The Anglophiliac Inmates of BB7 & beyond - SHAMEFUL BULLIES! - Page 9

Originally posted by: Marybarton

Good post. A few points I would like to note.

I saw a superiority complex that was not overt in the people's treatment of him. They avoided him and acted superior (Pritiusha dismissed his opinion, good Salman spoke up) when they are clearly far down the career ladder from him. You don't have to say anti-national things for an audience to pick up on that.

Shipa faced racism, true. Asif did not, that's why I DID NOT say it was racism. They are of the same race. He faced language bullying and derogatory treatment on the basis of his nationality. It is because of his country different that he is bad in Hindi, right? That's what makes it offensive to Bangladeshis. Let's face it, he stood out to us and Bangladeshis for being the first Bangladeshi on the show. That's why the label comes up.

Why should Salman not count? He was so patiently making her repeat in Hindi. If he tried the same with Asif who also does not know Hindi, that would have been fair. Same treatment of different foreigners. Otherwise, it is just preference? No, what did he do? When Asif sang badly, he rolled around on the floor. When Asif spoke outside, he crawled. Do you see what I am getting at? It's immature no matter how many time or with whom he does it. The only time he redeemed himself is when he spoke against Pritiusha. At the very end, Salman sobered up to be who he really is - a good person. Of all the people, it is appalling that his treatment stands out as the nicest still.

Originally posted by: poorvab

u compared asif to shilpa shetty in big brother and yet ur saying now u didnt mean to say it was racism. then why bring in the nationality factor?

ur defending Bangladesh n saying its a good country. of course it is and noone has said its not.

so, i genuinely do not understand the point in mentioning this in ur post if ur not implying racism against asif.

i honestly do not want to create any fight and i respect ur POV and i'm just stating mine.

Originally posted by: riti4u

@underlined- I dont think it was due to his nationality. His hindi is bad..but then that can be with other indian inmates too ...Indians down south or even some bengalis may find trouble in speaking hindi too.. Yes these people were wrong in making fun of Asif's hindi ...but as I said above - similar case could have happened to Elli too... remember once Kamya said something which made her cry..kamya was also imitating her... it could have happened to some other inmate too..well they make fun of sangram too who is not that good in english... whenever he sings english song...this was mockery indeed...but it was surely not based on his different origin or nationality...

Originally posted by: poorvab

ur defending Bangladesh n saying its a good country. of course it is and noone has said its not.

so, i genuinely do not understand the point in mentioning this in ur post if ur not implying racism against asif.

i honestly do not want to create any fight and i respect ur POV and i'm just stating mine.

Originally posted by: silverbug

lol that's what i have been trying to get at since page 1.

anyone who looks at post 1 objectively will see that an attempt was made to stroke nationalism. the reason i say its vicious is because her entire premise that asif was discriminated against because of the india vs bangladesh / "lesser country" thing. she is bigging up bangladesh which is all well and good but the what are you trying to prove ? housemates never invoked an india vs bangladesh issue so your point is MOOT. then the OP goes around liking a bunch of posts that say it is racism, or suggest that there was bullying based on nationality/creed.

it is also funny how she thinks i am a nationalist/prejudiced when she goes around liking posts like this that are steeped in nationalism:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/94895839

People are passing off a lie, an unfounded claim as a fact and castigating india/indians day in and day out on this forum so why shouldn't I react to it ?

Originally posted by: silverbug

lol that's what i have been trying to get at since page 1.

anyone who looks at post 1 objectively will see that an attempt was made to stroke nationalism. the reason i say its vicious is because her entire premise that asif was discriminated against because of the india vs bangladesh / "lesser country" thing. she is bigging up bangladesh which is all well and good but the what are you trying to prove ? housemates never invoked an india vs bangladesh issue so your point is MOOT. then the OP goes around liking a bunch of posts that say it is racism, or suggest that there was bullying based on nationality/creed.

it is also funny how she thinks i am a nationalist/prejudiced when she goes around liking posts like this that are steeped in nationalism:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/94895839

People are passing off a lie, an unfounded claim as a fact and castigating india/indians day in and day out on this forum so why shouldn't I react to it ?

Originally posted by: Marybarton

Good post. A few points I would like to note.

I saw a superiority complex that was not overt in the people's treatment of him. They avoided him and acted superior (Pritiusha dismissed his opinion, good Salman spoke up) when they are clearly far down the career ladder from him. You don't have to say anti-national things for an audience to pick up on that.

Shipa faced racism, true. Asif did not, that's why I DID NOT say it was racism. They are of the same race. He faced language bullying and derogatory treatment on the basis of his nationality. It is because of his country different that he is bad in Hindi, right? That's what makes it offensive to Bangladeshis. Let's face it, he stood out to us and Bangladeshis for being the first Bangladeshi on the show. That's why the label comes up.

Why should Salman not count? He was so patiently making her repeat in Hindi. If he tried the same with Asif who also does not know Hindi, that would have been fair. Same treatment of different foreigners. Otherwise, it is just preference? No, what did he do? When Asif sang badly, he rolled around on the floor. When Asif spoke outside, he crawled. Do you see what I am getting at? It's immature no matter how many time or with whom he does it. The only time he redeemed himself is when he spoke against Pritiusha. At the very end, Salman sobered up to be who he really is - a good person. Of all the people, it is appalling that his treatment stands out as the nicest still.

Originally posted by: silverbug

Racism/discrimination/ethnocentrism/whatever you want to call it dude. I did not use the perfect choice of words. Those terms aren't really all that different in the context we are talking about anyway.Baal ki khaal maat nikalo. Even though it is a bit funny how on one had she says that she is not implying this racism allegation but then she has liked a bunch of posts in this thread that say it was racism (case in point DarkestMysstery's post on the 2nd page)

Regardless, the whole premise of OP's argument is that Asif's mistreatment was a case of discrimination based on Asif's nationality and how they have this whole attitude going , which is apparently very prevalent in TV/Bollywood , that he comes from a 'lesser country'. What I'm saying is that this claim that Asif was mistreated based on his nationality is utter bullshit and based on nothing more than hearsay and assumptions.

I'm not 'hyper offended' over anything. I wouldn't be giving you the incidences of racism in India if I was offended by the racism in India. I'm just expressing my disapproval over the false statements that OP has made.