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Posted: 16 years ago
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I feel that starting today? the show has already taken a turn for the better, even though it doesn't seem so.... The reason I feel this way is because some major things have happened compared to all previous epis... Even a month ago we wouldn't have dreamt radhika becomig a sevika, Vish flying off to Bombay, leading to babuji's dil ka daura..... But just loved the moment when Dev tells babuji that ~ "radhika mil gayi hai", and the hopeful sitar playing in the background.... It was priceless !!
Also rem ? when Dev "decides" with this firm resolve on his face, and tells radhika when she walks away ~ "par tumhe tumhare babuji ki baat to manani hi padegi.... Here, I believe he says that after carefully listening to what guruji said earlier ~ "bhagwan ke saame haath phaila? do to kisi doosre ke saamne haath phailane ki zaroot nahin padti".... As a big fan, I had to pause and echo those words in my own mind, and the depth in his words... Also, it seems quite obvious that Guruji already "observed" deep connection between Dev and sevika Radhika...

In his own spiritual way, guruji is going to keep offering sort of cryptic guidances to RaDev....The biggest example is maha mritrynjaya mantra few epis ago which he conducted (for radhika) even without her knowledge.... He's a much bigger form of babuji, coz there's no amma or anyone even remotely resembling her (thank god !) to stop guru from his diksha.... And because of guru's words, Dev even gets so energized and hopeful... as if he has found the final answer ... to hold his radhika in his arms, permanently ❤️ !!!

And the answer is .... BABUJI.... Now what remains to be seen is whether or not kanha hears radhika's prayers, esp when He's babuji's kanha first and foremost..... In an odd sort of way, I wonder if you all feel that starting tomorrow there are going to be a host of scenarios, dramas, poojas, pravachaans at the ashram, being the? battleground of what's to happen, what's to come, what all needs to be resolved and how ... How, when and what decisions, nirnayas, are going to be formed??? Will there be discussions between these 2 maharathis re their respective crafts, moh maya struggles versus renunciation ??? Who knows .... ashram may become the platform for these two great actors to not only show their prowess, but also their shuddha Hindi jugalbandis.... It's going to be a tough act to follow... IMO....
Guru knows radhika only for few days now, while babuji knows his daughter, her sacrifices, yes, her weaknesses and why she has them all her life... Both Dev and Radhika "know" how babuji is going to shape her destiny from this point forward..... Along the way, babuji will even suspect his own amma that she had something horrible to do with radhika leaving home..... He also knows that radhika cannot live under the same roof with the wretched fat? witch.
Babuji may even take severe steps to ask amma to get the hell out of Vrindavan along with her ugly mouth (was itching to say that !!)..... Radhika needs shakti from her kanha tenfold now than ever before. Lot of Q's, will she or will she not leave the ashram ?? My prediction from past experiences..... emphatic and resounding ...NO, she wont.... Guru will wield big influence on radhika's nirnaya.... As usual, there's lot on the CB plate, including Vish / purab / Bombay /daadi / vaishali, and rest of Delhi clown clan..... For 2-3 days at least, is Bombay going to be yet another platform for some untoward plots coz of Mrin's bure iraade.
Maa is slowly but surely speaking up, and saying certain truths that she avoided facing until now.... She's becoming more and more forthright, now trying her best to do her patni dharm better than ever before.... even standing against amma's wild shenanigans..... even trying to be honest with herself for spoiling Vish (naam ka zahar) ... no more covering up for Vish, even claiming accountability for her own part in it... But of course, as per precap, as usual amma's going to change the direction of the wind... she's going to plot and concoct yet another yojna, and is going to win and no one else, again, for now !!
Lastly, I think the long-awaited bhoomipooja (groundbreaking ceremony) is really going to break some grounds.... I'm just curious to know its significance in bigger scheme of things and in what fashion it's going to shape many different outcomes in coming weeks... If some of you would like to enlighten us on that subject... would be great... perhaps .... anukapoor.... and perhaps what kind of rivaaz, rasams will directly impact the lives of our RaDev jodi...

Any thoughts / comments ?!?!?!

~ P ~

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Posted: 16 years ago
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beautiful summary of the "maharatis" babuji and guruji! I hope the breaking ground does happen- the plot has stagnated enough. it needs to move forward. i am all for rads to stay in the ashram a bit more to recognize dharma/ karma. by running away from dharma already assigned to her (especially the wife bit), she cannot take on the role of sevika. She hides behind the use of word "kartavya"- duty bound to a certain role, well, she forgets that she has not even started on the kartavya of being a wife. Nor has she done much in the way of kartavya of being a daughter to sastri ji- she has allowed herself to be manipulated more by amma and devki than sastri ji.

