For Love or for Honor? - Page 2

Originally posted by: nitica_82

Divergent opinions.....hehehe.Thak gayi, yaar. Can't explain my point anymore.😛

Nittoo darling, no you cant get tired so fast yaar(u see, you have to prepare for your exams too!)...Yep, divergent opinions and that;s the fun part of it...And I'm going in full flow too as I see a very positive discussion when you are involved...Otherwise I would never encourage controversial topics here, which would spoil the environment of the forum...But you are game for it and this topic is quite tempting to put your points forth...And as long as the discussion is healthy and doesnt get personal we can go ahead...I like your points(though I agree to disagree in this one matter😆) and the way you stick so firm to your opinion...Keep it up baby..You are one gutso young woman!👏

Raksha...

I agree with nits .... even i wud make a person hurt like hell if he had hurt me ... yet take him back in the end rather than being miserable without him.....

Ofcourse there is a difference between Swabhimaan and Abhimaan....that is self-respect and ego...........but Kripa doesn't have an ego.....it is Angad who has one. And after all that Angad has said to her, if Kripa does get even with him and still not forgive him, I would consider it the true mark of a strong woman and not the faltering of a fragile ego!

Howmuch ever apologetic or repentant Angad is.....he cannot bring back what he has lost...........and he has lost what was not even his.........he has badgered, abused and smashed a woman's self-worth............how on earth can he redeem himself for losing something which was not even his in the first place???

And there is really no need for Kripa to take revenge from Angad - his own painful and lonely future will do it for him!

Hey, I do really feel bad for Angad......but then this is his calling!

Chilly

Originally posted by: bips

ok.... i'm going to get murdered by feminists for this but still......

there are so many diff types of loves, u just can't box them up into neat categories. kripa loves angad, angad loves her but feels betrayed, does this give him the right to attack her self respect. NO. but....

i remember this scene from devdas, where paro n her mom is completely humiliated by devdas' family and still she wants to just marry him, so her sister-in-law asks her "how can u say all this...do u have no self-respect...won't u feel ashamed asking for ur love after all this has happened"

so paro with the most serene face says "ashamed ? why should i feel ashamed in asking for what is already mine ? "

sometimes love can rise above oneself, u can love someone to the extent that nothing else matters-family, friends, honour, past heart-aches. even if the other person does not reciprocate ur feelings, it just doesn't matter, your love is sufficient for both of you.

yes prithvi is the perfect guy for kripa but who says you have to fall in love with someone who is perfect for you on paper. heart does not follow logic, it does not follow any reason. there may be the best guys around you but you might still fall for the one who will give your dad a heart-attack.

It all just depends on your personal equation with the person. so while someone can never forgive angad, another person might not even need him to say sorry, the remorse in his eyes would be sufficient.

So, should kripa forgive angad....yes bec of the kind of love they share (though most of the intensity is generated by the forum, not much is actually shown in the actual serial)

should she marry prithvi.....no bec HE deserves better, not someone who will always be in love with another man.

Thanks a lot Bips. You brought tears to my eyes...with all this logic around I was beginning to feel stupid but you reinstated my faith...............THANK YOU SO MUCH. You don't know how much this means to me.🤗

Originally posted by: nitica_82

If I was Kripa.....I would give Angad the hell of his life....go on punishing him until it starts hurting me and I settle scores...when am sure that noe we are equals...and my heart still pines for him, I would still walk the sunset with him.

As a child, I was taught everything that you have been taught...but my Grand Dad told me one important thing.....

"Swabhimaan aur abhiman mein bahot fark hota hai...agar koi apni aatma se, sacche dil se maafi maange to use maaf kar dena chaahiye...yahi tumhaare aatm-sammaan aur tumhari insaaniyat ki jeet hai."

