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carpe-diem

@carpe-diem

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#171

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

that is the reason why I am not taking part in this discussion ...

Every situation is different and it is a very painful and a sad thing to happen ..

Tanya di, very true.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#172

Oh I agree . But I am speaking strictly from what I saw of Varsha and many exactly like her . I repeated in all posts that my views r not for aLL women at all . In the Varsha Satish case I side with Satish the Male , not this so called suppressed female at all .I observed here that the poor man was suppressed for a long time . His job was pandering to her whims and making her happy . Felt very sad for him .This may sound very childish to u guys coming from me but sometimes i wish i was part of a Mens Only Club opened to oppose 'convenient feminists' like Varsha and I would lawyer on the men's behalf with my own kind as i know my own kind only too well . In short simple language , I wud fight on the behalf of the men . Dolls , all of them , horribly decent , without a clue asto HOW to handle strong headed wives like Varsha . Wud have given em some tips 😉 and wud have LOVED tearing those feminists to shreds😆 . Men like Satish ROCK . Muvaa to em and 👎🏼 to women like Varsha . There , I cudnt be blunt enough , off to my cleaning

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago

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--Hope--

@--Hope--

Rocker

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Posted: 15 years ago

#173

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Oh I agree . But I am speaking strictly from what I saw of Varsha and many exactly like her . I repeated in all posts that my views r not for aLL women at all . In the Varsha Satish case I side with Satish the Male , not this so called suppressed female at all .I observed here that the poor man was suppressed for a long time . His job was pandering to her whims and making her happy . Felt very sad for him .This may sound very childish to u guys coming from me but sometimes i wish i was part of a Mens Only Club opened to oppose 'convenient feminists' like Varsha and I would lawyer on the men's behalf with my own kind as i know my own kind only too well . In short simple language , I wud fight on the behalf of the men . Dolls , all of them , horribly decent , without a clue asto HOW to handle strong headed wives like Varsha . Wud have given em some tips 😉 and wud have LOVED tearing those feminists to shreds😆 . Men like Satish ROCK . Muvaa to em and 👎🏼 to women like Varsha . There , I cudnt be blunt enough , off to my cleaning

I can never forget the HAUNTED look on his face when Sulo and all were being told and then the BETRAYED QUESTIONING look on his face when she tried to connect with him before she left in the bedroom

Kools you know I saw this movie once. the guy was held down and made to watch his new bride raped by the landlord. it was set in the 14th century or something the man was pinned down and forced to watch. this was another being he loved, he cherished, someone that gave him joy being violated in the MOST DESPICABLE HORRENDOUS UNIMAGINABLE manner. he could nothing as he was helpless to react or defend. that man had the same HAUNTED LOOK during the heinous act and after. I can imagine that the wife WHO WAS ACTUALLY VIOLATED was hurt emotionally physically and mentally beyond what we could imagine yet that man who wanted to but couldn't protect and had his will taken away from him was in a bigger hell that day.

In an abortion situation as depicted with Varsha, the emotional scars of the man will be fresh and last longer than the physcial scars that the woman received during abortion.

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carpe-diem

@carpe-diem

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#174

I agree with you to an extant Kools. I agree with the fact that what Varsha did was wrong, but she made a choice...ok to each his or her own.

i find it very interesting that you are looking at it from Satish's point of you and how he was wronged. So your dislike for the character is for the fact that she wronged Satish?

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--Hope--

@--Hope--

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 15 years ago

#175

Originally posted by: carpe-diem
I agree with you to an extant Kools. I agree with the fact that what Varsha did was wrong, but she made a choice...ok to each his or her own.

i find it very interesting that you are looking at it from Satish's point of you and how he was wronged. So your dislike for the character is for the fact that she wronged Satish?

carpe:

I think it is not just satish though immediate support does go there.

but it is all the collateral damage that went with her one decision

as far as her choice - this can be argued. I think considering her situation this was not her choice to make but was a choice for both parents to make

this child did not come out of a one night stand or a rape. this child came out of equal and committed relationship and was the creation of love not pure lust. I am not speaking from a faith perspective because I know of many aethiests who would also find Varsha's decision and action unpalatable and unpardonable. i am speaking from a human perspective that any humane -aetheist or not, young or old, male or female, married or single can relate to

Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago

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carpe-diem

@carpe-diem

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#176

Yes Hope i agree with you. i dislike Varsha actions, but my sympathies for Satish is not a factor, and that is why i blame the creatives for being morons to show such a thing.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#177