so she needs to do what kanha wanted her to do before the wedding- "Mein yahin chahta hoon radhika, ki tum sach bolo." All this khel is an elaborate one for the creatives to uphold India's motto- Satyameva jayate! 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Blokes! you are so right! This whole show is based on Krishna and Krishna is all about follow the path of sach and do your karam. so I think Krishna wants Rads to learn to stand up for herself, stop lying and face the truth even though this truth is going to hurt some of her own family members.but still truth is truth and she can't deny it or change it. she will have to face it. just do your Karmas and don't worry about the Phal. and she needs to learn that just like Arjun in Mahabharat, she needs to support the truth, and learn not to bow against Adharm and Asatya (which is Devki and Amma). My two words!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Radev: Very well said...........In fact, I was feeling the same thing that yesterday's episode was quite good.......and points you touch are excellent...In fact I was going to write something on those very points.........
I will write something on those lines which you have mentioned........today evening.........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks for your valuable comments and views, which we have reiterated before also by different buddies..... IMO creatives are really not left with much option but to heed viewers "complaints" , and perhaps reshoot, redefine, rewrite the upcoming episodes. It is hightime that they actually utilize the cumulative contribution and ideas of all you great writers ... I said it before on other threads, I say it again.... as we all have....
That said, I have to slightly disagree, M, regarding radhika's kartavya, because I somehow believe that she (writers) knows that while in ashram she has no choice but to say those words to dev ~ it's like ~~~ marta kya na karta ~~. Prior to ashram, the only way she could do her patni dharm (in delhi) and in absentia in Vrin, was thru all sorts of vat savitri, hariyali amavasya, akhand deep, etc. etc. Ittefaaq se even vibhuti was applied (epi May 6) by dev's "patni"..... All her life she's been a mere puppet at the hands of the evils around her (who shall remain nameless coz we know who and what they are).... As a person with zero self esteem and total oblivion to her own needs, she has been wondering thru her life with no direction.... All her life her kartavya towards babuji has been nothing short of exemplery, but it abruptly stopped when the puppet was thrown away by that evil force.... Ashram scenario changes everything, lock stock and barrel....
kbedi, your wonderful comments are great, but my 2c believe that in radhika's world of servitude, she cannot exactly carry out Mahabhart's big lesson of karmanye ma phaleshu... Still one karma she has been doing against all odds is .... just giving and giving.... Sorry if my views differ, guys !!!
Anuji, can't wait to read your comments this evening !!
Oh, got to go.... the 1st part must be already uploaded !!!!
~ P ~
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Radev: Please call me Anu........Sorry, could not fulfill my promise of writing about this today......but will try to def write tomorrow...........came back quite late from work..........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Anu, it's perfectly alright !! Us CBians understand each other without even formally knowing each other.... That's the beauty of this serial and how much power this show has wielded on us all !!!
BTW, I read your thread Karam Bhoomi in the morning and as I told brishti (thru PM) I had been having major virus problem with my computer off and on for 3-4 days now.... hence haven't replied to some very interesting posts including yours yet.
Your post is simply mind-blowing, exceptionally beautifully summed up and written..... my my u guys are geniuses..... mr/s writers, you better learn something from these invaluable forumers !!! Mind-blowing !!!
Good night and radhe radhe !
Prem (ms !)
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Continuing with my thoughts for the next epi of yesterday ......
The general concensus of some forumer is very real one....The common fear I notice among us all is that radhika will be back to Sq 1 !! I beg to differ. Why, how, kyun ? There's no way babuji would want his ladli beti to come back home, and there's certainly no way Dev would want the ultimate love of his life to come back to that wretched ugly fat senseless? horrible old hag !!! (lol !!) 😉

So these two great thorough gentlemen, coupled with ma with renewed vision, who even changes the bed sheet (oh my, how touchy can that be...) ye jante huye bhi ki bitiya hamesha zameen par soti aai hai... that touched me immensely, immediately following baap aur beti ka milan ... I actually cried ... and the way Dev ke chehre pe sukoon jhalak raha tha, watching the two embrace, and such a faint lovely smile and happiness? on his face.. just priceless...

