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Posted: 15 years ago

Hahaha its okay no worries jaan 🤗

Oh yes Asma don't remind me of that look on his face it upset me so much to see him shattered. Now Nivi needs to cure him shower him with love make show him that VIREN MATTERS!!

same here i wish that they leave together and live somewhere on their own and Nivi gets him out of this trauma.

Jaan you know a source which i read today states that Viren will be mad at everyone and will avoid them and Nivi and Chanchal will help cure Viren. Sid and Nivi's whole attention will be on Viren x
Yes i think she does need to shower him with love and care and show him that he 'belongs' with her. I think he needs a sense of belonging somewhere because he's never had that, always been drifting..
I hope they leave but i don't think they will Yep I did read the article and from it, it sounds like they will stay? Do u think CC will start to see Nivi in a better light now when she sees her support Viren? I really hope that she (CC this is) supports him tomorrow as well, u can see that she loves her son but don't know if she has it in her to stand up 4 him... As a mother he should be her priority and she should protect him now even if she didnt all these years!
On a total other note, my lil sister walked in while i was watching the epi to ask me if i wanted pizza (as if i would want PIZZA at that time??!) Anyway, she saw i was upset and when she found out why, the heartless girl ROLLED HER EYES!! I told her if i ever got rich i'd disown her and cut her off and kicked her out my room LOL 😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Anisha_91

Right i'l be off now might be back later. Bye Asma di (btw can i call you di?)


Take care everyone bye love you all x

Byee sweetie, will try and come online earlier tomorrow so chat to u then 🤗
and of course u can call me di jaan xx
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: savera2007

@ Anju:


At the moment Viren is so shattered that he ONLY needs Nivi. The kind of love and compassion she can give wholeheartedly, no else in the Sood family can do it :(

But Abidah don't you think that more than Nivi's love he needs overall family love and acceptance? He has doubts about his family and that is why his hatred is towards Sid and family. He said Bhupat Rai Sood ke ghar mein sab achhe log rahte hain.. So I am thinking he needs a family and Nivi is part of his family. Even if Nivi accepts him (he knows that yes she will), family acceptance will have a greater impact on him.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: anjubala

But Abidah don't you think that more than Nivi's love he needs overall family love and acceptance? He has doubts about his family and that is why his hatred is towards Sid and family. He said Bhupat Rai Sood ke ghar mein sab achhe log rahte hain.. So I am thinking he needs a family and Nivi is part of his family. Even if Nivi accepts him (he knows that yes she will), family acceptance will have a greater impact on him.


See that is the problem... We are always too quick. He needs to be stable. Ya he loved Nivi, trusts her and tells her everything. BUT

Is Viren 100 % convinced about Nivi loves him too? She is 100 % over Sid and she belongs 100 % to Viren?

No, a part of him has his doubts still on her. That is why today he said, I do not need you and later he said that they have sent u to fetch me up. Like he cannot believe that she came all by herself for him to get him home.


These kind of traumas are healed with time with family that is SUPPORTIVE and not OVERPROTECTIVE as the article is mentioned. For example, they do not eat karela at home because Sid doesn't like it and tomorrow if they just of the blue cooks it, does it look like genuine? No it does not.

Se in order to settle things we human beings often take wrong decision. Never make a decision in anger or while u are sad and never rush to show other person how u feel about him when he himself tells u that u have let me down.

In Nivis case.... the whole sequence once again. they changed the location, Nivi gave room to Viren but everytime TODAY she "forced" him to come home, he got more angry and stubborn. Give him time and let him feel that people wants to KNOW about him. U cannot just impose "We are going to make everything right, from one day to another just like that.

Virens needs Nivi most at the moment. He trusts her and wants to feel loved by her 110 %. Once this relationsship is made strong then believe me 100 % other relationships can come along side by side without them doing anything.

But the way I think this serial is going to go with living in the same house with hatred etc. It doesn't help. Viren has PTSD post-traumatic stress-syndrome and it takes a long time to cure it. Sometime mediciation and sometime it requires psychologist, who can tell how to conquer one's anger etc.

Secondly these kind of people are VERY demanding. It takes the full energy of the family and every family is not ready for it. I have seen this kind of patients. Many live alone because the family cannot handle their aggreesion etc.

Question is if u wanna break Viren more or u want to make him a human being as he should have been? If the family has been through separation from Viren willingly before, why not now, when he needs that most? This doesn't mean that they cannot visit eachother, but Viren needs to have things which he gets on his own. His own mehnat, not because Sid is overprotective.

People are overprotective because of two reasons a) They feel guilty and b) they do not trust the other persons capabilities.

I demand actually CTs to take a good look at PTSD (these patients can become psychotic if things get severe) and then go through with the storyline with that. MANY people have PTSD nowadays and it is quite common and a kind of social message could be send to the community as well that having a mental illness like PTSD, depression etc. is not like being mad/psychotic.

Well that is what I feel and think and people can differ as they want to :)
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Posted: 15 years ago
Another thing I want to add is that no matter what happend last few months, ONE thing have been persistent,

Viren wants the assurance from Nivi, does she love me? More than she have loved Sid? Have she forgot Sid? He is possessive and obsessive and that is something which no one should ignore, especially Nivi

Personally I do not have the feel getting to know how and when did Viren plan to the things like stalking etc.