I understand Hope . And thats what is my biggest objection .................this tomtomming of Only the female has emotions and taking the Man's silence for granted . Just because Men rarely cry , r by nature inherently silent and less vociferous about their emotions compared to women , less expressive , doesn't mean they are WITHOUT EMOTIONS .and that having emotions and Expressing them in strong words is only the prerogative of women in such marraiges . No one would call me the type to submissively take domination from any man ...........But I would hate bullying someone as much as I would HATE being bullied . Bullying makes me angry and uncomfortable .............it doesn't matter if it is done by a MAN or a WOMAN . I speak very strongly against chauvinism but this kind of convenient feminism puts me totally off . . I saw Varsha happy at all times only when SHE had her way . I never saw her attempting to understand Satish or returning his love . I saw a self absorbed woman . Its not hostility against intellectual females that I have ............far from it as i consider myself on par with them . But does being intellectual or feminist mean Loss of understanding or Love on a female's part ? Cannot a woman with feminist views be understanding , loving , unselfish and fair ? It has nothing to do with being subservient AT aLL . Giving Men HELL is nOT feminism . Taking away their mental peace isnt feminism .

And what feminism yaar , for all her talks she wanted to come and plonk herself at her maayka after being kicked out of sasural . Right ........now go and take away the mental peace of ur aged parents . Poor dears they did their bit , Now they need to be saddled with the innumerable problems of their offsprings who are just not GROWING UP . Is this progress ? When will their old bones ever get some true rest ? If ur truly independent , take responsibility for ur actions and live ALONE . This is sheer SPOILT behaviour .

Constantly saying MY GUSSA IS ONLY SUCH , MY GUSSA IS ONLY SUCH is simply pampering your negative emotions unduly . Archana is currently defending Varshas case under this excuse ........That Varshas Anger is only such . Arre what , is this an excuse ? All 3 sisters r sitting home at maayka without earning their bread butter and weeping profusely , having made a royal mess of their lives with their own decisions . The poor Father and Mother have no other job but to watch the endless tragedies of their stupid offsprings . The only normal one seems to be Vinod who has a wife who consistently does job and has two children and who decided not to give up her marraige and head for divorce like ARchana who did it for a supposedly NOBLE purpose .Varsha of course would LOVE to head wfor SPLITSVILLE , fire breathing down her feminist nostrils and Vaishu's idea of a problem with husband is running away to MAAYKa so he shud come there to fetch her and SHOW HIS LOVE . Instead of taking what he says seriously and getting fired up enough to mAKE SOMETHING OUT OF HER LIFE and show him as a woman to prove him wrong ........that no , women r succesful at what they do too . Ufff . Off to my cleaning again .

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#178

Originally posted by: carpe-diem
I agree with you to an extant Kools. I agree with the fact that what Varsha did was wrong, but she made a choice...ok to each his or her own.

i find it very interesting that you are looking at it from Satish's point of you and how he was wronged. So your dislike for the character is for the fact that she wronged Satish?

My dislike for her actions is for the fact she wronged a DECENT man , a DECENT HUMAN .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

Stunner

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Posted: 15 years ago

#179

Although I dont condone Abortion but dont judge it generally on moral grounds as there are instances where Abortion may be the best answer for the baby and the parents As Hopester has mentioned b4...Until someone is in that situation one does not know how it is...We all can make judgements as they are easy for us b/c we are on the other side of the fence looking in...Not speaking from looking at PR and Varsha's decision but on a general level...

About abortion no one is completely unbiased as their personal beliefs, morals and experiences play part conciously or subconciously...Tough call..

Euthanisia is the only way most dogs go orthey get hit by a car and die in lots of cases...Natural dearh hardly ever comes to them...It is a horrific decision but indirectly and slilently they tell u parents put me out of misery...I cant take it and dont want u to go thru hell b/c of me...As pet owner u try everything but that is the last resort...As a human being if I am invalent and living with terminal disease I want to be put out of misery...Pls call Dr. kravorkian and beam me up to paradise...😳

I am all for death penalty for such crimes which are comitted...No Mercy...

This post is not regarding PR but on a general level..

Edited by Dabulls23 - 15 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 15 years ago

#180

Unfortunately what PR will show is Varsha will get a KARMIC punishment of not being able to conceive for a long time to come ..............a filmy , surreal 'punishment' . I would have preferred to see a strong emotional void in her marraige where Satish totally turns away from her . I would have liked to see her losing the power she had over him as a woman and it hitting her hard . And eventually , the marraige resulting in a divorce . .

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