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Posted: 13 years ago

#361

Originally posted by: Allbut1
Aarti was definitely still with Prashant when that picture in the precap was taken! Yash and Arpita got married 8 years ago (their marriage lasted 4 years if I am not mistaken) and Prashant left Aarti 5 years ago, so they were still together then!

Something that's bothering me though is that Aarti said that she has never been to Mumbai but didn't Arpita & Yash spend their honeymoon there? So how was she in the picture? Did the honeymoon location change and I missed it?

Maham,

I think Ansh is a few months younger than Palak, otherwise how could they be in the same class in school. I suspect many of us think Ansh is older because he's been acting in some ways like an older brother would with Palak.

But we should remember the discussion some of you had on this thread where it was said that he thinks of himself as an "adult". He doesn't see himself as a little boy, but as a little man. And he's always been protective of Arti. So now he's protective of BOTH Payal AND Palak. And as he's protective if Palak, who is the elder sister, we think he's older than her too.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#362

You hide behind your feelings
and keep the truth locked away,
but there is so much said
in the things you don't say

You innocently, tell me
our time has come and gone
and that we can't go back
but I don't believe it
and this time you're wrong

The distance you put between us
is nothing more than time lost;
a place for your feelings to hide,
yet I can hear the love in your voice
each time we talk

My patience has no end
when it comes to loving you
and I will wait a lifetime
for you to see the truth

Real love doesn't go away
it doesn't fade into the past,
it goes on forever
and always finds its way back

I will wait a lifetime for you
because you are my soul,
and behind all of your doubt
I know you can't let go

You are my soul,
and I am yours, too.
If two people were ever meant to be,

And that's Me Arati And you Yash

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Posted: 13 years ago

#363

@Doratalk: I am missing Samana terribly as well, especially after this episode because I know she would have absolutely loved it! Her analysis on this episode is one that we're all going to miss, I just hope she gets back soon! But you did a wonderful job in filling her shoes today, your picked apart Yash's psyche and emotional dilemma perfectly!

@All: Yash is literally walking through hell right now!I just watched the episode again and my god Yash was like a raging bull as he threw away all of Arpita's stuff! There was unadulterated anger written all over his face and a sense of manic in his eyes! Gurmeet was beyond, beyond brilliant in the entire episode, but his especially excelled in the first scene and then the moment where he is fighting the internal battle between his past and present when the room was on fire! Kudos, kudos, kudos for much a mind blowing performance. He lived and breathed Yash's pain, anger and confusion today and it stuns me everyday just how much he has grown in this role! Beautifully done!

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Posted: 13 years ago

#364

Originally posted by: anonee

In today's episode Aarti mentions that Arpita-Yash honeymoon location is Kodaikanal - where the picture where she is in the background was taken.

Thank you so much for clearing this up! I haven't caught up on all the takes and I guess I missed this part in the precap! So this all makes much more sense to me now!

@Sungum: The kid's age have caused quiet a bit of confusion all around so I don't try to rationalize it too deeply! But yeah, according to what we have seen Palak and Ansh are the same age, but Palak is a couple months older, and Payal is a year younger than both!

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Posted: 13 years ago

#365

My take on today's episode:

When someone close to an individual dies there are generally 5 stages of grief/mourning, the last of which is acceptance and resolution of emotional pain.

Thus far Yash was stuck primarily in denial and depression.

Today's episode for me signified to me Yash's journey towards acceptance of Arpita's death in a healthy manner. He has been grieving this long and today all his pent-up emotions and agony were out and open for all to view. But at a deeper level he has also realized he has to move on and cannot isolate himself in grief.and cannot continue to function mechanically. He has accepted his loss and perhaps may grieve for her loss but is ready to move on.

The fire symbolically to me signified her cremation in Yash's mind.

The agony he displayed in having to leave the Arpita's (portraits and) personal items or her living presence in current life - was a display that he is cremating the living presence that he was holding onto all these years. Not necessarily the memories - for memories can be cherished and shared with children.

Aarti could have walked, run or whatever - but him carrying Aarti for me symbolized his shedding his grief and carrying his present while forging his way to a future. A task as ardous for him as walking through a ferocious blaze. A future where he is not living m echanically but actively participating and interacting in the present!

(And as mentioned earlier this is a loop closure - Aarti walked over burning coals to receive the grace to save him, he in turn walks through fire and save her!)

I know we are looking at the logistics of the script and finding loop holes. But the story is conveyed at a symbolic level not in details of realism.

