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Posted: 14 years ago
Something funny just occured to me...
Today, Guddu wants to call their first born girl Jhunjhun.
I came across an episode from Jan 21st where Guddu finds out from the Mamas that Runjhun is getting married and that Abhigyan and Runjhun have gone to Kanpur for wedding shopping. He sends Kukkan and Jabbo to check every train retrurning to Kannauj from Kanpur and he has a monlogue where he says "Runjhunia aisa jhunjhunia bajaayenge tumhara ki saara Kannauj dekhega"! (Runjhun, I will make your life so miserable that all of Kannauj will see). It is the use of the word Jhunjhun in reference to Runjhun...
How times have come a-changing... I started laughing when I heard it... I need to revisit older episodes... Saw them in superspeed to catch up, once upon a time...
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: gardes

Thanks, Eternalasha, for you kind words. I enjoyed writing the update.

I like the points you make in the discussion of the episode.
Runjhun has had some hards knocks in her life. Having no support in anything she did and helplessness was the norm in her life and yet she rose above all that to maintain her Amma's love and support.
Now she has a new person in her life who will do anything to keep her happy and be her backbone and she reciprocates the feelings. It is a new emotion for her. It is natural to feel fear just when she finds someone so special in her life. Feelings of dread from happiness being torn from her hands is paramount right about now when things are looking up for her. Any mother would feel the same for her children and a wife for her husband.
II can personally relate to it so I see your point. She is probably really triggered right now.
Runjhun also knows well that Guddu has the propensity to react impulsively to this situation which she herself does not understand yet. They come from different backgrounds. She finally believed that the kundli that calls her a Bhagonwali may just be true, but Guddu may scoff at such things. Based on that, she may also believe what the Baba tells her and Guddu is likely to brush it off. I can get that... its just that I am dissapointed because Guddu has proven over and over that even when he gets angry he still listens to her and that her feeling are of prime importance to him. Even if he initially brushes it off, he has come around many times just because he knows it matters to her and her feelings matter to him. If there is one person he listens to it is Runjhun - he completeley changed for her... In the 30 day challenge, he considered what she said and came around because it rang true for him.. . Doesn't he desrves the respect of having a say about the situation so personal to him. In fact what Runjhun doesn't know is that Guddu is noticing the pattern in the incidences (eg bags, glass breaking etc) Don't you think Runjhun herself is being reactive right now?
I understand that she needs time right now and I am completely ok with that but I would not think it fair for her to take his choice away and deciding to separate herself without him having a say. Being martyr may sound grand but is usually not healthy. It is one thing to distance herself physically but to give no explanation especially now since the love confession...This would be like taking out the rug from under him. It is important for her to consider what Guddu must feel like. Impulsive though he is, he often shows incredible sensitivity and balanced view. Can you imagine how confused and scared Guddu must feel.. the anger is just a cover for a man who feels deeply.
Guddu is teaching Runjhun to stand up for herself and be who she really has the potential to be. He wants to build her confidence and not fall for anyone or anything that shakes her core beliefs. In his mind, she should be able to take care of herself regardless of whether he is around or not. This will be one of the mini-tracks in this overarching Baba track. Definitely. I love that he holds a big vision for her that she can step into. Although she hasn't done it recently before ME, she herself did during the 30 day challenge see his potential also - i.e confidence that he could be succesful at a mobile centre .. when he went for the interview - she said he would get it on his own merit.
I believe that the overarching Baba track will be one of believing something in blind faith. Both will reach a compromise on how far they are willing to go in their beliefs and what they can or cannot do. It is all about the meeting of the minds, souls and ultimately the body. when This is where I think the current track will go. That makes sense.. that's a good subject for CVs to explore and it will be interesting. That's why this "Bhaag" based story has potential beyond run of the mill saas-bahu serials.
After all this is a serial and there will be plenty of melodrama in the process. yes there is that😉
My fervent wish is for the Creative team to treat this storyline with the same uniqueness I have witnessed all along. I do not want to see any over-the-top stuff nor do I want them to killl the 2 beloved characters for me in the process. I am with you on that