It is okay if I sound stupid but I know what am saying.😛

yeah I agree nitica with your grandpa cause If someone apologise to u with your heart u have to forgive him.My mother always said if someone hurt u dont say anything,everything leave on the Allah and he will help u and she is so right whenever people said something Allah show them.Thats why my believe is so strong on Allah.

thats the whole point.... love is not about being logical, or being rational, or even doing the right thing.... these are all functions of the brain... you don't love with your brain, you love with your heart

the problem now days is that we just complicate everything by thinking too much..."he shld say this, he shld say that, he shld do this, he shld do that, if he really loved me he would have never said/done this/that"

the purest form of love is when nothing matters not even the actions of the person you love... you just love them, why do you have to justify your love to anyone?

Originally posted by: muniza75

yeah I agree nitica with your grandpa cause If someone apologise to u with your heart u have to forgive him.My mother always said if someone hurt u dont say anything,everything leave on the Allah and he will help u and she is so right whenever people said something Allah show them.Thats why my believe is so strong on Allah.

You reminded me of Naila...my course-mate...she always says,
"Jab hum kisi sharminda insaan ko maaf nahiin karte...to Allah humein maaf nahiin karte."

You are right.

Angad sharminda ho phir na!! All of us are reacting to the characters as of now...don't worry Nitica didi...however much we hate Angad right now, deep down we all still want Angad and Kripa to walk hand-in-hand towards the sunset...and not after 100 marriages and 200 kids with other people!! Anyway, I take back what I said about sharmindagi...there is a beautiful song where the lover asks, "Pyar mujhse jo kiya tumne toh kya paaogi, mere haalat ke aandhi mein bikhar jaaogi." The answer is ..."Mein jo sharminda hua tum bhi to sharmaogi." As Eric Segal said, " Being in love means never having to say sorry."

i think self-respect is more precious 😊

Originally posted by: bips

ok.... i'm going to get murdered by feminists for this but still......

there are so many diff types of loves, u just can't box them up into neat categories. kripa loves angad, angad loves her but feels betrayed, does this give him the right to attack her self respect. NO. but....

i remember this scene from devdas, where paro n her mom is completely humiliated by devdas' family and still she wants to just marry him, so her sister-in-law asks her "how can u say all this...do u have no self-respect...won't u feel ashamed asking for ur love after all this has happened"

so paro with the most serene face says "ashamed ? why should i feel ashamed in asking for what is already mine ? "

sometimes love can rise above oneself, u can love someone to the extent that nothing else matters-family, friends, honour, past heart-aches. even if the other person does not reciprocate ur feelings, it just doesn't matter, your love is sufficient for both of you.

yes prithvi is the perfect guy for kripa but who says you have to fall in love with someone who is perfect for you on paper. heart does not follow logic, it does not follow any reason. there may be the best guys around you but you might still fall for the one who will give your dad a heart-attack.

It all just depends on your personal equation with the person. so while someone can never forgive angad, another person might not even need him to say sorry, the remorse in his eyes would be sufficient.

So, should kripa forgive angad....yes bec of the kind of love they share (though most of the intensity is generated by the forum, not much is actually shown in the actual serial)

should she marry prithvi.....no bec HE deserves better, not someone who will always be in love with another man.

😆 Bips, sweety, I am a feminist, no doubt, but not a murderer! Well Paro does say what you just mentioned, but she still gets married to the other guy..........and out of her own free will.............she does eventually put her self-esteem over the guy she loves..............and spends the rest of her life burning for him............

A case in point is also the recent movie Parineeta, where Shekhar abuses Lolita in the same way as Angad does (ofcourse since the era was different, the choice of language also differed, but the content was mainly the same) and Lolita choses not to respond to his allegation...............she moves out of Shekhar's life while still remaining committed to him with her heart and soul............she does chose her self-respect over the man she loves so dearly. (The ending was a totally different affair altogether..........but then Shekhar is also vastly different from Angad, as is Lolita from Kripa!)

Cheers,

Chilly

PS: Nits, you really surprise me when you say that Kripa and Angad should walk into the sunset together...................maybe, as you said, conflicting opinions!😛