not about how people say, its about how things are referred to in literature throughout. They say something like"as per Christianity Abraham l PNMthe father of Isaac" but they would write "as per Hindu mythology" no one actually says as per Christian mythology.

P.S. Arjun and Krishna are part of three religions as well-- Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism, also the Ahmediya(Islamic) cult if that is considered a separate religion

The 7th day thing in the commandments itself only says remember it and keep it holy. Actually, the gospel addresses this very thing and says keeping holy doesn't mean going nuts and refusing to let people live their lives. The example given is if one of you has a calf, and it falls in a ditch on sabbath, will you leave it there for the day?

I'm usually amazed at how much a lot of the gospel matches Krishna's philosophy. Krishna, IIRC, tells Arjuna, dharma was made for man, not man for dharma. Paraphrasing, of course, but you get the gist.

I get what you're saying about the mythology suffix attached to Hindu texts. I don't know that many Christians believe the stories to be literal truth, though.