(btw eating jalebi while typing, hehe !! anyone seen the SBB jalebi clip of RaDev on the sets ?! )..... So, my take starting tomorrow is that we will see a different amma tomorrow.. I know you all want to beat me up? for saying something outright unthinkable for that old hag !! Babuji to amma ko thikane lagayenge hi, Dev will also put her in her place ! Rem ? epi 5/11 just before phool bangla, before leaing delhi, the way Dev quietened the fatso down with his genuine arguments..... Ab to mutts ke bahane Dev ka chakkar to lagta hi rahega, and if ever he sees that ominous figure misbehavin' , he's going to give her one whopping? piece of his American and Hindustani mind....
Now that Dev's weakness & strength (his Radhika) is back, woh uske liye zameen aasmaan ek kar dega.. we haven't forgotten the panchaayat saga, the way our Raj Purohit ne itne adaar aur samman ke saath un sarpanchon ki bolti band kar di... we dont need bigger proof of what our Dev is really capable of, and that too with such a dexterity, captivating smile and respect in his eyes, in his behavior, in his mannerisms.... Dev is a born natural actor and he wont take no crap from? nobody never, certainly not from that evil force !!
We also need to realize one more change. As someone speculated on this forum (and how true can that be !!)... I would even call it a revelation on the part of that poster..... that radhika needs only one person to be "on her side" and that is ... her ma !! I dont care how evil that force can be, there ain't no way she's going to be able to compete with the whole world on one side of tarazoo, and she on the other.... Uske cheekhne chillane ke din gaye, they're history, gone, sayonara ! It's the start of her bad days, so you better start counting 108 malaa faster and quicker, if you want to save your skin !! Woh khud jamuna mein jake doob maregi ! Lalla wont? even have to do the honors to tell her to get the hell out from Vrin !
Glad I let it all out all at once, so I wont have to waste my energy doing it ever again, geez !!? Even though yest morning I dreaded to think that the precap is probably a dream. But have since revised my opinion, based on few things I saw in the precap on 2nd, 3rd viewing.... I just dont think a dream would cover so many facets, i.e. Dev standing anxiously by his van, folded hands, radhika holding her kanha tightly, her palms in namaste ki mudra mein, so many sevikayen and those beautiful young girls in red, all walking towards the car to say goodbye to their "didi".....
My analysis of a dream is ~ something has to look artificial for it to be a dream. The precap somehow doesn't give that impression..... It's just that our Dev has such "dreamy" eyes, haha ! This time I certainly hope I'm right, along with all of you lovely viewers.... If not, these writers are going to get it big time from all of us.. That's a promise to kanha...... Now how the next and the final big truth is going to be unveiled remains to be seen.. C U all later !!


~ P ~

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Well, we are scrooged big time today !! I know lot of you predicted that radhika should not and will not leave the ashram..... But I feel disillusioned coz I had put complete stock in babuji's ability to bring her home... Q of convincing beti wouldn't even arise, i said to myself ..... Yet I'm glad with the turn of events, as it only goes to show that radhika is coming on her own.... today she didn't even have to talk about "aapki patni" because that seems to have become a moot point, for now !!

That said, I'm completely disgusted with the way these precaps keep deceiving us, betraying our trust and hope.... But on the other hand, although shocked with babuji's nirnaya, Dev rose to the occasion and for the 2nd time, he demonstrated his faith in kanha and therefore in him (1st time around vat savitri, epi 5/29, when he made her give in and admit her love for him at the terrace).....

Today the kind of confidence and conviction Dev imbibed was in many ways much more stronger, more powerful than before ... it's as if these adversities are an opportunity for him to realize his own belief and human vulnerabilities that we can never be as powerful and "in control" in front of god's infinite wisdom and that our destinies are already carved out by him.... And he says ~ par main ab janta hoon, tum khud ghar wapas aayogi, ab main kuch nahin karoonga, jo bhi karenge kanha hi karenge, aur tum to janti hi ho ki jab kanha ki marzi hoti hai, to woh baat ho ke hi rahti hai...And this time he really puts her on the spot, as if challenging her resolve again..... Dev now realizes that us homo sapiens cannot change the tide of times as HE is the ultimate power..... Ek na ek din hum sabko uske upar chhodna padta hai.... We cannot always control the circumstances. The circumstances control us, coz kanha's designs are different from us mortals.....
Now, what's going to be really interesting to watch (isn't that the case every day !!) from tomorrow is what action, more like inaction Dev is going to take, i.e. leave everything to kanha and let HIM guide radhika along.... At least now we will see a different, a non-dejected lover, a positive Dev, no tears for good, only smiles....
While makers didn't have to show whatever discussion took place between babuji and his steadfast daughter, I felt odd that she could so easily convince babuji..... Agreed that JD and other senior sevika painted a rosy but true picture of how happy radhika appeared in ashram activities and chores, we saw a look on babuji's face that clearly indicated that he would only take his beti back to same paristhitiyan, and obviously was thinking about his own evil fatso witch-like mother.... Sadly my prediction 2 days ago that that old hag, as usual, will win in her yojna, came tue.... Except she didn't even have to "plan" anything..... Of course kanha didn't listen to her 108 mala jaap either.... Kanha is doing all this, IMO, to make these two lovers, evolve and recognize their own strengths, grow in their own maturity, stand up for themselves, esp radhika... for which she needs her own freedom, bloom within herself before she can face worldly cruelties she grew up in.....
My 2c !
~ P ~
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Posted: 16 years ago
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RaDev: Well written post, but I personally, am so happy that Shastriji let her stay and Rads was firm in her decision.......Afterall, ever Shastriji knows that Amma mistreats Rads and nothing has changed yet.........Amma drama before he leaving to get Rads was enough hint for him to gauge the situation..........

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