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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kools, I beg to differ what you wrote :). That is fun part of being in a forum to discuss. I hold Anandi, Jagya, Shiv, Shekars, Singh's all responsible for this mess. Only Mannu, Nandu and Bhairavi are innocent little babies/kids. Rest all are hypocrites.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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cannot put the blame on one person. Everyone is equally responsible for this mess.
Except Sanchi ... she is the root cause.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: redapple1

Kools, I beg to differ what you wrote :). That is fun part of being in a forum to discuss. I hold Anandi, Jagya, Shiv, Shekars, Singh's all responsible for this mess. Only Mannu, Nandu and Bhairavi are innocent little babies/kids. Rest all are hypocrites.


😆😆😆 ok
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sheetsden

Where did her righteousness go when she pleaded shiv to marry her. He said its not good to marry this way but she was hell bent on fulfilling her mother's wish. Shiv blind in love or call confidence that she will love him later married her. They both love each other now. Only good advice to anandi is keep away from saanchi and Ira. Just be happy with shiv and do her NGO work. Don't try to become great bahu and solver of all family matters. Ansh were never peaceful in jeytsar or udaipur. Jeytsar DS would bother her married life and here saanchi Ira. Both should be stern to family members to not drag them or they should go to a different city.

i agree with you...don't know why she always tries so hard to win useless people when she is better off without them also...i think it's useless to win saanchi's heart...anandi should now live for herself and stop being so good bahu...something it's better to twist your fingers when you cannot get the ghee of a pot
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Yeah she is responsible . Actually for the whole mess .


What she needs to learn

1] How to use cell phone

2] How to have marital relations with husband

3] How to be responsible to families .


Cell phone is NOT an ornament . It is not to be used for love talks and random chit chat with maika only . It is with u all the time and it is very much supposed to be used in emergencies .

She should have used the cell to intimate Dadisa quietly that the Shekhars were coming to her doorstep with a rishta , that her nanand was thoroughly unsuitable for them and that her position was very delicate so it would be best if the refusal came from THEM .

She should have used the cell to tell Dadisa that the muhuraths were fixed . By the girl THEY had selected as the BEST for their son . Dadisa had asked her this on the cell , a return call was a MUST .

She should have used the cell immediately after her talk with the pundit and told Shiv about it all and asked him what to do further . By putting onus on him as it was HIS family . Shiv never ignores her calls or her talks however busy he is .

Marital relations with husbands r not just romance galore . Bedroom is a sanctum for married couples to share and bond much more beyond romance and sex . Couples relax there , swap day to day happenings , talk . Little unimportant details r exchanged , important details r thrashed out . Anandi never used this space for these things . She could have told Shiv so many things . About her fears about the rishta . About Saanchi's behaviour at her maika . About her knowledge of something brewing between Jagya Ganga . About Saanchi's view of moulding the man according to her tastes but acting as if she was moulding herself for him . About the pundit bribery . About the first overheard conversation . About the latest phone call with Jagya that discosed that he was in Mangalore and a rape attempt was made on Ganga and that he had gone there to help her and was bringing her home .

Anandi does not know the first thing of SHARING with a husband , of TALKING with a husband .

She also does not know responsible family loyalty . The loyalty that she defines is lop sided and sitting on dirty secrets and protecting a family member . No . One has to know how to firmly manage BOTH the families . The Singhs brought her up , spent for her and her marraige and re settled her . Went against own blood for her . They deserve to know if the girl is unsuitable as THEIR life is on the line . The Sasural SHOULD know if their girl is doing dirty deeds .

She also does not know PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ... a value very individual but a must in character building . Jagya stood in the marraige market for her sake . Due to HER advice . It was mandatory she had a private talk with him about her fears that the rishta going his way was unsuitable . Again , she did not use the cell to apprise him of this fact . Jagya too does not ignore her talks .

This whole mess ...created by one thing leading to another snowballed into what it became eventually bcoz of her famous silences .

She will pay for her inept handling of the situation and protecting a snake . I don't feel sorry for her coz she looked out for her happiness via her sasural's happiness and was ok with the fact that the Singhs may suffer badly for life if this experiment went wrong . She was ok if Jagya suffered a third time ...he had trusted her blindly in this matter . All that mattered to her was keeping nanand and saas happy so she could be happy in her marital life . So she gave saas the right answers always ...the answers that put her in a happy mood . I will groom your daughter . Your daughter has really changed for the better .

When in reality she had observed a lot .

She should have stayed away from it all the moment the rishta was taken without including her in the discussion . Getting this involved in it after such an insult was devaluing herself .

She devalued Shiv too when Sanchi decared it was ok if he was not in the engagement and she took no offence as an elder bhabhi but smiled .

She does not know how marital life is conducted ...there r many aspects to it . Loyalty to ur first family , surviving in ur sasural , protecting husband's honor , showing your own indivduality not by feminist tantrums but quiet dignity .

