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Posted: 16 years ago
yeah i have heard this dialogue several times ...... hmm so there isnt exactly any belief in an after life as such ..... hmm kinda cool ... jiasa karo gay waisa isi duniya mein bharo gay .... i kinda like this concept
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Posted: 16 years ago

@Skaptical

The author has drawn her inspiration from Lady Macbeth when she portrayed her ghosts coming to consume Arf's mom. ….....She starts hallucinating in the closed room with her daughters. Excellently done ......... this was what reminded me of Lady Macbeth who saw blood on her hands. Well Shakira (Arfeen's mother) sees the fire of hell coming towards her..."

An excellent analogy and to the point…Yes it is assuming Shakespearean shades…And all the more commendable, the Act stands.

Why? Why does Saba accept this situation? Why this defeatist attitude? She had spunk before so why didn't she forge ahead and make some life on her own? Or is that an impossible scenario? I haven't understood that..."

A very interesting point… This would have been the possible course in real life, but again this is Author's prerogative to decide the course, and not implausible at that.

@ Arwen

".... the emplyer cd have set her up with another one that matched saba's qualifications but when her employer asked her questions ... saba said that she is not educated and other such stuff so i think this has more with her wanting to cut of every single link with he past than a lack of any oppurtunities ......"

A good explanation for the present state. But she must have faced some difficulty with present employer too, which must have taken her to Arfeen's employment… or to augment the income she might have changed the job… again not wishing to use her other skills which connects her to the past.

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: skeptical

The author was an English teacher in your school..................????????? 😲 😲 😲 😲 😲 😲

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Then why does she show Saba being so defeatist. Now I'm pulling my hair out of my scalp............................ 😭 😭 😭 😭

skepy author loves tragedies it seems,like me 😉😉😉😉....... u know why i can sometimes understand this quiteness...of saba........i can actually think like her,i still feel that for saba to not pursue a good career etc.....could be something to do with her deepest love for arfeen,as samrath had said in his replies once.....even sending sara to arfeen was also more for arfeen,than sara...........so am still waiting.as per my big reply about all this has to wait till tuesday,
one thing i want to mention totaly unrelated to current episode though
i feel author showed whatever was lacking in arfeen wont be so in haider.....
e.g. When he was serving sara dinner on her first night at his house,he says my male ego wont be hurt by serving a woman so dont worry,he also comments that by staying abroad he had gotten used to doing all household chores...mr arfeen lacked in both...
i feel in future too sara and haider would outwit the hurdles in their lives by their more mature actions than arfeen's and somewhere also saba's.
so this is author's way of trying to find justice and bring a revolution in women's fate in her native country.
apparentl y she must have gotten inspiration from some real characters in society ......i badly want to read this drama ,but i agree with arween attempting to read a urdu e-book photographed from novel is no joke for me.I would try to buy it.some how i have to read the book if i like a movie based on book.Most of the times its opposite way....i get disapointed with movie after reading book ....lets see how would i feel about this one....
her other works are also being adapted into dramas MALAL is one of them and meri unkahi kahani with faisal.......
skepy i love ur analysis...so wo to tum karti hi raho.........kahani bhi enjoy karti jao...😉 and yes we should attempt to figure out how would we have taken this story as writer
samrath i will try to find sameena's works my mom used to watch one of her serials .
agreed about what a cas t and what direction..........
arfeen's dad's reaction to sakheela's confession was OMG amazing he impressed me so much with his performance in this scene.I feel this was one of his most important scene and he did full justice
as per sameena(shakeela) i can write eassay about her skill ......range of emotion in face eyes,body language and most importantly voice ...one word is uncomparable and genuine
samiya(saba) again is another powerful performer today.way she says wo kehta hai yeh bacha us ka nahi......was too good
even arfeen's small phone conversation with his mom when he got angry was brilliant,but with so many other timeless scenes it was as samrath had said become secondary.....
so see u guys i really enjoyed ur discussions.................kash main bhi free hoti to participate..but instead i was making poori chole and halwa for relatives...😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
arwen as per kayamat concept in our religions ,i wanted to add one more thing to skepy's explanation,we sikhs also belive that one gets his/her sins punished in this life and some times u have to take rebirth to pay for ur sins(so the famous dialouge in our serials) .In sikhism we are told with good deeds ,devotion and love for all humanity(all religions and castes etc) would ultimately let soul get rid of its constant cycle of rebirh and get ultimate place with god. we consider god to be like no form as well and more like source of light,so as such no concept of day of judgement .I personaly think that if you do bad to some one,hurt intentionaly or commit a act of unhumanity with any person..be he or she of any region race etc.....u will pay for it ...one way or other.It may take time but it will happen.I have seen it happening ....it happens god has his ways of showing us both heaven and hell in this world only...........like author is showing us now....
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Posted: 16 years ago
Skep .... i guess the author is trying out different scenarios in her works .... if she is showing saba as defeatist than as sami says we see an improvement in sara ....

