Jai Walia - Eternally 'NOT' Confused! - Page 7

Originally posted by: shish

What you are saying might be right MT.
I want to add one question here, regarding Jai saying to Pia "Doobte ko kinara.......", During you depression time, comsuming alcohol might help some how(though of this too I am not very sure), but how does sleeping with someone help????? Why???? Even if both of them were divorced, would that still make this act legal?????

And when he can say "SORRY" to his wife for sleeping with her, why hasn't he said that to Pia, where he actully should???????

I would'nt have minded Jai bumping off Bani's whole family with his car,and stay quite about this his whole life !!!!!!!!!!! Than comitting this act.

I agree with one correction though....They both are NOT divorced.....Jai had the papers in his hand yet......I am not sure how we would have taken all this if the divorce was formalised and Jai indeed was a free man. Even though he agreed for the divorce he yet have feelings for bani....just he has to define those !!!

Jai has comitted a mistake and there is no forgiveness for this !!! He has lost it !!!

Hi MT,
I am glad u have posted ur analysis as I have been wondering howcome u haven't so far.
I agree with some of ur points.
However, if Jai has slept with Pia then I do think he deserves MORE THAN BASHINGMORE THAN BASHING
He was drunk but he gets drunk a lot so that doesn't mean each time he should be forgiven if he commits adultery! 😡 Worse with sister-in-law, even gross then with wife = Mr. Horny!

But I don't think he has slept with Pia 😃 As I am sure the creatives have atleast this much of brain to realize as that will NOT be acceptable especially because they r sisters.
Do u really think that will be acceptable? Unless the story is going to conclude Bani leaving Jai which I hope not since this will shatter everyone.

Could u tell us honestly if Jai has slept with Pia or not? I mean ur thoughts, I am sure u don't know the truth too 😉
Do u think JAi should be forgiven if he has just because he was drunk and seduced by Pia?

Awaiting for ur answers!

MT i totally second your arguments, as usual extremely eloquent and absolutely spot on!! 👏


Again people judge Jai's actions using knowledge that they have but his character doesn't. We know there was a higher good involved, we know she hurt herself in hurting him but HE doesn't! He trusted her blindly, asking her time and again why she wouldn't confide in him but all she did was stomp on his heart, and throw it back at him.

After losing everything he had Jai gave himself up to Pia - probably because he thought he had nothing left to lose anymore. As he himslef said perfectly "doobte hue ko tinke ka sahara hota hai" (or something to that effect 😳 )

Someone asked how sleeping with a person would help the pain - it's not about the physical act of sex, it was about feeling wanted, feeling needed. Pia made him feel less than useless and alone and he accepted her support - why is this so hard for people to understand?

Doing so does not diminish his love for Bani - at the time, according to him there was nothing between them anymore. The fact that after sleeping with Pia (IF he did) he was proved wrong - how is that his fault? He isn't telepathic!!

With regard to your point about marriage vows, I completely agree that Bani has in effect broken them too by lying and mistrusting her husband. But her behaviour is seen as acceptable regardless of the effect it had on Jai. How she broke her marriage vows left them both devastated and lost them their child...

...But say he never tells Bani the truth and she never finds out (which of course isn't possible in a drama serial as every little thing always comes back to bite you in the ass eventually!!)... say he clarifies everything with Pia and guilt assuaged he goes back to his wife, treats her like a Princess for the rest of her life and they die happy... say Pia gets over her "feelings" for Jai, goes back to Pushkar, lives a fulfilled life and they die happy. In this situation, how Jai broke his marriage vows has cost Bani absolutely nothing.

And for those who argue that morally, and in his conscience and his soul he will always be a "sinner" and he will always have wronged Bani - do you really think he would care, as long as Bani is happy and by his side??? What human being would...? "based on a lie", "not telling the whole truth", "guilty in the eyes of God" - these phrases would mean nothing if for the rest of their lives Jai and Bani are true and faithful to each other... and happy!

And if Bani did find out then what - more pain, more tears, separation, heartache - so in the end what was gained by "coming clean"???

what, did i scare everyone off? 😕 😆

Originally posted by: Cordelia

what, did i scare everyone off? 😕 😆

nahh !!! was jst takin my timee....to read...!!!

andd yh i do thinkk that MT ..was spot on the issueee...as a matter of fact i do thinkk that jai commited a mistakee..butt i do think that i am still a jai supporter... [yhh i noww all of u ..with comee with ur jotee's].. butt yh myy lovee for our cuddles........will remain samee...althoughh yh i knoww it has affectedd ...!!! but ohh well...!!

letss sewhat ekt ahgas in storee for us...!! 😃

man u can write MT! 😉 i totally agree with ur view of ks! Anywayz i hope that jai confess to bani soon!

Shajida

Hi MT:

Thanks for this post!! I had the same thoughts this morning. It doesnt seem like Jai is interested in Pia- the way it did sound like was that he would have taken anybody's support in that situation.

