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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool_Ishu

Well, we all have heard many stories on how hard it is to get a chance in bollywood if you don't have a god father. Even Amitabh and SRK had to struggle in beginning. Other day Siddesh broke down in ZND.

What these reality shows give these contestants a very good exposure and they get some very experienced and talented people as mentors. If you have real talent then some one will notice you and give you a break as afterall even bollywood producers want to make money and want to trap good talents available.

I think these reality show contestants definitely have a advantage over a person who is not from reality show when competing for the same position and even after all these help and coaching if you are not able to get any chance then probably you don't have it in you.

Look at lil champs skippers none of them are winners but some one noticed their talent and they got the opportunity and some one must be taking note of some amazing choreographies they have given so far. Without the exposure of DID probably they won't get even these kind of opportunities.

Last thing, I do believe in luck. If you happen to be at right place at right time then that makes things easy for you. But then you have to grab that opportunity and make most of it.



yes, I agree.

On a lighter note, (on the highlighted), probably none of the winners had the time for this?! 😉 They have been busy with something else like Shakti training in France and Salman working towards a film!?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5



yes, I agree.

On a lighter note, (on the highlighted), probably none of the winners had the time for this?! 😉 They have been busy with something else like Shakti training in France and Salman working towards a film!?



So DID has definitely has helped them in some way. May be they didn't get exactly what they were looking for but these training and assistant director work is going to help them in achieving their bigger goals. So all the hard work they put in DID is not a waste. From thousands of people came for auditions only 18 got selected. So I am sure this DID stamp will add some credentials.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool_Ishu

Yes, I agree ...all 18 should be thankful for the opportunity they got to showcase their talent...

Actually there is not much of a career path for a dancer in India....other than to be a choreographer (dance insructor) or an actor or be a professional dancer for shows etc.... I am glad to see at least some of them doing well as choreographers....😊

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankit_nyc

😊 Wow I hope Shakti does alright......From what the article portrays, doesn't seem as if the winners of these shows go terribly far in the real world......😊 and it's a bit surprising people on this thread are attacking Salman's choice for becoming an assistant director eventhough he won a dance competition and yet these are the people who were all so excited when reading the now proven false rumor of Shakti starring in a movie opposite Rani and Vidya............😃 so does that mean if Salman does anything other then dancing such as directing he is wasting his talent, but if Shakti does anything other then dancing she is not? 😃

So very true!!! And he must have some talent otherwise he wouldnt even be an A.D. rite now. All the best to Salman
I think Shakti should be ok in whatever she pursues... Her sisters Neeti n Mukti have also had a good year...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Not just publicity .. these contestants get so much of "grooming" being on these shows .. If they have to get that kind of grooming other places they have to shell out huge money! Its not easy to be able to talk and express themselves when someone sticks a mike on their mouth ! These people get all of that (like for e.g. how to talk, what to talk, how to present themselves, how to be comfortable with camera, also the politics behind if they are smart enough etc etc) .. all for free !
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Oh am back after weeks. Feels good really...

Hmm, let's say I have a mixed opinion on these shows. I don't think reality shows are just that bad as we make them seem. Reality shows that exposes talent like DID or Indian Idol or some few others are not bad, whether they're scripted or not. In my opinion, they become a platform for strugglers, and that's a good thing, because if Shreya Goshal, Abhijeet Sawant, Meiyang Chang, Siddhesh are called celebrities today, from other shows or in Bollywood today, it's all thanks to these shows. And those are some of the few names that I personally feel have got real and good talent.

Okay, we know reality shows are not exactly what's seen on screen. There's so much going back behind the stage that we perhaps could never think of. I still remember that one moment, and it persists till today, when I couldn't believe how Jai could have come out as third runner up in the DID Finale. That was one of the worst outcomes of any show ever for me, where true talent got sidelined, hard and fast. But things happen, those things always happen, because if we want talent to be shown, we've got to deal with these things happening too.

About the stars, I personally feel they have to carve their own way. I always take Jai or Siddhesh's example from last season, because those are the ones I personally feel have gone very far from where they first came. They've made a mark for themselves in the dance field, starting out from practically zero. Struggling is part of it really, they all have. From Remo to Mithun Da, to Vaibhavi and Arshad ( I recently found that out on ZNKD) to even big names like SRK or Amitabh. I feel if you've got the drive, the passion to be different from anyone and show how much you're worth, then you'll make it big, whatever your name, religion, caste or skin color.