Hi Gardes, You capture your thoughts together in such an eloquent well-considered package which always make me question my own views. I very much value your perspective so thank you for responding to my post. Thank You. My notes are imbedded in your post above
Edited by eternalasha - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Thanks for your response EA. I appreciate you taking time to discuss...
I understand your disappointment today for Runjhun being secretive and evasive. There are reasons for that from the character viewpoint and the story viewpoint.
From the character viewpoint, at this point even Runjhun has not had time to absorb the implication of what Baba told her at the Shiv mandir. She needs to understand what it could all mean. Wouldn't fear be the first reaction for all of us until logic starts to take hold? I think this team has explored emotions over other things all along. Yeah they have not always been that successful in putting emotions across all the time but I would say most of the time. I think emotions will again come into play between the two.
Having said that, here is the story perspective... The story is always revealed bit by bit to the reader or the audience. If all of it is put out there all at once the show has limited potential. Also today was the first day of the track and Friday's cliffhanger was a necessity as well. So the drama had to be introduced. I think in this track there will be fewer misunderstandings between the two but plenty of talking at cross-purposes. By that I mean that there are so many events that they will think one is talking of the other, but both will be fully engaged. Atleast that is my wishful thinking. And that is why I want to wait and watch before I blast at the Creative team.
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Posted: 14 years ago
BTW EA, discussions should never question one's perspective but to take into consideration someone else's perspective along with your own.
Please do not question yours ever again.
And also, I am glad you get what I am trying to say becasue at times I have a hard time putting my thoughts across to myself! 😆
Edited by gardes - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: luvsagar

Azuria

I understand what you are saying of two different mind sets. However, I would just like the CVs bring it out in the open so both are aware of the situation whether they choose to argue over how to handle it is different altogether. i don't want Guddu to be shown to think that Runjhun's love is not true and doubting it because she is pulling away from taking their relationship to the next level.
At this point i would like Guddu's mother to enter in order to strengthen Runjhun's position and find a solution (like the test/vrat/whatever that she has to do to dissipate the bad stars in her kundli)
i will keep faith in the meantime that the CVs will play this tack out without character butchering!
Nina



luvsager thanks for saying whats on your mind. I do not question what you are saying but just want to say that we viewers have watched BBAT for a longer time then the time in the serial has passed. I mean they have 2 and half day every week and we have a week. In that manner Guddu and Runjhun have not been married more then two and a half month by now while for us it is five months. We think that by this time (five month) Runjhun should have understood Guddu better and belive him. That they have a solid relationship. For me it seem not possible. Even if you have a love marriage and start living with someone without the close family demanding your attention all the time. Two months are very short period of time to understand your partner full out and know him or her inn and out.

Guddus love is totaly different then Runjhuns love. Guddu love her and now is not in the mind set to doubt her. Even if the circulstances put it so. Since he knows that her mama mami are able to manipulate her in different situations. He has said about it in many ways that she should not blame her all the times. That sometime things happen. He also knows that if Runjhun had not called him he would have been a dead man. So he will start thinking about her being his gaurdian angel. Like he is to her.

That knowledge will be abel to help him understand her fears since there are other factors that make is possible the presume danger to his life. But I still have doubt if Runjhun will belive that Mitho arranged for Guddus murder. Thats the only fear I have since its very little time that she is away from them and even if she is told will doubt she did that about her amma as well.

I am just mumbling.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: gardes

Thanks for your response EA. I appreciate you taking time to discuss...

I understand your disappointment today for Runjhun being secretive and evasive. There are reasons for that from the character viewpoint and the story viewpoint.
From the character viewpoint, at this point even Runjhun has not had time to absorb the implication of what Baba told her at the Shiv mandir. She needs to understand what it could all mean. Wouldn't fear be the first reaction for all of us until logic starts to take hold? Absolutely, understandable and even expected. Runjhun however has had a tendency to mul things over and over in her head and until they blow out of proporation. The mind is not a good place to stay for long. It n eeds to meld with the heart or be shared (again a heart action) I think this team has explored emotions over other things all along. Yeah they have not always been that successful in putting emotions across all the time but I would say most of the time. I think emotions will again come into play between the two. The exploring of emotions is good as long as they don't indulge in misunderstaning and evasiveness for too long. I hope instead that they explore avenues that strenghten their relationship via dialogue
Having said that, here is the story perspective... The story is always revealed bit by bit to the reader or the audience. If all of it is put out there all at once the show has limited potential. Also today was the first day of the track and Friday's cliffhanger was a necessity as well. So the drama had to be introduced. Fair enough - it is a serial too after all I think in this track there will be fewer misunderstandings between the two but plenty of talking at cross-purposes. By that I mean that there are so many events that they will think one is talking of the other, but both will be fully engaged. Don't quite get that - Can you explain? Atleast that is my wishful thinking. And that is why I want to wait and watch before I blast at the Creative team.

Thanks for your response Gardes - good points.. see my comments/question above.
In your second post, ..."BTW EA, discussions should never question one's perspective but to take into consideration someone else's perspective along with your own."
Really Really like that - Wise words - Eloquently said
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: azuria

Not mumbling at all azuria, some good points. Lage Raho

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