SRGMP Forum - A Bright Tomorrow - Page 21

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

I also feel it is better to have Jaadooji handle this rather than any outside member. We need someone who feels close to this issue and will present all points of it seriously and the way they need to be presented. An outside member may not feel so enthusiastic about this survey collection and compilation. We want a whole-hearted effort from a member we all know, not a possible half-hearted effort from a member most of us don't know.

As far as accusation of bias is concerned, why only Jaadooji, even an outside member can be accused of having some bias/proximity to Mods. There is a very recent example of that happening, which I will not bring up now. Whoever we pick, you cannot guarantee that everyone will be satisfied with them. At least Jadooji is a well known and respected member of our own forum.

If you still feel there may be accusations of bias, we can have two members do the compilations separately, instead of one. At least two different people won't be accused of bais, I hope.

Life runs on trust - In Jadoo, we all trust so I do not see an issue. Now I know what will happen - hukum aayeyga "Let us have a poll on whether to have a poll (Survey)" . Please Shady Bhai - no more juicy Jha style write ups on this as it may be considered a serious issue by some of us here. Kahin chappan ke sathavan nahin ho jayey is liyey main abh chup rahoonga. Jadooji : Go for it - As a Senior member of this BF, I say you are the man to do it - more power to you. Lage Raho - Jadoo Bhai ..😉

Since the creation of the Fan Club and the Chat Club were global decisions, it would be nice to have a little reasoning behind the move.
I frequented a few of the other sections prior and post the creation of aforementioned sections. Very rarely did I encounter member interaction problems. Was this solely a SRGMP issue then?
I never once received any explanation via PM or newsletter in regards to the creation of these sections. Shouldn't all users have been notified of these changes, and given some sort of explanation?

There are separate sections for different shows because they are entity on and of their own. However, chatting and fan clubs are associated with individual shows and particular communities that have been formed.

Unfortunately, it feels like we keep circling the same issues and those in charge are unwilling to listen, provide valid reasoning, and come to some form of compromise. I'd been excited to participate in the survey and bring about some change here...but as many old members who have left have voiced..the scope of change is very limited, if at all possible for this section.

It makes me sad to leave here...but we haven't achieved much that is productive. I hope memebers such as Jaadooji, Surji, Varshadi, Malav, Jayadi, Rahul, Adi and all can bring about some change...they have the patience to deal with all of this. But I find myself quickly joining the other group - those of us who feel defeated because in the end member satisfaction holds no meaning.

Maybe we can get Anol Da's opinion here too - Anol Da - Hazir Ho .......

Since the creation of the Fan Club and the Chat Club were global decisions, it would be nice to have a little reasoning behind the move.
I frequented a few of the other sections prior and post the creation of aforementioned sections. Very rarely did I encounter member interaction problems. Was this solely a SRGMP issue then?
I never once received any explanation via PM or newsletter in regards to the creation of these sections. Shouldn't all users have been notified of these changes, and given some sort of explanation?

There are separate sections for different shows because they are entity on and of their own. However, chatting and fan clubs are associated with individual shows and particular communities that have been formed.

Unfortunately, it feels like we keep circling the same issues and those in charge are unwilling to listen, provide valid reasoning, and come to some form of compromise. I'd been excited to participate in the survey and bring about some change here...but as many old members who have left have voiced..the scope of change is very limited, if at all possible for this section.

It makes me sad to leave here...but we haven't achieved much that is productive. I hope memebers such as Jaadooji, Surji, Varshadi, Malav, Jayadi, Rahul, Adi and all can bring about some change...they have the patience to deal with all of this. But I find myself quickly joining the other group - those of us who feel defeated because in the end member satisfaction holds no meaning.[/QUOTE]

Now Member satisfaction was the Laksh here and if that itself is lost then it is self defeating - I feel sorry Simi that you, me and many others have found alternates (some just check PMs and walk away!!) but chappan aisey tho nahin huey bhai .......... and the count continues ....😉

Well said Adi. My take is that the Forum admins, in their zeal, to maintain decorum became over-zealous. I cannot blame them totally as they must have come across ugly situations in the past. I for one was chastized for expressing my opinion which till date, I maintain, did not contain any vulgarity. If you look at my avatar I have a red dot warning against my name. I determined that this was probably a forum best suited for serious to light humor.

So as far as I am concerned, I use the forum to get info about SRGMP in advance as I am a avid fan. Occasionally, I do drop in a few lines (trying to be punchful but avoiding the cross wire of forum admins).

I agree with you that this forum is very DRY 😕

Jadoo, hats off to u! i think your points on pg 10 were right on. shows a lot of competence and leadership skill, two of the most important attributes IMO in having someone do the survey for us. tum kaheen professional CEO toh nahee ho? ab hourly rates mil jaate toh...😆

excellent points along the way Shady, Simi!

i also feel for those who have to take this stuff from the rest of us. cant be fun. but remember, when the company prospers, the CEOs have the most fun. which is why it is smartest to set aside the personal feelings and focus on what's good for the company.

