The beginining of the End? - Page 2

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Originally posted by: S.Stephy

In a way, Avarmudan ended up being like that bull which needed to be sacrificed before Devsena could ascend the throne.

The whole thing really does go to show how these people are more concerned about blindly following some real strict laws without weighing them out.

Originally posted by: --BlackSheep--

In his book The Immortals Of Meluha,Amish Tripathi wrote about two different sets of ideologies.He said that when one ideology or system becomes stagnant,the other ideology takes over and revives the society.It is the law of nature.

Yesterday's episode showed a very brutal and inhuman side of the Dravidian system.I believe that the makers intend to show that inhumanity can creep inside any form of system.Be it patriarchy,matriarchy,monarchy or democracy.

And when inhumanity takes over the best remedy would be to remove the existing system of rules and replacing them with a new set of rules.

Really interesting discussion in this thread. It seems like they want to show that the Dravidian civilization of Sapta Sindhu, though advanced in many ways, also seems to have flaws. The society seems to have become stagnant in a way and misguided on a moral level (for example not seeing the value of compassion). Perhaps it is for this reason that the new rulers would bring a new "Aarambh".

The replies in the thread reminded me of a poem I had read in my school days.Googled to find that one.Its from a Tamil poetic collection and is basically about how a King should be and all.It is dated between 1st century BC and 5th century BC.

The drums have forgotten their drumming clay. The yals have forgotten their ragas.
The giant pots lie over on their sides and have forgotten how to hold the ghee.
His followers have forgotten the pure toddy around which the bees would gather.
The plowmen have forgotten how they used to raise an uproar and the villages
with their broad streets have forgotten how to carry out their festivals!
Just as on the great day when the moon has grown full and the two spheres
of light
stare one at the other and then one of them vanishes over the mountain out
into the empty evening, so in shame after taking a wound in the back,
although from a worthy opposing king who had thought to take aim
at his chest,
that ruler of imposing Martial Courage now is seated next to his sword. He has chosen
to sit on the ground, facing the north! And here by day,
when the sun is shining, time does not go by as the time of day once did before. (65)

Kalattalaiyar(Poet) on Ceraman Perun Ceralatan(King 1) when he fought with Colan Karikar Peruvalattan(King 2), was ashamed of a back wound (he suffered) and faced north (to starve himself to death).

Running away from a battlefield was considered very shameful...and so was getting a wound on the back as it implies that the person was running away.So here's a King who got a wound on his back,though the opponent didn't intend to hurt him on his back.Even after winning the battle, the King chose to kill himself abandoning his kingdom and people. Never been able to understand why such acts were encouraged those days .

I think its a classic example of 'society misguided on moral levels ' like dreamful said.

I took the poem translation from a paper
Credit-The Purananuru and the Tamil Concept of Valour Page- 25
http://www.indianstudies.net//V1/n3/v1n3s204.pdf

Sorry if it seems off-topic 😊

Originally posted by: NimJ

The replies in the thread reminded me of a poem I had read in my school days.Googled to find that one.Its from a Tamil poetic collection and is basically about how a King should be and all.It is dated between 1st century BC and 5th century BC.

The drums have forgotten their drumming clay. The yals have forgotten their ragas.
The giant pots lie over on their sides and have forgotten how to hold the ghee.
His followers have forgotten the pure toddy around which the bees would gather.
The plowmen have forgotten how they used to raise an uproar and the villages
with their broad streets have forgotten how to carry out their festivals!
Just as on the great day when the moon has grown full and the two spheres
of light
stare one at the other and then one of them vanishes over the mountain out
into the empty evening, so in shame after taking a wound in the back,
although from a worthy opposing king who had thought to take aim
at his chest,
that ruler of imposing Martial Courage now is seated next to his sword. He has chosen
to sit on the ground, facing the north! And here by day,
when the sun is shining, time does not go by as the time of day once did before. (65)

Kalattalaiyar(Poet) on Ceraman Perun Ceralatan(King 1) when he fought with Colan Karikar Peruvalattan(King 2), was ashamed of a back wound (he suffered) and faced north (to starve himself to death).

Running away from a battlefield was considered very shameful...and so was getting a wound on the back as it implies that the person was running away.So here's a King who got a wound on his back,though the opponent didn't intend to hurt him on his back.Even after winning the battle, the King chose to kill himself abandoning his kingdom and people. Never been able to understand why such acts were encouraged those days .

I think its a classic example of 'society misguided on moral levels ' like dreamful said.

I took the poem translation from a paper
Credit-The Purananuru and the Tamil Concept of Valour Page- 25
http://www.indianstudies.net//V1/n3/v1n3s204.pdf

Sorry if it seems off-topic 😊

Originally posted by: NimJ

Running away from a battlefield was considered very shameful...and so was getting a wound on the back as it implies that the person was running away.So here's a King who got a wound on his back,though the opponent didn't intend to hurt him on his back.Even after winning the battle, the King chose to kill himself abandoning his kingdom and people. Never been able to understand why such acts were encouraged those days . I think its a classic example of 'society misguided on moral levels ' like dreamful said.

@Rajatshweta Thanks for commenting.