I don't feel sorry for her as she invited it all ...i lost sympathy for her the night she fired Jagya and later on trod on eggshells around Saanchi but as a woman my blood will boil at her domestic abuse at her new sasural with saas and nanand flogging her and husband looking mutely on .

wow...so perfect...anandi really needs how to handle her married life and shape it according to her husband's personality...i would have still excused her for not sharing anything had she been jagya's wife (meant old jagya) because he was immature but what now...she should have included at least someone in her doubts and made sure other than her someone is also there to keep an eye on saanchi...anandi needs to stop looking at everyone form positive eyes...it's good to see positive side of everything but you should never ignore the negative sides also...to be honest after anandi's marriage with shiv i have hardly felt sorry for this girl...she makes every simple so dramatic...today anandi's poor handling of situations shows that she was never a good when it comes to married life...she just knows how to solve social issues but has long way to go become a good balanced woman...had anandi been stern and bit authoritative in her approach with saanchi she would not have got insulted or pushed by her like this...anandi needs to know that with responsibilities comes power also...if she has a responsibility of being badi bahu then she also has some power on saanchi
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Posted: 12 years ago
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very good post.
the main thing comes down to the fact that anandi doesnt communicate properly with anyone!

i dont understand why the singhs and anandi behave like they are in a centuries old era.

they only call and talk on the phone once in a while. when everyone has their personal cell phones. she can anytime call someone n confide in them. she can tell bhairon or DS anytime her doubts her thoughts etc.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Yeah she is responsible . Actually for the whole mess .


What she needs to learn

1] How to use cell phone

2] How to have marital relations with husband

3] How to be responsible to families .


Cell phone is NOT an ornament . It is not to be used for love talks and random chit chat with maika only . It is with u all the time and it is very much supposed to be used in emergencies .

She should have used the cell to intimate Dadisa quietly that the Shekhars were coming to her doorstep with a rishta , that her nanand was thoroughly unsuitable for them and that her position was very delicate so it would be best if the refusal came from THEM .

She should have used the cell to tell Dadisa that the muhuraths were fixed . By the girl THEY had selected as the BEST for their son . Dadisa had asked her this on the cell , a return call was a MUST .

She should have used the cell immediately after her talk with the pundit and told Shiv about it all and asked him what to do further . By putting onus on him as it was HIS family . Shiv never ignores her calls or her talks however busy he is .

Marital relations with husbands r not just romance galore . Bedroom is a sanctum for married couples to share and bond much more beyond romance and sex . Couples relax there , swap day to day happenings , talk . Little unimportant details r exchanged , important details r thrashed out . Anandi never used this space for these things . She could have told Shiv so many things . About her fears about the rishta . About Saanchi's behaviour at her maika . About her knowledge of something brewing between Jagya Ganga . About Saanchi's view of moulding the man according to her tastes but acting as if she was moulding herself for him . About the pundit bribery . About the first overheard conversation . About the latest phone call with Jagya that discosed that he was in Mangalore and a rape attempt was made on Ganga and that he had gone there to help her and was bringing her home .

Anandi does not know the first thing of SHARING with a husband , of TALKING with a husband .

She also does not know responsible family loyalty . The loyalty that she defines is lop sided and sitting on dirty secrets and protecting a family member . No . One has to know how to firmly manage BOTH the families . The Singhs brought her up , spent for her and her marraige and re settled her . Went against own blood for her . They deserve to know if the girl is unsuitable as THEIR life is on the line . The Sasural SHOULD know if their girl is doing dirty deeds .

She also does not know PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ... a value very individual but a must in character building . Jagya stood in the marraige market for her sake . Due to HER advice . It was mandatory she had a private talk with him about her fears that the rishta going his way was unsuitable . Again , she did not use the cell to apprise him of this fact . Jagya too does not ignore her talks .

This whole mess ...created by one thing leading to another snowballed into what it became eventually bcoz of her famous silences .

She will pay for her inept handling of the situation and protecting a snake . I don't feel sorry for her coz she looked out for her happiness via her sasural's happiness and was ok with the fact that the Singhs may suffer badly for life if this experiment went wrong . She was ok if Jagya suffered a third time ...he had trusted her blindly in this matter . All that mattered to her was keeping nanand and saas happy so she could be happy in her marital life . So she gave saas the right answers always ...the answers that put her in a happy mood . I will groom your daughter . Your daughter has really changed for the better .

When in reality she had observed a lot .

She should have stayed away from it all the moment the rishta was taken without including her in the discussion . Getting this involved in it after such an insult was devaluing herself .

She devalued Shiv too when Sanchi decared it was ok if he was not in the engagement and she took no offence as an elder bhabhi but smiled .

She does not know how marital life is conducted ...there r many aspects to it . Loyalty to ur first family , surviving in ur sasural , protecting husband's honor , showing your own indivduality not by feminist tantrums but quiet dignity .

