Episode 331 Discussion: 23rd July 2013 - Page 5

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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: _charu_

CR, sorry to butt in...but expectation ke naam par we have a long list ...aise toh Madhu is supposed to be pata nahi kya kya but never acts accordingly..

I completely understand why Radha hid the truth may be it was the right thing to do..but if RK does not, n since he was the one who was grieved & put through hell bec. of it, may be he thinks differently n we can't blame him for that...once, RK told Madhu that a parent child relation is different from all (when Padmini was upset with Madhu for forgiving RK) , but eventually, all will be well , it takes time for everything to settle down..

I agree with you that Radha wanted to retain the positive influence of MK in RK's life.. ... RK cud have found that ideal person in Radha too ! only if Radha told him the truth...she spoiled her image and retained MK's image...eventually, it became a lose lose situation for everyone..


Please feel free to butt in anytime Charu 😃

Radhaji has indeed made a lot of mistakes in her life - the biggest being marrying again without first ensuring that her son was okay with it or not. Nobody is perfect in MB land but what differs the good from the bad is the intentions. Why are we hating Madhu nowadays? Because her intentions seem suspect. Her asking Radhaji to bring Sultan-Meera back to RK mansion did not seem the work of a well-intentioned (is that a word?) person. RK understands that Madhu's intentions are not bad even when she supports Sultan against him. So why does he not understand that Radhaji's intentions are never bad even if the result is not favourable?

I know things will go back to normal between RK-Radhaji eventually. Radhaji is the kind of mother who will forgive RK anything. However, it pains me to see RK intentionally hurting his loving mother. This makes him fall in my eyes and I don't like that. I want to keep admiring him, his wickedness, but this deliberate hurting of his mother at this stage is bothering me big time.
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
1 more point ..
I thought that 40 lakhs deal was within the family only ..never knew it qas public .

But if it was not public then it means ki Marthe is getting all this info from somewhere...hmm..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ennishet

Loved the Rishbala sequence ... jail romance seems more entertaining than their room romance. 😆

Paddo surfaces finally from Mars. WTH is wrong with these two women? Why aren't they discussing RK and the case rather dwelling on that gangster and what happened to his family. Further, Madhu astounds me. Why doesn't she share with her mom what all Sultan told her including his feelings for her? On the other hand she keep going on and on about that kid and his granny. Who the hell cares about where they are. For all we know, they could be the gangster's fake family!

Madhu meeting Marathe was surprising. Marathe sounds disgusting ... the precap was 😡 WTH did he have to pass that comment about the 40 lacs and 4 phero ki shaadi?


@Red: I will hold my judgement until I see the whole scene but I think Madhu went to meet Marathe because she felt that Marathe was prejuduced against RK and his past. She thought that if she were able to prove that RK had changed ...Marathe might go easy on him and not turn the case into personal crusade. She was trying to tell him that people change...Rk has changed to be a better person while Sultan changed to be a worst person.

Personally I think both Marathe and Madhu were right in thier own places. Marathe believed that it is his duty to prove RK is a criminal and in the end truth will win.

I think Madhu said something to provoke him (quoting her idealistic view) and Marathe retorted that the cost of a person's life is 40 lakhs and so is it of marraige...she should know since she has lived through it. We will find out more tomorrow.

Two more of my observations-

1) Madhu today indirectly confirmed her closeness with Sultan in front of Marathe.

2) If not for her scene with Paddy...I would not have been so incensed at her saying "Sultan bhe badal gaya". It sounded like some sage changed into devil...she still does not realize he was always rotten to begin with. She just did not see it in her emotional upheaval. She said today that she is surprised he did not care for his son and mother but this is the same person who used his son as bait.

On a different note ..Madhu's closeness with GHG and his family is a sore point for the viewers. She has lost her credibility as a wife, DIL and lover ...thanks to her ambiguous expressions and odd dialogues in past months. It would be advisable to pay very close attention to her dialogues and expressions when anything related to Sultan/Aryan or Meera comes up.

I am surprised that knowing what Madhu knows...it has not occured yet to her that Meera might not be Sultan's mom and rather a tool to forward his interests. No one else can draw that conclusion yet because no one else knows the complete story including Sultan's preposition.