Sam u mentioned Malaal ... this drama only ended abt a month or so ago .... i just saw a few scenes of the last episode .... seems to me a drama/novel abt strong women characters ... Imran Abbas and Sarwat Gillani (sara) were both part of that serial too .... though not paired opposite each other .. there is another serial called Doraha i think which is again based on this author's novel .... Meri Unkahi Kahani is probably in production ... couldn't find any reference to it but will try again ....
and if u lived anywhere near NYC i wd have said go to Jackson Heights ..... but in Canada .... i have no clues ... may be u cd order it online but why not wait until the drama ends? by the end u mite hate the serial so there wont be any point in reading the novel ... btw i have heard that they made changes when adapting it to a screenplay but since i havent read the nvl so no comparison :)

Samarth Samina Pirzada is in Ghanti but her's is a smallish supporting role in it ... but than Ghanti is not a full fledged serial ... just a couple of hrs long tele play ...
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Posted: 16 years ago
"so see u guys i really enjoyed ur discussions.................kash main bhi free hoti to participate..but instead i was making poori chole and halwa for relatives...😃" ... Sami
Oye Sakhi..............kyu mujhe torture kar rahi ho? Abhi Abhi ghar ayii hoon, bilkul thaki huyi. 🤢 I am soooooo fatigued ki kya kahoo? Zara is taraf bhi chole ki plate sarka dena......bahuuuuuuut meherbani.......................... 😉
Thoda letne jaati hoon, payr jaise tootne lage hai. 😭
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Posted: 16 years ago
poori chole and halwa? sam i want some as well 😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
hehe ......dono ko bhej diya mail mein receive kar lena.......



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Posted: 16 years ago
guys i want to share a song here......
just wanted to share a inspiration song from my all time fav movie sikhast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3nsArm9GZE
so skepy ka gusa thoda kum ho(track pe..mujh pe nahi😃) aur mujhe thodi positivity.arwen a new song for u from golden era of our cinema...and samrath and ur wife aap ke liye ek khoobsoort gana



Edited by sami01 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
wah kitna sama laga diya maine adil ke bare mein reply karne ko......got busy and then forgot....
so here i am with my 2 pennies....
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Adil:

Another well etched character and finely acted by the actor for most of the part. The actor is intense and effective as the silent third angle. He is reminding me of Jackie Shroff (again in absence of other reference), who, like him, has played a silent third angle in latest version of Devdas [as Chandrababu].(thank god there was something good in other devdas..i considered a it a personal insult by sanjay leela banshali😉...to shartchander,imagine in that era ghar ki bahu dancing with a tawaif..and frame to frame copy of death scene from bimal roy movie..totally crap...sorry got carried away ..but performances by 2 was good jackie and madhuri) He is doing good justice to the role.yes he is doing whatever is required by the director.Most of time silent portrayl,he is good actor,but this serial has exceptional actors too so his talent gets a little less light.But for his role he suits a lot.have to mention that a friend of mine considers him very handsome in his own way.....hmmm do i think same....can't tell 😆

Character- He is honest and unfazed when truthful. He is not afraid of Taima or Tau but diffident to the wishes of his mother. Yes i love his this quality,in reality he is true sanskari insaan...he has all good virtues in him ..parents ki respect,yet understanding people's deep cunning minds too, he knows what kind of woman his tai ma is,and knows hwo tai ma disaprooves saba's education and behaviour.

Somehow he is feeling inferior to Saba's higher faculties and is reluctant in expressing his love directly. For instance he attempts to propose through mother but then allows Taima's meddling. And as only second male offspring of the clan I would have loved more scenes of bonding between two cousins.i wanted that too,but with kind of pace the serial has i think they never had time,but hopefully we will see one scene between him and arfeen once arfeen knows the truth.I think he had this genuine respect and affection for saba,his ability to understand people deeply helped him here,thats why he chose conventional approach and once his mom put a condition he realized parents r very very important (which should be the case i feel most of the time ).I think he was very well educated too just chose a more regional attire ,very common in pakistan ,way he talked seem to suggest that to me.

But I have slight difference of opinion on his actions. Though he is consistent in his character his one moment of wavering has contributed considerably to Saba's downfall, however indirectly and if not deliberately. When he allows his mother to make him run away he is leaving Saba entirely on her own and to the mercy of the pack (including Gun wielding Tau). And see the damage. Arfeen's single most vexation is his flight which was supporting Taima's scenario. Of course this too is a thematic need of the plot and Author's prerogative to continue the narrative (as he deems it fit). There would have been a very different scenario, if He would have stayed and countered Taima's allegations with truthful description of the circumstances.I know it was his moment of failure,his mom gave him her sar ki kasam and he let her do that ,her fear of possible killing by the tau who was mad in furry .I think still even his staying there wouldnt have mattered much to any oen ,it could have caused more trouble in my opinion in creating too many fights and feuds.and i feel reason for saba's plight was more due to her absent father..if he was there he wouldnt have found such terrible match for her ,who had to paid for his favours🤢🤢🤢🤢 by her tau. If that would have not yielded enough influence over Arfeen (in view of his reverence to mother), at least Saba's own family would have been far less susceptible in casting her away so cruelly. Besides he would not have any hesitation in taking counter oath and Taima's witness substantially mitigated. But then we would not have this Tale to read.yes its author's way of showing human reaction to things.....😃and story does need to be told ......

His subsequent actions deserve full praise. On his return he has not yielded an inch. He is unwavering hence forth. True friend to Saba in putting forward brave pleas to Arfeen (knowing Saba's love to him, he prefers this as a first try then his own proposal). And most natural refusal to Taima's diabolic schemes later on.i really loved him for both,putting saba forward ,and even before when his own heart was broken,he was still a good friend to saba ,always helping ,doing things for her.

His continued presence is an interesting watch and there may be some chance of interaction between him and Sara at her present disappearance.Yes I really hope so , I want them to show some emotional interaction with sara,she already likes him as per her conversation with arfeen on one occasion.

i loved his analysis of tai ma's trip to mecca .He was very effective in that scene.His refusal to help aasiya after her divorce was also done very convincingly.He should have had more importance in story line,but as we do know author has her love for arfeen and saba's love story so we would get that ...

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