I would like to comment on is Bani's super happy behavior. Can you blame the girl? She just confessed her love to the man she loves, and although he remained silent, he gave her the implication that he reciprocated her love. For once she is living for herself and her happiness. I do not see her so excited for Pia or Rano, but for herself. She has finally found that someone for herself, and she finally gets to live her life for herself, rather than work for someone else.

She feels like now she can finally talk, finally breath, finally be happy and love someone, and in return be loved. She has played a backseat to her sisters her whole life, because she has had to take care of them for so long.

Bani's reaction and new outlook on life is so understandable. Its really rather sweet. If all of a sudden the love of your life is there with you, when a moment before you thought you lost him- wouldnt you be happy?

Just some thoughts- thanks guys :)

i too agree with what u said,MT.i do not think that Jai Walia is confused about his feelings for Bani and Pia.he is just feeling guilty and trying to find a way out of it.but,i don't think he has suddenly started loving Pia or he does not love Bani anymore,NEVER!he loves Bani a lot.but,the way things have happened,he is too much lost to show Bani how much he loves her.

Originally posted by: Hkaurk22

Hi MT:

Thanks for this post!! I had the same thoughts this morning. It doesnt seem like Jai is interested in Pia- the way it did sound like was that he would have taken anybody's support in that situation.

I would like to comment on is Bani's super happy behavior. Can you blame the girl? She just confessed her love to the man she loves, and although he remained silent, he gave her the implication that he reciprocated her love. For once she is living for herself and her happiness. I do not see her so excited for Pia or Rano, but for herself. She has finally found that someone for herself, and she finally gets to live her life for herself, rather than work for someone else.

She feels like now she can finally talk, finally breath, finally be happy and love someone, and in return be loved. She has played a backseat to her sisters her whole life, because she has had to take care of them for so long.

Bani's reaction and new outlook on life is so understandable. Its really rather sweet. If all of a sudden the love of your life is there with you, when a moment before you thought you lost him- wouldnt you be happy?

Just some thoughts- thanks guys :)

Bang on!!! Couldn't have put it more better!👏 Bani is in Love for the first time (Pushkar was an infatuation as per her own words) and is convinced that the man whom she loves so much loves her back too! Bani for the first time since the beginning of KS is behaving her age...Like a Young Woman in Love for the First Time!👏 Jai, I guess, just needs time to let this feeling sink in slowly!

Once again, beautifully penned thoughts! Also, thank you so much guys for the responses on this Thread! The one thing that has amazed me most is the kind of support Jai is getting from Members who have been vehemently Anti-Jai till now.......

Cheers,

MT

Originally posted by: Raaga_om

Are you a spellbinder MT?I should actually be defending Munna but ek pal me waqt badal jata hai! Today I'm on the opposite camp!The whole thing the whole concept disgusts me Rekha. I just still cannot believe Munna actually did it. Humans make mistakes and I am not a prude but this is one thing I can never accept. My love cheats me so i sleep with somebody else? And then you disown the whole night and ask your bed partner to move on becasue you discover your wife did not cheat you and that you have feelings for her? What if your wife did that to you? See all this while I have ben a shameless Mqle chauvinistic pig though I am a feminist but that was all becaquse it didn't really matter my drooling my Amma bashing was all a harmless sport but this? Na no way can never be justified and biggest misfortune for Amma if he loves her! I mean the whole thing is so repulsive You sleep with a woman and then say it was all a bad mistake that they must both get on with their respective lives?
Seriously they have just murdered my Munna. Bani was murdered long back but she is the KS so she will always be redeemed. she will never be allowed to cross borders but I can never forgive them for killing my Munna and hence me.
This is just I don't know even rat waste seems more decent and palatable than where KS is heading. This is so I don't know but MT one night stands will never be endorsed by me even if the man involved is super hot and loves his wife like crazy. My Munna is no more and Jai walia has lost all my respect everything. He simply disgusts me.I am sorry if I'm hurting anybody but you know I have been one of the most craziest vehement Munna defenders and lovers and this is jst too huge a blow. I'm still reeling under the shock.That night Munna was not the only one who died. he took Raaga along too.. .. ..

-Raaga

Raaga,

Isn't there a lot of difference between conscious adultery and a mistake?

One of the most despicable sins is adultery for sure. Men knowingly cheating their wife, that's utterly disgusting and should never be pardoned I feel. (Though how many women pardon such men after all and possibly have a good marriage afterwards?? Many women rather forgive their husband then lose him, I've seen it around me)

OK, it was disgusting, sleeping with two sisters in one night, but i like to follow MT on it (and several others too, for that matter). Jai was so much pushed by Pia and than being drunk and lost - not to stumble would have been a tour-de-force for almost every man. ( and what would a woman do in a comparable situation??? After all, not only men cheat.)

From the blurred video's on my pc, it seems that Jai is very upset with the whole situation, he is not making it easy for himself.

Now you have lost your "hero". Can't you forgive him and again enjoy a little? (But if I am ever going to forgive Ms Ekta and her creatives for such utterly tasteless events in KS???)

You even don't know me, but as I was an absolute fan of your ff's and other writings, your KS-well-being goes to my heart!

Regards, Maria