Edited by dramacrazy12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
I haven't watched the episode entirely, so this maybe all over the place. I am a sucker for RK/Madhu scenes so that tube light dinner scene did bring a smile to my face. Today's WU reminded me just why I feel this show has lost its edge. The CVs are purposely being ambiguous about everything. While that can be advantageous in an industry where it is necessary to change the storyline at the drop of a hat to avoid clunk, as a viewer I am left wondering if the things I notice will ever truly be explored. Sultan is the perfect example of the CVs ambiguity. They introduced him as a gangster with a golden heart, so that way if the time ever came they could turn him into a full-fledged villain. Now the same thing with RK. Something seems to be cooking inside his head and you can tell with the smirks, his dialogues, and his unusually calm attitude. However, the CVs can later just chalk it up to the fact that he's trying to be strong for Madhu. They are not being clear about whether Sultan is really dead because it gives potential for him to return in the future. At the same time, they can turn around and say the guy is actually dead. This is why their story-telling is all over the place.

I love Madhu because contrary to popular belief, I do believe she was a hatke heroine. The differences from her and a typical soap heroine are subtle, but they existed. Sure, she does things that make want to bang my head against the wall, but so does RK. She wasn't afraid to give it back to RK in an effective and straight to the point manner. Unlike most heroines, she had some rather bold moments in her romantic scenes. She didn't fall for Dipali's initial attempt to befriend her because she could tell something was off about her. Even when she saw Dipali's true colors she interacted with her with dignity and class. Unlike most heroines who would have probably moved away after they experienced something like the unwedding, she was stubborn enough to go and work in her ex-husband's place of work. But now she's all over the place. I don't mind her doing stupid things as long as they are called stupid and not mahan. Spending nights with the gangster and sheltering him is stupid, but the CVs portrayed it as an act of kindness. Taking revenge on RK was stupid, but CVs again portrayed it as an act of righteousness. Going to see Marathe was stupid, and you get the pattern. Madhu's actions in the last month have been questionable and wrong and the CVs are trying to brush the issue under the rug by giving scenes like Madhu's spitting on Sultan and her calling him names. They don't think TRP audiences will like the heroine suffering for her mistakes because it doesn't follow the norm of Indian soaps, but they fail to realize that when their TRPs were high it was due to tracks to the fact that tracks didn't follow the unwritten rules of Indian television.

Edited by tsk786 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

On a different note ..Madhu's closeness with GHG and his family is a sore point for the viewers. She has lost her credibility as a wife, DIL and lover ...thanks to her ambiguous expressions and odd dialogues in past months. It would be advisable to pay very close attention to her dialogues and expressions when anything related to Sultan/Aryan or Meera comes up.


It is not clear to me that the CVs/PH/Channel has yet gotten the message about how very thin a rope they are hanging by. They way they deal with Madhu is going to be the make or break of this show. And it has to be done relatively fast - within the next couple of weeks I think, by the end of the jail saga.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46
Unresed my post on pg.4.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Taniya20

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I am not able to understand RK now... I mean so much is happening in his life n he is happily accepting it 😲 .. I mean today i got the doubt whether he is ready to get punished if he proven guilty though he is not?? OR what the hell is going on in his head?? except consoling madhu n hugging, teasing , CV's are not showing any of his thought process... What the hell is going on with him... 😕




Me too, why is he not suspecting foul play, he should be asking Bittuji to do some investigation,
Sulthan never expected madhu to come, he knew Rk would come and told so too, sulthan delibrately provoked RK, why would sulthan want to meet him all alone, knowing he would be in full rage, talking sessions were futile
His family is been missing for a while for body identification or court trail no one attended
PP doesn't seem to have ended up just like that
Why is RK not asking himself these things, lets wait and see
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Charu, pooja, CR I agree with u 100%...

U guys said it all.. But just wanted to vent..

