In defense of EVIL Shlok. A controversial position.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I hope this serious topic does not get you down. It is very important that we discuss this even under the banner of a soap opera because the problem of abuse is not one to be taken lightly. I am pretty sure Shlok will turn out good in the end in all the cliched ways that we like to see it, but today I want to offer a defense of why it is right to show him as bad.

He is a product of his environment. Raised in a dysfunctional family where there is an abusive father. In real life, children are almost always aware and hypersensitive to abuse happening. Whether it happens with them or their parents, children live with that curse and it seeps very deeply into their personality. Abused children because abusive adults very often. It is not something to be taken lightly. Shlok is manipulative because his father is manipulative. He does not have to see his father directly being evil to morph into his father.

I am saying this today because I had the special privilege of meeting a very famous person today who survived an abusive father (beating mother). This person on the surface is very successful, but the pain I saw inside them today really touched me deep. This person had the goodness to get out of that situation and break off relations with the abusive father. But a father is a father and you always crave a good relationship. So did he/she. I saw the pain in him/her today. Inside they are still helpless. They never married probably because they are so burdened by their pain. It is not something people come out of easily, even with therapy. Seeing or sensing abuse hurts more than any relationship breakup or cheating spouse ever can. These kinds of kids want the lover to make up for all that they lost, they want unconditional love, the type they should have gotten from their parent. So that lover is put in a very difficult position of having a demanding, often needy lover. Astha will find herself in the tough position of being everything to him, friend, lover, mother, caretaker, etc.

When there is also a lost sibling, it is that much harder. Especially if things are compounded by gender preference in the house, as in the Agnihotri household where the sons are special. Imagine growing up as a daughter in such a house. You will turn out very deeply cut, deprived, low in self-esteem (like Swati). So maybe we should try and understand more where these Agnihotri kids are coming from rather than criticizing them. Because they were not all born evil, or manipulative or weak. They became this way. They are victims. Hurt victims who won't easily come out of their pasts. The CVs need to deal with this issue very sensitively. One bubbly Astha won't be enough to cheer them all up. Changing things from the roots (parents) is the hardest thing to do. Most therapists fail at it.

I am over analyzing the soap, I know. Intentionally. I am giving is a lot of credit for giving us a very sensitive issue. If they deal with it well, you will see why the Agnihotris are all sympathetic characters.

Varad: Tries desperately to please his parents by doing everything they might want. But does it matter? No. He is still the looser to Shlok. He can do everything right and lose in the sibling rivalry because he is not the favorite child. This is a deeply hurt character who cannot stop pleasing, even though he hates it. That's why he's so quiet. He suffers. He has made every sacrifice possible, including not marrying for love and living a life of bondage to please his parents. NA never even looks his way. It is Varad's goodness the he keeps a good relationship with Shlok because the human reaction is actually jealousy/resentment.

Shlok: Special child no matter how many things he does wrong. He is the favorite, the youngest, the most adored by both parents. He is as much a pawn for NA's plans as the rest but he does not know it. He worships his father and misunderstands his mother. While he doesn't know NA is the abuser, he does know Anjali as the abuser (or Swati and Pooja). The result is the same. He saw abuse. He delivers abuse to Astha because he doesn't know how else to express his feelings. There is no excuse for the slap he gave her, I am not making one either. I am just trying to see where he's coming from. Varad and Jyoti are unnaturally not jealous of him. Shlok is actually the most human of all his siblings because he does have resentments against his mother for example for putting away Pooja (really his father). Imagine that turmoil when he finds out the real abuser. His roots (parents) are rotten. How can you expect a healthy tree? I am not saying he's misogynist, but the chauvinist comes naturally to him because of his roots and bad experiences. He goes for what he wants, now it is Astha. He will eventually want Astha to make up for all the lost love and that's when it will get difficult because he will do little to deserve it.

Jyoti: Burden. The girl child to be rid of through marriage from this misogynistic family. She may be from a rich household but she is poor and with no options. She cannot leave the abusive family she probably never chose because she has no where to go. She was probably very ignored as a girl in the family. In real life, this would harbor real resentment but she is shown as kind for the soap's benefit.

Pooja: Such a burden that she was put away. Need I say more?