In my honest opinion, since we're on the DID forum, I'll talk about Salman. He never seemed to have that drive about dance. He himself says that DID was a means to be an actor really. There's a difference between being a good dancer and a good actor. Also, between being a successful dancer, and a successful actor. Dancing is in his blood. he feels it. I may be wrong, but perhaps acting isn't.

Also I don't like how they shift into acting once they're done. Why so? As some of you said, what's even the use of such shows if you're going to jump into Bollywood as soon as you get the winning amount. A lot of times, I do think about what would have happened if other people, lets say Vineet for the first SRGMP and Jai for DID had won the shows, would it have made a difference? Perhaps not... But it's strange, how they get more successful in the field when they don't win the shows, or just turn out to be runner-ups.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sneha

Oh am back after weeks. Feels good really...

Hmm, let's say I have a mixed opinion on these shows. I don't think reality shows are just that bad as we make them seem. Reality shows that exposes talent like DID or Indian Idol or some few others are not bad, whether they're scripted or not. In my opinion, they become a platform for strugglers, and that's a good thing, because if Shreya Goshal, Abhijeet Sawant, Meiyang Chang, Siddhesh are called celebrities today, from other shows or in Bollywood today, it's all thanks to these shows. And those are some of the few names that I personally feel have got real and good talent.

Okay, we know reality shows are not exactly what's seen on screen. There's so much going back behind the stage that we perhaps could never think of. I still remember that one moment, and it persists till today, when I couldn't believe how Jai could have come out as third runner up in the DID Finale. That was one of the worst outcomes of any show ever for me, where true talent got sidelined, hard and fast. But things happen, those things always happen, because if we want talent to be shown, we've got to deal with these things happening too.

About the stars, I personally feel they have to carve their own way. I always take Jai or Siddhesh's example from last season, because those are the ones I personally feel have gone very far from where they first came. They've made a mark for themselves in the dance field, starting out from practically zero. Struggling is part of it really, they all have. From Remo to Mithun Da, to Vaibhavi and Arshad ( I recently found that out on ZNKD) to even big names like SRK or Amitabh. I feel if you've got the drive, the passion to be different from anyone and show how much you're worth, then you'll make it big, whatever your name, religion, caste or skin color.

In my honest opinion, since we're on the DID forum, I'll talk about Salman. He never seemed to have that drive about dance. He himself says that DID was a means to be an actor really. There's a difference between being a good dancer and a good actor. Also, between being a successful dancer, and a successful actor. Dancing is in his blood. he feels it. I may be wrong, but perhaps acting isn't.

Also I don't like how they shift into acting once they're done. Why so? As some of you said, what's even the use of such shows if you're going to jump into Bollywood as soon as you get the winning amount. A lot of times, I do think about what would have happened if other people, lets say Vineet for the first SRGMP and Jai for DID had won the shows, would it have made a difference? Perhaps not... But it's strange, how they get more successful in the field when they don't win the shows, or just turn out to be runner-ups.

😃 Hi Sneha......You mentioned in your post how Jai has succeded more then Salman...can you tell me how you reached to that conclusion? What has Jai done exactly that Salman hasn't done? Salman is an assistant director, and since he wants to get in to acting that's a huge achievement for him.....Jai's biggest claim to fame since finishing 4th in DID 1 has been being chosen as a skipper for DID lil masters....I am a huge D sir supporter but even I don't think being chosen to be a skipper in DID lil masters is a career defining thing........😊 You also mentioned how Jai came out of nowhere, but so did all the contestant in DID 1......they all came out of nowhere, they were not known before DID 1........so Jai was in the same boat as everyone else.......😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ankit, why am I not surprised to see you?

Oh no not again... Check ALL the old threads, I've already explained those to you a THOUSAND times.

Just to add one thing, if he wanted to go into direction, he should have participated in Big Boss or some reality show that would showcase his acting talent. Dance India Dance was for India's DANCING star, not India's Upcoming Bollywood star. Before twisting and turning my words like you always have, check out some facts. For starters, the name of the show?