See this is the charm of Virens character, he is mysterious. He knows what is inside him and he was 100 % right when he told Nivi that you will be able to know me completely, because he is used to be alone. Nivi will know him best, but not 100 %

Personally I feel that charm of Virens character will vanish if get to know EVERYTHING because he is surprising and if everything isn't disclosed, who knows when he suprise us again ;)
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Posted: 15 years ago
Wow, Abidah!! 🤗 Loved your post on PTSD! 👏 Excellent diagnosis! And, you have explained it so well. I really really wish the CTs actually apply this syndrome literally in Viren's sceanrio and take the story futher accordingly.
I have a request for you. 😊 Would you please post this post of yours in a seperate thread in the forum?? I think, it is absolutely imperative that this is made visible to the CTs.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Wow Savera what a wonderful post I loved you really explained Nivi and Viren well also their childhood. If I say everything come back to same stage.
If we think from Viren's point of view as a child for him 3 persons were most important behind whom he use to run DS, Sid and Nivi. He loved three of them and wanted attention from 3 of them. He remembered all of them whereas everyone else forgot him this show the intensity of love he had for them.
DS he said that day to keshav as a father you will be angry and couldn't forgive Nivi but as a human you will understand she also had a reason for that. But in case of Viren he failed to apply that logic he always saw his fault and he became Victim of DS strictness in childhood though DS loved Viren verymuch but couldn't see his pain in childhood.
In a same way like Nivi became Victim of Keshav strictness and Sid became Victim of VD strictness now days though both Keshav and Vandana loves Nivi and Sid very much but they were not able to see the pain in last few months.
He sent Viren to boarding school away from family in childhood and Chanchal couldn't do anything in a same way when Sid had to marry Divya due to manipulations of Chanchal and VD and DS couldn't do anything for that.
Sid was always very good never thought bad for other intentionally but hurt them unintentionally. I understand at time when all these things happen with Viren in childhood even Sid was child but he also had his own share of mistakes. He did ignore Viren as a child though Viren use to run behind him. He teared the kite because he felt Sid is angry on him because of kite. This show how much he loved Sid and wanted his attention too. Other thing if you remember 2 incidents where complains came regarding Viren Sid was present there like school he won the match and he knew other person mocked Viren which made him angry, second during apple incident Sid also knew Viren aimed apple only. But he didn't try to defend him. I am not finding fault in Sid or saying he had done anything wrong but couldn't support Viren. He always lacked that power speak and defend innocent when they are blamed in front of his eyes. In childhood Viren was victim and in adulthood Nivi became the Victim. When these things happened to Viren then even Sid was young so it's no big deal but happen to Nivi was in adulthood and it became Sid's weakness. When Viren was sent away from family then everyone was young and no one even remember Viren when they grow up.

Nivi was too young at that time to understand what's going around her and everyone has their friends. She also was engrossed in Sid and never saw Viren (Viren was literally hurt by that). Both Sid and Nivi ignored Viren in childhood and hurt him very unintentionally though they genuinely loved Viren but today they were hurting each other in a same way though genuinely loved each other and had loss each other to their own cousins. If we see the trend Divya never remembered anyone still she was important to all but Sid and Nivi remember each other and Divya too and forgot about Viren. Viren remembered all of them when everyone actually forgot him.
Three of them had beared the loss in their childhood Viren was sent to boarding away from the compelete family where no one went to even meet him, Sid lost his father at such a young age and had to see the humilation of his mother, Nivi lost her mother at young age and had to bear her father ignorance.
Logically 3 of them suffered like Viren to the world have everything his parents, GP, Tayiji, brother and best friend all loved him very much and no one thought ill about him but everyone failed to show that affection towards him. He was left alone like child who has lots of food but can't eat it or have water but can't drink it. More than loving someone it is necessary to show him also. This condition is very painful because no one actually understands your loss, emptiness, need, pain or takes you seriously. They think you are spoiled and immature despite of having everything you are complaining about your problems. They show you other kids whose lose bigger than you. But that loneliness, pain and unwantedness, untrust of other break a kid from inside is never seen to anyone and worst is the case when you even can't show them your pain on your face.
Sid he lost his father and his mother was humilated and chacha chachi always had ill plans for you. But his emptiness, pain, need was understood by his Grandparents and mother and he was showered with love and care. Though visibly his problem is bigger but he had his family to fight with it. He could actually share or speakout in lap of his mother and tell her his problems and pains.
Nivi lost her mother and his father ignored her, chacha chachi were too selfish to care about her but she also had her Grandmother who single handedly not only raised her but erase all her pains with love and care. Her pain, emptiness, need was also understood and was visible to her gramdmother. She could also cry on her loss.
Viren's actions can be justified till wedding to Nivi though we can understand his anger but his actions after wedding were not justifiable. But he really deserves a second chance to rectify all his mistakes which he made in his anger or hatred.
Edited by Cutie-NivRen - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
At last but not at least,

When Nivi has become so much bold and strong as she mentioned in front of Viren, then for God's sake CTs stop make her crying and show her weak, but let us see the product which Virens love and stalking incidence has produced....

Let the Nivi who is 110 % like Viren come in front of the viewers and let us enjoy the journey of two souls who are lost in eachother compeltely, but have to fight the world together. Because this is not Nivi's journey only, but it is NiVren's journey and I want to see them together against the world to show the world the how two familie ugly ducklinhgs have become swans because of the love they have for eachother while the world have showered stones of hatred towards them.

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Posted: 15 years ago
Hi everyone, I have not watched the episode yet coz I am at work. I am on my lunch break and have been reading everyones post and I have to say its pretty amazing.
Wow Rach, that was an amazing analysis. Loved it. 👏 I hope Sid will finally overcome his silent quality...its just causing too much pain to the people who love him and whom he loves. He did not speak up for Nivi but is he going to speak up for his brother Viren (whom he claims to love). Sounds like Nivi is already showing qualities of a strong woman.
I have to go now...as lunch is over but will be online later and will definately post my POV afterr watchin the episode. Keep smiling everyone...seems like the moon is ready to come out from behind the clouds.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ Payal: Request fulfilled...

@ Cutie-nivRen: Excellent post yaar... Loved it ;)

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