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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: umayal

Hai Kool Di,

Well Said Di.👏 👏. we as a Majority have to ask for a character change in both Manav and archu for the betterment of their character. Currently they Suck is the truth.

I haven't seen the last friday epi, but seeing your review, it seems archu's scene with D' family as a bahu was really good and heart rendering. so I would like to watch the first part.

This is what I wish to see.Archu as a bahu,Vahini and Mother. Hope all these happens in the upcoming epi's rather than archu as daughter and sister alone. Hopefully wish that sulo's track is over and she doesn't create any more dramas.


I suggest that we all as a forum , come together on this issue by keeping our differences aside and ASK for this change in Manav , as a way for counter balancing the robotic craze Archu has for Sulo's teachings . This way we MAY be able to save Soham from going to Varsha and we may save a lot of LOSS to Archu's life . Coz what this secretary track is leading o is JAIL for Manav , poverty AGAIN in Archus life and NO SOHAM .
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Posted: 14 years ago
Kool Di, I am in. 😊. Nice suggestion. And truly the wanted result.

As a end result if the robotic craze that archu has for her spoilt sisters and selfish mom will go and the cutie soham will be in archu's hands and he will be with ARMAN,Then I am 100% for it.
And its about Archu's life and she living her life with her husband and kids, then 👍🏼 from my side.


Edited by umayal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
May be this secretary track is needed to put fire under Archu's Butt. May be ArMan both will take his job more seriously. If boss's wife can notice Manav's job is being affected due to his personal life, some day DK will notice it too.Manav really needs to focus on his job and Archu at home front abt kids and Ils.

Kools I am all in for support of the cause. Hope Manav puts his foot down and CVs show some change. I want Manav to be assertive with Archu and Archu with Ks.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

May be this secretary track is needed to put fire under Archu's Butt. May be ArMan both will take his job more seriously. If boss's wife can notice Manav's job is being affected due to his personal life, some day DK will notice it too.Manav really needs to focus on his job and Archu at home front abt kids and Ils.

Kools I am all in for support of the cause. Hope Manav puts his foot down and CVs show some change. I want Manav to be assertive with Archu and Archu with Ks.


When Manav is assertive with Archu , Archu will automatically RE THINK about her actions and she will then start saying NO to the K's for their incessant denmands on her TIME .

But for this , Archu Fans have to say YES . Then we can talk to CVS . But first all have to agree .

Coz this time , Many common grievances r there .

Manav Fans do NOT like a wishywashy YES MAN Manav . if u note , many ardent Manav fans have STOPPED coming to forum .

Archu fans do NOT want Soham given to Varsha .

ARMAN fans too do not want that .

We the ODD ONES 😆[ Na idhar ke na udhar ke } do NOT want The leads to lose child , money , and go BACK to being poor AGAIN . Also , PLEASE , NO JAIL yet again .

So ALL shud agree is my suggestion .
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

I want Manav to be assertive with Archu and Archu with Ks.



Exactly the one I wish to see and want to happen. when Archu was wrong Manav should tell her and same goes with archu too. particularly in case of K's she needs to learn to say No.

And as Kool Di said,I too think its interrelated. Surely when Manav is strong in that, then archu too as to reconsider her thoughts and the ways she uses. So definitely she will learn to say No to that K's tamashas only when Manav is strong in that.


Edited by umayal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


We the ODD ONES 😆[ Na idhar ke na udhar ke } do NOT want The leads to lose child , money , and go BACK to being poor AGAIN . Also , PLEASE , NO JAIL yet again .

So ALL shud agree is my suggestion .



Ok Us the ODD ONES 😆 want Balanced relationship between the leads and their respective families Why has PR become all about Karanjkars and Archu?? 😳😡

PR is supposed to be about ArMan and their kids 😃


I had suspected about a 4-5 wks ago that there is Fatichar Mannu in future if things don't get corrected. I do not want SOham given to Varsha.

While they will show Manav being Assertive with Archu he needs to be extremely assertive with Varsha, Manju, Rassi and FBD and right there next to him telling these people off should be Archana herself.

How can I forget Queen B Sulo 😲😲 She needs the biggest bhashan from both ArMan abt her hypocracy. She needs to stop controlling Archu period. 😡

Archu has let so many off scotfree and created monsters.

Pls bring our old savita back who was feisty...Keep loving Archu but bring your zest back woman.