Originally posted by: Jaadoogar

Barnali ji,

I am writing it which I never wanted to write, but for the sake of fair and large participation of member in this survey I am doing it. I wanted to handle this survey. I may be looking like disparate person to do this job but my effort is sincere, I want to give back to this forum which gave me so much in one year. A forum can not be run without members. I think most of members know I am not an Admin appointed person. But still I am ready to take the criticism, I know it is a tough job for anybody. But somebody has to take responsibilty, My suggestion for survey was just to avoid the mess in thread otherwise all those points can be discussed in open but it will create more problems. I may be unfair when supporting contestants of TV show but I tried not to be biased when it comes to relationship with members.

I agree to Jaadoo ji here,its a problem of our forum and should be discussed here at the forum(ghar ka mamla ghar mein hi suljha lo).I don't see anyone have a problem with Jaadoo ji representing the active members.

Wow - a lot seemed to have happened while I was away. So, looks like we have still not decided on who conducts the survey and where we take it to. As mentioned by many before - this is a concern, we the members of this section are facing and hence its a matter close to our heads and hearts. So a neutral member can best feel the concerns and produce the most effective results. Completely outsourcing it to a GM might loose the very context and we will end up having a survey totally bound by the dos and donts; end result we will not be able to nail down the issues and what the members really want.

Yet I agree that some rules, if universal need to be in place. I have been reading that moving FCs to a section has been a universal rule and is being followed in all the sections. Well I just check II and FG sections before making this post, and I can see FCs in the very first page and amongst the most active topics! Not that I am routing for Fcs here - the point is why should there be special rules for SRGMP alone? Same thing with chatty topics... There are chatty topics on on each and every section, and the so called spamming takes place there as well! Long quotes, smileys all over the place, bold fonts used else where are considered absolutely fine. Again, I am not justifying thats the way to go - but just trying to say that these are allowed elsewhere and hence atleast when we do the survey now - eveything should be under the perview of discussion.

If we start off the survey with a negetive feeling from the members that Dev team is anyway not receptive of ideas and will do what they think is right, and do not want to involve members in this evolution process; the entire purpose of the survey is defeated. I would request them to give us members a fair chance to express our opinions!

yaar, like some others have said before, this is a lean period and we can expect things to pick up once there is another raucous contest. i also think that most of us have already made some of the virtual relationships- bhai, behan, dost etc- we ever wanted to. groups have formed, boundaries drawn, relationships identified. this is now the more difficult period of nibhaoing these rishtas. the exciting honeymoon period of discovery is largely over. so some let-down is understandable, unless we do something to shake-up the mix.

meanwhile, if it's not already too late in the day for me to be saying this and in case we do want to make some improvements, i'd suggest taking a look at what we want: a disciplined regiment-style forum where everything is compartmentalized, a spontaneous chaotic forum where things are more free-wheeling, or something in between. i can easily see why different folks would prefer one or the other, and situations where one is to be recommended over the other.

from my perspective, i'd like things to be unstructured and relaxed with the bare minimum set of rules. i dont know about others but being told that here is a thread to enjoy for 1 week, there's a thread to enjoy for the next 3 etc., is too planned for my taste. it would have made sense if I were a dim-wit or were in KG class, but i am a few years past that today, as i suspect some of you are. setting artificial time-limits and constraints on interaction kills the spontaneity and creativity, important if we want to have fun.

for what it's worth, i strongly believe that fun can't be just wished or legislated into existence. i also think there's too much of a mind-set all around that does precisely that.

bottom-line, i would want us to focus more on having the right environment, rather than a precise list of dos and donts. CEOs work on creating that environment through strategy and policy, not by formulating extensive laws. have simple rules such as ban on abusive behavior. build on from there as the need arises.

like sweet Angie might say Peace.

Originally posted by: s.priya

I will defer to Barnali and Bhaskars opinion, but my personal opinion is this cannot be done without involving the moderators or other India Forums development Team members.

Reasons:-

a) there are certain rules of IF, written and implicit, which are known only to them and no rule for a section can be created contrary to those rules.

b) Members while they do have valid points, not all times do they catch the pulse of the section. We had a very recent example in IF where things went wrong during a member interaction.

c) Moderators are there to help out members. Otherwise Moderators are of no use at all. So without their involvement, having a process of this kind is really not right.

d) If there is a feeling of bias from the side of the Moderating team, as Barnali said, we can get other moderators from other sections, who can do it.

I feel we can go for some other Dev Team member here for this. It cannot be done without the Dev Team I too agree.

How about our viewbie radz_2cool.......

She can do this survey for us.