Is AB setting a bad example?contin pg 3 - Page 2

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Sandia: I am not averse to the Mills & Boon genre myself. I am a very forgiving feminist thanks to being a die hard romantic. 😆 - me too i love mills and boon although havent read 1 in ab a year coz watching all these shows on tv

And yes, Maan and Geet did have that push and pull a lot but in a measure that I could tolerate without my inner feminist committing suicide. And then to balance it Maan always treated Geet with utmost respect and as an equal, which is why it is my favourite. I was actually referring more specifically to a show on Star Plus, I am sure you know the one, which takes the whole bitter, abusive, and therefore sexy male way past any semblance of proportion. - i think i kn which 1 u are talking ab it was totally pathetic watching. all i can say is that i totally loved the man that why i tortored myself but i have to say watching that show was an insult to me as a woman and as a human being. -that was just pathetic

Not to mention all those saas-bahu shows where the husband treats the wife like crap because his mother made him marry her. 🤢- hahaha if u talkin ab indians no3 show u kn he has changed he is getting better.

Anyway, point is that AB may not be perfect but the conceptualisation of things like love, romance, abuse and family is much more balanced than what I see elsewhere and so it is a refreshing change.- true it is more realistic and i have loved that ab it so far.

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Originally posted by: AngelDark

To educate in visual media is a difficult task.

I feel that there are three ways you can do it.

1. Make a comedy on the situation.

2. Make a fictional drama on the situation.

3. Make a documentary on it.

So AB's creatives need more creativity to show that it is not right to abuse women. I know some of my posts are dry but this is what I think at the moment and that I have gone off a tangent here.-very true and i hope they have the ability to do that coz they have started something and i hope they deal with it properly. bt the thing i am scared ab is that they dnt forget what they show and do another track.

So I'll end with this:

Suit the action to the word, the word to the action, with this
special observance, that you o'erstep not the modesty of nature:
for any thing so o'erdone is from the purpose of playing, whose
end, both at the first and now, was and is, to hold as 'twere the
mirror up to nature: to show virtue her feature, scorn her own
image, and the very age and body of the time his form and
pressure.

Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 17'24 Shakespeare

Originally posted by: ConnectTheDots.

Girls, some great discussion going on here. Take a bow everyone!👏

Alas I am too late to put forth any value adding comments but how i love being on the AB forum where we have such brilliant writers and exceptionally good analysts. I am happy that I came to this place and I cant seem to get enough of the discussions now😆

@ Sandiab, thanks for opening this topic and your brilliant post.

@Shridevi, Sam, Angel and UrshP, how beautifully you guys have put forth your views. I am so speechless.😳

Once again brilliant thread!

I seriously just love this show a slap can never just be a slap and can never just be right or wrong and the latest is actually the best for 2 reasons and neither relate to the fact that the recipient was that detestable girl. But rather coz there where so many things attached to it just like the other slaps and once again the issue of right and wrong doesn't really feature into it.

When I first watched it just like most fans on the forum I wasn't disappointed with his actions coz this slap could have been given by any1 who loves Krishna. It could have been her sisters, Ravi, her mom or even a stranger and it could have been given after they had gotten her of or if she had tried to attack Krishna again. But as a Pintu fan I would have preferred that when he raises his hand against any1 whether male or female as a last option and not the first and I so wanted that they had showed him slap her after she had tried to attack Krishna again. Than I started wondering what are they actually trying to show with him acting this way all the time and it can't just be ab impulsiveness and his lack of control. I don't see him as 1 of these men who feel that he is entitled to behave in this manner with woman and don't see him as a woman beater so what was the point and than it hit me its all ab control. I think most of us have heard that the reason women who have been in violent relationships stayed in it after every beating was coz he told me he didn't know what he was doing and continued coz he couldn't control himself. As soon as this thought came into my head I was so happy that they showed him slap her immediately coz his reaction afterwards was amazing coz even after slapping her so hard he still wanted to continue but stopped himself he was aware of what he had just done and what he would be doing and controlled himself. At that moment I just wished that every woman/ man( 1 know of 2 men who where and other still is in an abusive relationship) who is in a violent relationship and stayed coz the person said they couldn't control themselves watched this scene over and over again and I prayed they think ab their situation more objectively and not subjectively.

The second reason that I loved this scene in most shows whether its an Indian or an English most times when they show men pushing woman to the ground and they either walking away or standing above and this always unsettles me. I don't know if I am explaining it correctly but it somehow shows woman as being weak, powerless and men as strong, powerful and the 1 who has all the strength. So I really loved that when he had pushed her never mind the evil, resilient look in her eyes the fact that she wasn't on the ground somehow made her look even stronger.

Another thing I read all the discussions on whether his actions where right or wrong and most thought he was correct but some wondered what was the need for him to slap her if he could have just pushed her like he had done after he had slapped her. I couldn't help but remember a conversation I had with a friend ab the pushing and pulling roughly issue that happens in some relationships and whether this should also be included as violent behavior. Coz I think in some relationship the man will not necessarily hit a woman in a way that we recognize it as being abuse but rather he would push, pull, pinch and squeeze her roughly. And we can dispute it, it sounds silly to tell some1 that we left a person coz they where doing this but where there is an intention to hurt we should be careful and watchful that the person doesn't continue doing it coz they might not even realize that they are hurting us by doing this.

The slapping spree is not over yet and there might be 1 or a few more until Pintu realizes that violence is never an answer so I am very excited ab the next 1. Even though my eyes will be closed if its Krishna coz I have a bad feeling it will be her but this time I am not in a hurry 4 this issue to be dealt with. So really brilliant work by the writers of this show I wish we could have a proper, proper interview of these guys and ask them if they had intended some of the things we have interpreted coz it doesn't really look intentional.