Pls give viewers ArMan, Sachu-Soham family scenes having fun playing, reading story book. spending a wknd day together and enjoying as a family..
😃
Edited by Dabulls23 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
It is with a great deal of hesitation that I am penning my thoughts here as a response to the critique of Archana's character previously.
I do not agree for a minute that manav's character was somehow made weak/ butchered for propping up Archana. Every character in this saga has shown different shades ( both strengths and weaknesses) at different times and why should Archana or her fans be blamed for the portrayal of Manav. They do not write his character!
Archana is crying for her mother, for God's sake. When it comes to our parents, especially when they are in trouble, do we really sit and analyse whether they were good or bad as persons?
Archana was initially shown to be under her mother's shadow totally and eventually came out of it when she took a stand for Manav at different times. As ringside viewers, we are entitled to find fault with Sulochana's thoughts but can Archana have an objective view? Even till now both Archana and Manav tolerate indulgently Damodar's drinking habits or Savita's current antics because beyond a certain point perhaps one cannot do anything! This is true in reality also.
I also fail to see how Archana is neglecting her Sasural for her maika. When was this shown? Because Vandita came to look after Damodar in the hospital?
I will not talk of Archana's role in Soham's case again as it has been discussed so many times. As a mother of a colic baby who used to cry harshly and continuously at any time, I can re-live the feeling of inadequacy as a mother which I used to feel during those times! The innumerable times I wept along with her out of sheer helplessness and frustration ! Does not mean that I loved her less or wanted to give her away.
Please let me make it clear, I do not want to start a battle here. I only want to state that the same writers who are writing manav's case are writing Archana's. So why blame her or her fans for everything in PR which is not liked? If Manav has been criticized by some, so has Archana by others in the harshest terms. But that is Ok.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23



Ok Us the ODD ONES 😆 want Balanced relationship between the leads and their respective families Why has PR become all about Karanjkars and Archu?? 😳😡

PR is supposed to be about ArMan and their kids 😃


I had suspected about a 4-5 wks ago that there is Fatichar Mannu in future if things don't get corrected. I do not want SOham given to Varsha.

While they will show Manav being Assertive with Archu he needs to be extremely assertive with Varsha, Manju, Rassi and FBD and right there next to him telling these people off should be Archana herself.

She has let so many off scotfree and created monsters.

Pls bring our old savita back who was pfisty...Keep loving Archu but bring your zest back woman.


Pls give viewers ArMan, Sachu-Soham family scenes having fun playing, reading story book. spending a wknd day together and enjoying as a family..
😃



Varsha Di, totally agree with each word of your post and totally love the parts in Green and the underline one. if archu herself would do that, that was the happiest day in PR for me.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ptecvish

It is with a great deal of hesitation that I am penning my thoughts here as a response to the critique of Archana's character previously.

I do not agree for a minute that manav's character was somehow made weak/ butchered for propping up Archana. Every character in this saga has shown different shades ( both strengths and weaknesses) at different times and why should Archana or her fans be blamed for the portrayal of Manav. They do not write his character!
Archana is crying for her mother, for God's sake. When it comes to our parents, especially when they are in trouble, do we really sit and analyse whether they were good or bad as persons?
Archana was initially shown to be under her mother's shadow totally and eventually came out of it when she took a stand for Manav at different times. As ringside viewers, we are entitled to find fault with Sulochana's thoughts but can Archana have an objective view? Even till now both Archana and Manav tolerate indulgently Damodar's drinking habits or Savita's current antics because beyond a certain point perhaps one cannot do anything! This is true in reality also.
I also fail to see how Archana is neglecting her Sasural for her maika. When was this shown? Because Vandita came to look after Damodar in the hospital?
I will not talk of Archana's role in Soham's case again as it has been discussed so many times. As a mother of a colic baby who used to cry harshly and continuously at any time, I can re-live the feeling of inadequacy as a mother which I used to feel during those times! The innumerable times I wept along with her out of sheer helplessness and frustration ! Does not mean that I loved her less or wanted to give her away.
Please let me make it clear, I do not want to start a battle here. I only want to state that the same writers who are writing manav's case are writing Archana's. So why blame her or her fans for everything in PR which is not liked? If Manav has been criticized by some, so has Archana by others in the harshest terms. But that is Ok.


First and foremost ...You have misunderstood My whole Post and objective .

The objective was NOT blaming Archu fans . The objective was COMING TOGETHER by keeping differences aside and asking for all what we want as a common goal ...Seeing ARMAN with their child and NOT being in POVERTY again . We truly have had ENOUGH of THAT .

Let us not even GO INTO the issue of whether Manav WAS butchered for glorifying Archana or NOT . You do not believe it is so . Fine . Maybe Many do . Fine to that too . I don't . I DO believe he was butchered as these shows r female Lead Shows targeted for female audiences . They have a certain serial formula and Ekta herself firmly reiterates that HER shows r run on FORMULA . My point is , some viewers like me believe HE WAS BUTCHERED . Even That is fine . The KEY ISSUE is not this at all .