I don't feel sorry for her as she invited it all ...i lost sympathy for her the night she fired Jagya and later on trod on eggshells around Saanchi but as a woman my blood will boil at her domestic abuse at her new sasural with saas and nanand flogging her and husband looking mutely on .


i wouldnt go to the extent of saying she's responsible for it all but yes all ur points r completely valid n she does hold an integral role in all this by her mis-actions.

in fact i feel even sumitra is a better wife to bhairon than anandi to shiv. we have seen over the years how sumitra and bhairon share things with each other in their room n take each others advice. but anandi always fails to tell shiv important thngs.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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in fact i feel even sumitra is a better wife to bhairon than anandi to shiv. we have seen over the years how sumitra and bhairon share things with each other in their room n take each others advice. but anandi always fails to tell shiv important thngs.

very well said
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

in fact i feel even sumitra is a better wife to bhairon than anandi to shiv. we have seen over the years how sumitra and bhairon share things with each other in their room n take each others advice. but anandi always fails to tell shiv important thngs.

very well said

I agree with this. Shiv gives enough space and freedom to share everything with her. She was more open and honest to shiv pre wedding than post wedding. During the most difficult phase of her life when jagya returned from Mumbai she used to share everything with shiv before wedding and now keeps silence post wedding.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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How could Anandi alone have prevented this mess when in fact everybody is responsible for this?
Shanchi - the root cause

Sanchi's parents - who did not know how to control their daughter and did not ensure that she tread on the right path when she was a child.Their way of controlling their child is giving in to her idiotic demands.They went to Singhs with the marriage proposal and hoped that they turn down the proposal.Now which parent goes with a marriage proposal wanting it turned down?
If they wanted it that way they should have informed Singhs before hand that they are coming with a proposal because of Sanchi's demand and they would be grateful if they turn down the proposal.

Singhs-Bhairon and Basant were rightly against this proposal but they were made to shut up be illogical assumptions of Sumi.She assumed that just because Anandi had come along with her family she approves of that proposal and further more she used her welfare in her in laws place as a card and shut up everybody.Why will Anandi not accompany her in laws for the birthday celebration of Singh beta?Why did they not want to talk with her before deciding on the proposal?Why did they have to assume that it is okay with her?Why didn't Bhairon and Basant insist on speaking with A first?

Jagya - He has been blackmailed by his mother and grandmother but what prevented him for askig for more time and made sure that he had a talk with Anandi before he said yes.Since he wanted Anandi's hand in selection of bride for him he should have made sure that he got clear indications from her instead of just assuming that she was the one who brought the proposal for him.

Anandi - She was against this proposal right from the begining.She was concerned about Sanchi and broached this topic with Shiv.He did not believe that his sister has fallen for Jagya.But then Sanchi declared in front of everybody that she indded was in love with Jagya.Then she did her best to convince Sanchi that it was a bad idea along with the rest of the family.But is it her fault that the family decided pursue this matter without taking her opinion into consideration?
People say that she should have picked up the phone adn informed Singhs that marriage proposal from Shekhars is coming their way.How would that change the scenario?Is she supposed to tell them not to accept it?Doesn't it mean dictating to Singhs on what they should and shouldn't do regarding their son's marriage?Did she not bring this up with her family after the proposal was accepted ?

Sanchi then started to display changed behaviour and convinced everybody including her parents and grand father.If they are convinced that Sanchi is changing who is she to disagree with them?She has known Sanchi only for a few months under a year to be more precise.People who should have known Sanchi better were fooled by her and she was a little better than them she was confused at seeing Sanchi's various faces and at leat she was trying to figure out which is a mask and which is her real face.

If she decided to help Sanchi she did it out of concern and she wanted to Sanchi a benefit of doubt.It is not right to dismiss a person without giving a chance and she felt that Sanchi was trying to get familiar with the ways of BH. She saw Sanchi behaving in a very affectionate manner to Singhs.She honestly believed that Sanchi is trying to change because of her love for Jagya.Why should she dismiss those efforts by Sanchi as fake?It is better to be betrayed by someone you trusted rather than not trusting some one and feel bad later for not trusting.

When Jagya went off to Mangalore she tried to discuss this issue of Jagya;s growing attachment towards Ganga with Shiv and he was the one who brushed away her concerns.She did get the feeling that Jagya is not paying attention to Sanchi and his concern for Ganga seemed to overtake everything else in his life and she did have showdown with Jagya on this.Jagya then realised that he loved Ganga and yet did not tell anybody about it and he continued with his engagement and did nothing to break his bond with Ganga.In what way was Anandi at fault in this?

When finally entire thing blew up on their face and Jagya without giving proper reason to anyone went ahead and broke off with Sanchi and tied the knot with Ganga giving everybody an impression that he indeed broke off with Sanchi to hook up with Ganga.

If Sanchi's family like to believe that their daughter's heart is pure and her love for Jagya is pure what is her fault in this?

I think it is unfair to say that she could have prevented this mess for which everyone was responsible.

She was shown to be confused about Sanchi and Shiv was shown to be blind when it comes to Sanchi.They both tried to do their bit by explaining that it is bad idea but when they failed to prevent it from happening they tried their best to accept the situation and make it better.Now this entire thing blew up on their faces it is they who end up paying the price even they had no hand in creating this mess.




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