Western psychology describes 5 stages of grief. Below are 2 websites that enumerate them - and I am sure many of you probably are aware of many other resources.

https://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/

https://www.cancersurvivors.org/Coping/end%20term/stages.htm

The other aspect of today's episode is the soul-mate connection. Others have already pointed that out. So I am only going to state that in my opinion, Yash is still grieving and in the initial stages of acceptance of Arpita's death - no thought for romance in his psyche as of now!!

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Posted: 13 years ago

#366

Maham,

You are absolutely right. Samana is sorely missed. She was missed when she went absent for two days, when a great epi came on, and she'll be missed fir the remaining days till she can surface. I hope she's landed well and is doing ok for now, and settles in quite quick.

Many regulars are awol atm, and so missed. Hope all on holiday have a great time, and come back rested and relaxed and ready to hit boards running.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#367

Originally posted by: MelodiousDreams
@Deeps: Also, if Prashant was visible in the picture with Aarti (he could have been taking a picture of her for all we know), the divorce truth would have to come out sooner rather than later, and I highly doubt they'd do that at this point! We've got a long way to go, I think!

@Saffi: Aaah, your post about Yash and Aarti's connection as soulmates made me think about all those times they crossed paths...What really stunned me about the precap and Aarti's observation about her presence in the picture was that the connection between Yash and Aarti goes back even further than what we'd seen! At one point during our discussions, I wondered how many times they had crossed paths before we got to be witnesses of their lives starting with Mansi's wedding...I keep thinking that this truly is a story of love that transcends time - that's the romantic in me speaking, but I can't help it.

@Borna I was actually thinking about this today, before I watched the episode (on a long drive with nothing to do, causes one to think about random things 😆). I was recently watching the first few episodes of Punar Vivah again, and I had noticed the countless times destiny had caused them to cross paths. So I was like... wait, so if they're soulmates then they've probably been crossing paths for ages, and today's episode cleared this for us too! Oh, this was such a beautiful moment and totally unexpected!

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Posted: 13 years ago

#368

Originally posted by: anonee
@ilovepyaar - hope you had a safe trip..

In today's episode Aarti mentions that Arpita-Yash honeymoon location is Kodaikanal - where the picture where she is in the background was taken.

Thank you, I did! 😳

You're right! Hmm, I wonder if Aarti was there alone, or with Prashant? And if she was with Prashant then were they on their honeymoon too? 😛

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Posted: 13 years ago

#369

Originally posted by: Allbut1
@Doratalk: I am missing Samana terribly as well, especially after this episode because I know she would have absolutely loved it! Her analysis on this episode is one that we're all going to miss, I just hope she gets back soon! But you did a wonderful job in filling her shoes today, your picked apart Yash's psyche and emotional dilemma perfectly!

@All: Yash is literally walking through hell right now!I just watched the episode again and my god Yash was like a raging bull as he threw away all of Arpita's stuff! There was unadulterated anger written all over his face and a sense of manic in his eyes! Gurmeet was beyond, beyond brilliant in the entire episode, but his especially excelled in the first scene and then the moment where he is fighting the internal battle between his past and present when the room was on fire! Kudos, kudos, kudos for much a mind blowing performance. He lived and breathed Yash's pain, anger and confusion today and it stuns me everyday just how much he has grown in this role! Beautifully done!

I agree about Samana's unfortunate absence, and I can't wait to hear what she has to say about all this! I love how more and more wonderful writers are speaking up now, over the course of the past few months we've seen a lot of great insights from new DC members, and it's fantastic!

@bold: I think I wrote something yesterday about him walking through a tunnel of hellfire - or if I didn't actually write it, I was definitely, definitely thinking it. And to see that actually happening today was overwhelming!

Gurmeet was THE star of the episode today, for all the reasons you've mentioned, Maham! The tortured expressions on his face and the way his facial muscles were contorted in immense pain conveyed Yash's anguish so clearly that it made me cringe in pain along with him...But those yells...Those yells communicated his despair more effectively than anything he could have said in a monologue or dialogue. I also loved Kratika as much as Gurmeet in the fire scene. Her yells of panic and gasps of frightened surprise when the flames surround Aarti were flawless in tone and texture; I genuinely loved the beginning of the fire scene because the frenzied panic was shown really well. Tons of applause for the director as well as both Gurmeet and Kratika for bringing that out so effectively! I have so many thoughts about this episode!