Whether he was butchered for Archana or not is irrelevant .

Whether Archana should be shown THIS involved in her maika that she is willing to NEGLECT her children by giving them away to Varsha or not is also DEBATABLE .But again , that too isn't the point .We can debate about that LATER .

Nobody is even debating about whether Archana should be OBJECTIVE or SUBJECTIVE here . Infact ALL agree that she indeed WILL be subjective and hence Manav is needed to be firm to put her on the right path and tell her to focus on her children as they should at no cost be given to VARSHA .

Members like Tanya who have been faithful appreciators of this show are seriously considering LEAVING it if this gifting Soham away track continues . That made me do that post ...as She said that Manav should fire Archana if she does that .

I pointed out that MANY Archu Fans may not like it . I did not blame them .It was an objective statement . And WHY should they ?They are after all HER fans and they might feel HURT if his tone is HARSH . This is but NATURAL .

But over the discussions in these past few weeks with fans like Tanya , Omana , Usha etc I understood one thing ...NOBODY wants Soham given away and even THEY are not liking it that Manav is not more assertive . As They fully understand that Archu CANNOT be objective as you said .

So I came up with a suggestion that lets All Get together and demand TOGETHER . By keeping OTHER debates ASIDE .

This was my POV , bas . I was hesitating to say so precisely due to the risk of it being MISINTERPRETED , just like it was . But I went ahead and suggested it anyways as I did not want Tanya to leave the Show .

I hope I make myself clear now ?😊 We can drop the suggestion if u want , but I want to make one thing clear ...no one is blaming ANY Archu fans here . Whats there to blame in pursuing a common objective ?😕





Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23



Ok Us the ODD ONES 😆 want Balanced relationship between the leads and their respective families Why has PR become all about Karanjkars and Archu?? 😳😡


I totally agree! This is what has become annoying, there is no longer any balance between the Deshmukhs and Karanjkars, before Archana used to be shown bonding with her in laws now is so busy with her family's drama that she hardly spends anytime with her in laws or children for that matter.

PR is supposed to be about ArMan and their kids 😃

Thank you! PR is a hit because of ArMan, viewers are interested in their story not the Karanjkars! The CVs are constantly doing this, the show doesn't focus enough of ArMan's love story or their kids for that matter.



I had suspected about a 4-5 wks ago that there is Fatichar Mannu in future if things don't get corrected. I do not want SOham given to Varsha.

I don't see why Varsha can't be shown moving on with her life and eventually adopting a child of her own, wasn't that the plan before the leap? It was ridiculous to have the baby giving track and it would be a disaster to go there again.

While they will show Manav being Assertive with Archu he needs to be extremely assertive with Varsha, Manju, Rassi and FBD and right there next to him telling these people off should be Archana herself.

I wish Archana was written with more backbone to her character, I loved the way she handled Vinod and Manju after finding out what they did to her mother. When I saw her in those scenes I was reminded of when Archana let Rasika and Ajit have it for humiliating Savita, I remembered the time she let Manju have it for using Sulochana and having her work as a maid. I want to see more of that side to Archana, instead of the forgiving Archana who lets people walk all over her repeatedly. Manju, Dharmesh, Varsha don't deserve the time of day given what they've done. Archana really needs to be shown wiser

How can I forget Queen B Sulo 😲😲 She needs the biggest bhashan from both ArMan abt her hypocracy. She needs to stop controlling Archu period. 😡

I want Savita to confront Sulochana for taking advantage of her daughter all these years, she has repeatedly cheated Archana out of having a life for herself. This is the perfect time for Savita to get back at Sulochana and give her a reality check


Archu has let so many off scotfree and created monsters.

This really needs to change, Archana's character would not suffer if she kept her distance from Dharmesh, Manju, Varsha. She would be completely justified in doing so, she has no reason to be so forgiving towards those who never learn their lesson.

Pls bring our old savita back who was pfisty...Keep loving Archu but bring your zest back woman.


Savita is still fiesty, that hasn't changed but I wish she would have a talk with Archana about speaking up for herself and stop letting people manipulate and take advantage of her. I am sure Savita can get through to Archana in a way she'll understand

Pls give viewers ArMan, Sachu-Soham family scenes having fun playing, reading story book. spending a wknd day together and enjoying as a family..
😃
I am waiting to see what will happen this week. I really want to see Archana with her sons, especially Soham since I find their scenes to be adorable. Even better would be to see Manav bonding with Soham, like you said have him read a book to Soham or playing with him something which shows him bonding with his son.

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