- I think Madhu going to PP was as retarded as I expected her to be.. And what she said there was equally retarded.. I think she just went to invite Marathe to do her character assassination in court.. And I really wish PP teaches her the norms of society..Which her retarded mom failed to teach her..
I have always said tat Pads is the sole reason behind her daughter's misery... And she proves me right yet again

- Madhu wondering what went wrong with Gangu.. Honey, what would have opened ur eyes..??

- I just hope that no daughter gets a mother like Pads.. Her SIL is in jail for murder case.. And she made sure that she visits a dead Sultan's house before visiting or even calling her daughter.. No wonder her daughter has misplaced priorities..

- there is a reason people spend their time, money, energy on educating their kids.. I wish Madhu would have known that PP is not gonna soften his stance towards the accused just because a self proclaimed pagal would go n give him a lame lecture. He is not Sultan who is gonna take a 360 turn after her damned lecture., I hate anybody saying anything to Rishbala.. But I am so happy that this dude is gonna pass those snide remarks.. But will she learn..??😕 Does she think that prosecution lawyers who take false cases are not aware that they are fighting a wrong case.. Heard she is a Graduate?🤢

- and before she starts wondering what happened to Sultan or the reason behind his sudden mutations.. Woman! He was a frigging gangster and twisted necks in ur presence. So what is surprising you. I wish she should have stayed in mars rather than coming over and disgusting us further.. Her face did not have an iota of concern..

- RK not acknowledging his mother was just not done. At least he should have looked at her. At least as a human being a reassuring look to a distressed soul would have worked.. Rater than having eyelocks with a wife who still has her own doubts on a random gangster's volte face..

- RJ ignoring frantic and devoted efforts of Bittuji, and giving the entire credit to Madhu.. Such a selfish n insensitive woman to say that in front of Bittuji.. And as much as i love madhuI don't see what Madhu did except for taking food for her son.. And then going to the PP to get insulted..


I love Rishbala.. But I want PP to make them go through another round of public humiliation.. I can only trust him to teach Madhu where she went wrong.. And to teach RK about a few basics too..
I can't believe tat I will get sadistic pleasure in this..

Please CVs stop butchering Madhu!! She has been butchered enuf for that clunky gangster.. 😡 How do u expect audience to relate to ur protagonist if she is gonna stay in disbelief n ignorant of her actions. The only Alag Che stance in ur show needs to be a point where Madhu says that she was wrong... Because she was!!

But a selfish admirer of this selfish bunch.. I loved the Rishbala scenes.. Loved them together.. It was like old Meiej is back.. Bhai's absence is just putting the show back on track.. The length of EDT, posts and the wait for the next episode is a proof of our show getting its shit together...😛

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: masan1

Thats what make my gut feeling strong,who is providing the info to marathe?? It can be sultan if madhu had told him about this(I didnt watch episodes after madhu wen to nurse sultan n might have told him) or biggest planner RK who is playing along his enemy. And his enemy can be anyone.


RK is no less... He was constantly spitting out the 4 thappad ke 40 lakh ke char phere wali story at the drop of a hat.. It was common knowledge.. And even if it wasn't, Dipali must have made sure that anybody who can count upto 40 is aware of the story...🤢

I am really looking forward to PP bajaoing the husband wife.. So that they will think 200 times before they come up with their whims n fantasies..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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We're only on Epi 2 of courtroom drama and I'm already enjoying this track a lot more than I thought I would! There is just something fun about both the lawyers, and Mr. Marathe is just too amusing😆
RK/Madhu remain adorable. And Madhu's actions remain believable. I wanted her to tell Padmini and I wanted her not to meet Marathe, but I still think her actions were in character. Its very easy to sit and say "She should have done this and that" but its always very embarrassing to admit your mistakes, especially in front of parents. Communication errors are one of the biggest reasons relationships falter and that's because we are usually too ashamed to tell people the whole truth- Madhu is the same here. She realizes what calamity she bought on the house, but she needs time to process it before she blurts it out to people. She also thinks Sultan's feelings for her are a matter between herself and RK- private.
Her meeting Mr. Marathe? The actions of a desperate, worried wife who saw her husband rotting in jail. She's scared and she wants to appeal to the person emotionally. Logic has very little to do with it.

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