My Analysis: Extended lyrics of de re na track... - Page 4

Originally posted by: NeelimaSJ

My point was that if Mohan is conviced that Megha loves her then that's good enough for me. Questioning Megha's love for Mohan is as good as questioning Mohan. Mohan chose to love her despite her shortcomings(which she has many) and Megha has done the same.

In real world Mohan-megha too don't exist. Noone claimes eternal love etc in real life. But CVs make that claim. Without trust, if they show lovey-dovey scenes or scenes that make us think she loves, i won't know what to term it as. But i can't call it true love.

When has she ever shown any trust on mohan without proof either by dialogues or action? When they show megha like this, i can't sympathise with her too. I'm not here to imagine or make assumptions about her pain. It should be portrayed on screen. What is portrayed on screen only has the impact.

And i know CVs are not really concerned about addressing megha's trust issue etc.

Reg. Last para: Mohan was in love and ppl see what they want to see. His dialogue too was out of the blue for me. Thats why i didn't mind the slap at all. It felt like he was forcing and putting his words into her mouth.

Awesome post Bidzie...All are in same states...

And Mostly MM are separated by the destiny on the basis of that situation on that day which took this much long...which they dint thought of it...so i think everything has its own time to take place...and things take time to come together which are shattered long back...

N i must say NBT is different from others...so it ll different off course ...whether it comes to love,hatred or pain for each other...

So i can say only that v have to n watch patiently thats'it ...😉

Originally posted by: Sunna_Deewani

In real world Mohan-megha too don't exist. Noone claimes eternal love etc in real life. But CVs make that claim. Without trust, if they show lovey-dovey scenes or scenes that make us think she loves, i won't know what to term it as. But i can't call it true love. Do all movies make a point? Or do we have to read between the lines? In a movie like Rang De Basanti, they shot the polictician to claim justice for their wronged friend but did the makers want to convey that we should take up arms to get justice? No. The point was that we should speak up for justice. The point was that we should be the change we want to see. A lot of forms of art rely on the capability of the viewer to see beyond the lines, words spoken. If that was not the case then almost all Indian dance forms would have been out of fashion.

When has she ever shown any trust on mohan without proof either by dialogues or action? When they show megha like this, i can't sympathise with her too. I'm not here to imagine or make assumptions about her pain. It should be portrayed on screen. What is portrayed on screen only has the impact. She trusted Mohan when no other woman would have dared to a trust a man. During the whole Riddhima episode she stood by him like a rock. Yes she was deeply saddened by what he had done but when it was time to support him she did. If you remember at that point of time Mohan had nothing on him to justify his act. But Megha became reckless and separated from her kids to support Mohan.

And i know CVs are not really concerned about addressing megha's trust issue etc. Maybe they don't think of it as an issue at all 😆 Who knows what goes on in their mind!

Reg. Last para: Mohan was in love and ppl see what they want to see. His dialogue too was out of the blue for me. Thats why i didn't mind the slap at all. It felt like he was forcing and putting his words into her mouth. I think Mohan's confidence grew after he questioned Megha in the middle of Juna Mohalla and got no reply. He assumed that she was uable to reply because she was in love with him.

Originally posted by: NeelimaSJ

I didn't get ur reply in 1st para at all😆.

I can only say love without trust or any relationship without trust is meaningless.

I knew that riddhima point will be raised and but i didn't mention because i didn't have the patience to explain that at that time😆. But since u have raised that point - here is what i think about that, ofcouse already discussed in MMT and points taken from MMT members, puja in particular.

we all know why she supported during that time because Riddhima told a blatant lie and accused megha of going on HM with her husband and i guess she was only saving her own honor(just assumption). I'm sure even you will agree that the lie triggered megha's support. And I don't think that support came from her trust on mohan.

And moreover i don't expect her to support when mohan is really wrong. I expect her support when he is not at wrong. Did she ever support him when he was not wrong just by trusting? NO. When someone is innocent and at that time, he doesn't get any trust, that is very hurting.

Beautiful analysis..
I very much liked the lyrics of de re ne.😊

Originally posted by: Sunna_Deewani

I didn't get ur reply in 1st para at all😆. Sorry posted it against the wrong paragraph. It was my reply to your "we only see what's shown on screen" bit 😆 My point is you've go to read between the lines many times.

I can only say love without trust or any relationship without trust is meaningless. Agreed! But how true it is in real life I don't know.