What do you think? Have you never seen these kinds of family biases?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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😃 Touching Really 😃
😃 😃 😃
😃 😃 😃 A Different Kind Of Abusive From The One I Experienced 😃 After The Death Of Towering, Great Man, Personality And Father 😃 The Mother And Siblings Abused That Physically Challenged Person 😃 Cannot Say Anything More, Gotta Fight It Out 😃
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 I Do Wish Things Get Better For The Ones Mentioned By You 😃 😃 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼
😃 Regards Shlok ; Guess You Are Cent Percent Right 😃 But Always Scope For A Change For The Better 😃 Rest Yes, I Do Agree With Your Points


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I also do know a guy like Shlok...Whateva u r saying is right...Great post Mary :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree to your points. Environment has direct effect on a child. I think considering how NA is, its Anjali's will and her continuous struggle that has made her children even a tiny bit normal.

Shlok, he was hurt badly by women (his mother and lover) and he is so scared of ever feeling that way again or ever be that vulnerable . He likes astha but the only way he can show is through pain, abuse, revenge because that's what is left. It will take him a lot of time to be normal again and only if astha accept this broken man first.

I agree about varad, and jyoti
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very good thoughtful post

Will come back and comment later
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Posted: 12 years ago
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yeah being brought up in the agnihotari family doesn't exactly make u "good" and "normal"
and when u have parents like anjalin niranjan u are bound to be different
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Marybarton
I just love your post.
totally agree to every point you said.
Living in this kind of environment you can't expect the person to not be influenced by what is going around him/her. I can see the reason for Shlok's anger and emotionless heart is the result of the environment he has been raised in. He hasn't seen the affection and love from neither his mother or father. He father obviously doesn't love only himself and uses Shlok for his own benefit. So basically he doesn't receive love from anyone. The thought of thinking no one loves you is enough of making a person so emotionless and violent towards others. This is the reason why Shlok was attracted to the innocence of Aastha. It was new too him and he didn't expect someone to be this innocent. He might not love Aastha as of now but he can't help but get attracted to her.
As in example I'm not close to my dad and I can't help but wonder and adore the great relationship some people have with their fathers.
So it's very true the environment you live in definitely has it's effects on the way you think and behave.
Edited by MalikaRose - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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forgot to add one more thing
Shlok is a victim of the Agnihotri environment so I hope Cvs will show him getting treated instead of trying to turn him into a black character.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mary, great analysis of shlok. I have to agree that it is not surprising the way shlok's character has turned out considering the environment he has been brought up in,. At the same time, it seems to me that he has not seen NAs true colors and is oblivious to the abuse that goes on in his house, It seems that shlok was a normal person until the swati episode and subsequent hatred for Anjali happened, I don't think he is misogynistic , it's just that he is a control freak and hates not being on control of his life ( like in swatis case). Ofcourse for him Asthas innocence and free spirit was a refreshing change and hence the attraction, but his anger towards her stems from the fact that she put him in situations that he could not control. So marrying Astha gives him a sense of control besides revenge.
I do have a close family member that is a bigger MCP than NA and his son has turned out to be wonderful inspite of being witness to his dad emotionally abusing his mom. he loves his dad and does respect him a lot but does understand that that aspect of his life was not right.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MalikaRose

Marybarton

I just love your post.
totally agree to every point you said.
Living in this kind of environment you can't expect the person to not be influenced by what is going around him/her. I can see the reason for Shlok's anger and emotionless heart is the result of the environment he has been raised in. He hasn't seen the affection and love from neither his mother or father. He father obviously doesn't love only himself and uses Shlok for his own benefit. So basically he doesn't receive love from anyone. The thought of thinking no one loves you is enough of making a person so emotionless and violent towards others. This is the reason why Shlok was attracted to the innocence of Aastha. It was new too him and he didn't expect someone to be this innocent. He might not love Aastha as of now but he can't help but get attracted to her.
As in example I'm not close to my dad and I can't help but wonder and adore the great relationship some people have with their fathers.
So it's very true the environment you live in definitely has it's effects on the way you think and behave.


Nice post , Dua. Could not answer your question in the other post cause it got closed. All I am going to say is that, for shlok the anticipation of getting together with Astha the first time will probably be more exciting than craving for it once he has experienced it, 😆

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