Yes, so have all the others, I haven't named anyone that hasn't struggled as far as I recall! As soon as you find that, let me know...

And I am as proud as Dharmesh as I am of Jai. For the sincere refreshment of your memory, I said I was looking forward to what Dharmesh would offer as choreography. Dharmesh and Jai are so far my top two for this season, Jai having a slight edge due to his group dances, and his ability to choreograph various forms (since last episode Dharmesh couldn't live up to Ballroom dancing AT ALL!) but that could slip anytime of course, as soon as Dharmesh shows something better or Jai slips behind.

By the way, my favorite duet on this show so far is by Dharmesh too: the Nahi Samne one. That was a stroke of brilliance!

So yes, for me, Jai and Dharmesh have been more successful than Salman for sure. They've taken up what they came for, and made a name for themselves in that field. Today, people get excited when Jai or Dharmesh have to choreograph something and wait for their choreography to see what's new, innovative or interesting. To them, DID wasn't just a platform to Bollywood, it was their passion, bloody and soul to show for dance. And that's something I bow down to. I am sorry if you don't agree, because I can't explain better than this. But then, I just think you will, since Dharmesh is in there too. Or are you a greater Salman fanatic?

I just happen to nurture and appreciate true talent over my personal favorites. Irrespective of their gender, caste, religion, skin color or stature, I voice out names that I think are deserving. I don't see why it should be otherwise or why I further need to justify my reasoning.


I'd just give you one advice. Stop feeling insecure about Jai or targeting him each time. Remember Shakti from last season? True talent gets recognized or appreciated anywhere Ankit... A few taunts here and there and a few belittling comments isn't going to stop it from growing. Jai has an inborn talent for choreography, but then so has Dharmesh. Learn to appreciate others except your favorites. Learn to make this world a peaceful place to live in...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sneha

Ankit, .... make this world a peaceful place to live in...

Sneha... Like you...I am also enjoying seeing Jai and Dharmesh's talent as choreographers...I knew Dharmesh was a choreographer before the show began...but Jai, I had no clue....It is really great to see them making a name for themselves as choreographers...I think they are here to stay in the field of dancing. They are already proving how marketable their talent is by high ratings of the show....
The only thing I don't enjoy is to engage in hopeless debates with constant criticism of selected targets...day after day after day.....,Any way, it is really good to see people who are passionate about dancing come to this forum and have a good discussion. Have Fun😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

Sneha... Like you...I am also enjoying seeing Jai and Dharmesh's talent as choreographers...I knew Dharmesh was a choreographer before the show began...but Jai, I had no clue....It is really great to see them making a name for themselves as choreographers...I think they are here to stay in the field of dancing. They are already proving how marketable their talent is by high ratings of the show....
The only thing I don't enjoy is to engage in hopeless debates with constant criticism of selected targets...day after day after day.....,Any way, it is really good to see people who are passionate about dancing come to this forum and have a good discussion. Have Fun😃



Oh thanks MU! I see you don't know me. I've been here the full of last season too, but perhaps we haven't crossed each others paths. Thanks anyway... 😆

And don't worry, I am used to discussions and how to break people who think they're either over smart or simply don't know that they're fanatics. **[Very important note: This is not targetted to ANYONE, I was talking in general]. You see, I am an avid Debate Mansion member on IF, so don't worry about it at all! 😉

I agree. I think both of them are excellent choreographers. I never thought Dharmesh was a mind blowing dancer, and still stick to that opinion about him, but he's been a fabulous choreographer and I haven't doubted it a single second. As for Jai, Boogie Woogie before and DID and now Little Masters, he's sure making a name for himself too. So is Siddhesh as a celebrity contestant on ZNKD. I think true determination always carves a way for itself. I haven't known Dharmesh, but from FB and DID season 1, I always knew Siddhesh and Jai had that drive in them. They gave everything to their dance, from tears, blood to sweat and pain. They're the perfect examples of why a title doesn't matter as much as the 3'Ds do! 😃

Just one advice, don't take any debate or discussions at heart. People who matter don't mind, and those who mind don't matter anyway. I am on IF for fun and knowing new people, and I don't let anyone ruin that for me. 😳

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