I knew that riddhima point will be raised and but i didn't mention because i didn't have the patience to explain that at that time😆. But since u have raised that point - here is what i think about that, ofcouse already discussed in MMT and points taken from MMT members, puja in particular.

we all know why she supported during that time because Riddhima told a blatant lie and accused megha of going on HM with her husband and i guess she was only saving her own honor(just assumption). I'm sure even you will agree that the lie triggered megha's support. And I don't think that support came from her trust on mohan. Megha clearly said that I know him better than you because he is not just my husband but my best friend too. I know he cannot do things with the intention to cheat anyone. If this does not indicate her trust in Mohan then I really don't know what can.
And moreover i don't expect her to support when mohan is really wrong. I expect her support when he is not at wrong. Did she ever support him when he was not wrong just by trusting? NO. When someone is innocent and at that time, he doesn't get any trust, that is very hurting. By the same sense of arguement I can say , Mohan would not have gone out of his way to marry Megha if he wasn't sure she loved him. Even after the Bhopal trip, Megha refused to believe Prateik's accusations on Mohan. She kept asking Mohan to speak up but he did(he had his reasons). I don't think she mistrusted him instantly. She did it after he chose to remain silent over such an important issue.

Originally posted by: NeelimaSJ

The supportive argument that megha presented didn't come from her trust. At that time what else can she say to refute Riddhima? She had no other choice than to support mohan as others will think she knew about his marriage and still went on HM with him. More importantly for CVs there was no other escape route for the mess they created with this Raddi track😆.

If she trusted him, then why did she say those words after addu went missing? It was not said in anger. She was in much calmer mood. She attended to his wound also.

Also, I think megha's character is not handled well by the CVs. Her side is mostly not shown properly, always used for twisting and turning the show like her support in Riddhima track(this time it was in favor of mohan and most times its against him thats the only difference).

I still maintain that what gets portrayed on screen leaves the most impact on the viewers. Her side is not shown either in dialogues or in action.

How clearly Mohan's position and progression from denial to acceptance of love was shown(Thats why noone questions whether he really loved her even after Raddi fiasco😆). But nothing for megha side. Just a sudden ILU after so much drama by mohan. Sometimes i feel she was pressurised into saying it by mohan's pursuing too much or she was overwhelmed by so much love shown towards her.

I feel megha as a character is not portrayed correctly for whatever reasons. So identification with her character or understanding her predicament are not possible for all. Thats why i want to hear it from her😆.

Originally posted by: Sunna_Deewani

2 line female voice me - iska itna bada afsaana banadiya. Then why shouldn't i think of all those nazm lines, dear😆?

With one line i can't give it to Mirchi nor can i forgot all those words she said on that episode when addu gets lost. I'm not that large hearted nor so positive as you are, bidzie😆!

Agree with you totally Subha.
I have a different understanding of the last two lines,

if you read it together

And I doubt
If we are to meet ever again

It conveys no longing but only doubt, if ever, Mohan will be able to bring Addu back ... ? But where is the longing for Mohan. This seems hope given up, to ever meet Addu brought by Mohan.

I am not angry with Megha to have such feelings. Only thing is though I would empathize with her but still I would be much more concerned about Mohan's heart break.

Thanks Bidzie for posting the words. It spared me from watching the episode again, can't spare that much time right now till 5 pm.

I dont want to say anything abt Megha at this point of time... I mean uski Quietness kuch samajh me nahi aati h...

Originally posted by: Sunna_Deewani

The supportive argument that megha presented didn't come from her trust. At that time what else can she say to refute Riddhima? She had no other choice than to support mohan as others will think she knew about his marriage and still went on HM with him. More importantly for CVs there was no other escape route for the mess they created with this Raddi track😆. Really? Megha could have easily blamed Mohan for betraying her. If Megha had not supported Mohan he would have still been Raddi's husband! If Megha did it for herself then she did it for Mohan too. For how long would people have talked if she left Mohan? Everyone would have blamed him for Megha's condition.

If she trusted him, then why did she say those words after addu went missing? It was not said in anger. She was in much calmer mood. She attended to his wound also. She said those things because she was in no state for clear thinking. She had lost her son! If Mohan can get away for abandoning Megha & Nanhi for 12 years then Megha too should be excused for saying harsh things to Mohan.

Also, I think megha's character is not handled well by the CVs. Her side is mostly not shown properly, always used for twisting and turning the show like her support in Riddhima track(this time it was in favor of mohan and most times its against him thats the only difference).

I still maintain that what gets portrayed on screen leaves the most impact on the viewers. Her side is not shown either in dialogues or in action. This I don't agree with. If everything is shown on screen then all our movies should be "leave your brains" behind type. SOmethings you take from what's being said, something you take from the nuances and some from the performance.

How clearly Mohan's position and progression from denial to acceptance of love was shown(Thats why noone questions whether he really loved her even after Raddi fiasco😆). But nothing for megha side. Just a sudden ILU after so much drama by mohan. Sometimes i feel she was pressurised into saying it by mohan's pursuing too much or she was overwhelmed by so much love shown towards her. I think the only thing Mohan did was beat her confession out of her. Rest everything was inside her waiting to burst. Like I said before I knew she loved him since the supermarket episode.

I feel megha as a character is not portrayed correctly for whatever reasons. So identification with her character or understanding her predicament are not possible for all. Thats why i want to hear it from her😆.