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Aisha_86

@Aisha_86

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Posted: 16 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Opti
The reason why I support H-K so vociferously is because I hate the idea of Santu being portrayed as a mother of children who are older than her. Her marriage to a man so much older than herself is itself so fair. Even if one can accept that I just cant accept the other relationships this union has brought with it. Isn't it pathethic for a man who until recently was in love with Santo to suddenly be forced to look at her as a mother-in-law? Now Hiten's love has come under the scanner because of the 'step-mom' issue. How many relationships will suffer because of the marriage of Santo-DM which is yet to take off?

While I can still watch the show for Santo-DM love story, treating it as fiction, I can't bear to see her play mother. I hate it when Santo or any other character in the show mouth dialogues saying she is the mother of such grown up kids. It is more yuck to me that DM-Santo love story.

I want a dichotomisation of the relationships here. Well, one can ask how can this be possible. Well, in real life we do not see 75 per cent of the things they show in this serial. So why harp on things which are rooted in real life?

I find it really funny how Hiten Khemi lovers have some problems with santo's role and her relationship with DM. But sorry to say, this show is about them. Hiten and Khemi came afterward and are in the show because OF santo-dm. They are side characters and not the main story of the show.. Santo's kismat has made her a mother of grown up children, she didn't choose to be one.

Besides.. Why do some people think Hiten and Khemi are sacrificing for an odd relationship like DM-Santo's (just bcause of the age difference) Why don't you realise.. Dm and Santo are MARRIED.. They are the reason Hiten and Khemi are now knowing each other (remember santo and dm decided the punishment) and form the connection between the two.. Besides dm and santo are the ones who are married and religiously bonded and not hiten and khemi... Even if dm doesn';t accept santo as his wife, he has no other choice but to do it eventually as they are already bonded!! Hiten and Khemi just know each other 2 months, yes their love can be strong but it is not bonded in the eyes of their religion if you know what i mean..

Edited by Aisha_86 - 16 years ago

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Opti

@Opti

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Posted: 16 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Aisha_86

I find it really funny how Hiten Khemi lovers have some problems with santo's role and her relationship with DM. But sorry to say, this show is about them. Hiten and Khemi came afterward and are in the show because OF santo-dm. They are side characters and not the main story of the show.. Santo's kismat has made her a mother of grown up children, she didn't choose to be one.

Besides.. Why do some people think Hiten and Khemi are sacrificing for an odd relationship like DM-Santo's (just bcause of the age difference) Why don't you realise.. Dm and Santo are MARRIED.. They are the reason Hiten and Khemi are now knowing each other (remember santo and dm decided the punishment) and form the connection between the two.. Besides dm and santo are the ones who are married and religiously bonded and not hiten and khemi... Even if dm doesn';t accept santo as his wife, he has no other choice but to do it eventually as they are already bonded!! Hiten and Khemi just know each other 2 months, yes their love can be strong but it is not bonded in the eyes of their religion if you know what i mean..

Maybe their relationship is not bonded as yet but if they do get married, would it not be a valid marriage? So just because DM-Santo are already married they should not be married? That is what I called unfair. As for realising DM-Santo are married, dont worry I do realise. I do not have problems with that as long as it is not quoted as a reason for Khiten's relationship. Nobody can undo DM-Santo marriage but I feel Khiten should not hinge on DM-Santo.

Just because Santo is married to DM does not mean that she has to be a mother of children older than her. I find that ridiculous.

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Faz

@maybe-just

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Posted: 16 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: Opti

Maybe their relationship is not bonded as yet but if they do get married, would it not be a valid marriage? So just because DM-Santo are already married they should not be married? That is what I called unfair. As for realising DM-Santo are married, dont worry I do realise. I do not have problems with that as long as it is not quoted as a reason for Khiten's relationship. Nobody can undo DM-Santo marriage but I feel Khiten should not hinge on DM-Santo.

Just because Santo is married to DM does not mean that she has to be a mother of children older than her. I find that ridiculous.

Same thoughts here! Her prading around telling all of DM's children that she is their mother, I find it at first annoying to it's core but second odd, why would a young girl even want to accept something like it! Whether or not that's her relationship to the children, i find itabsolutely absurd!

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Nupur

@Nupur9

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Posted: 16 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Aisha_86
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I find it really funny how Hiten Khemi lovers have some problems with santo's role and her relationship with DM. But sorry to say, this show is about them. Hiten and Khemi came afterward and are in the show because OF santo-dm. They are side characters and not the main story of the show.. Santo's kismat has made her a mother of grown up children, she didn't choose to be one.

Besides.. Why do some people think Hiten and Khemi are sacrificing for an odd relationship like DM-Santo's (just bcause of the age difference) Why don't you realise.. Dm and Santo are MARRIED.. They are the reason Hiten and Khemi are now knowing each other (remember santo and dm decided the punishment) and form the connection between the two.. Besides dm and santo are the ones who are married and religiously bonded and not hiten and khemi... Even if dm doesn';t accept santo as his wife, he has no other choice but to do it eventually as they are already bonded!! Hiten and Khemi just know each other 2 months, yes their love can be strong but it is not bonded in the eyes of their religion if you know what i mean..

Sure enough we have tons of problem with a 50 plus year man married to a 18 year old.
Sure enough we don't see legitimacy & man-woman kind of love blooming in this relationship!
Sure enough when you are married to a man who has kids older than you, it would be rather regressive thinking to accept this...WHEN this was not a marriage of LOVE!
When The girl who was brought home was treated like a gunk & muck & regaled a position of kaamwali literally.....of course we have problem........
It was an unjust....unsuitable and a marriage which was based purely on selfish convenience, which ironically DM himself accepts when Hiten-DM are locking horns!!!

So it's story about DM & santo??So.......?
Where is logic in telling Hiten & Kheemi are wrong coz they are not the main protaganist??

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roneeta

@ronitfan

Trailblazer

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Posted: 16 years ago

#25

Sure DM accepts that the relationship he has with Santo was totally
based on the kundalis, but that does NOT make Hiten-Khemi's relationship right ..

Just how on earth can a father and his son be brother-in-laws?
It is much too disgusting to think about .. even more disgusting than the way some members seem hell-bent upon making the SanRaj relationship look like ..

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Aisha_86

@Aisha_86

Inactive

Posted: 16 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Nupur9

Sure enough we have tons of problem with a 50 plus year man married to a 18 year old.
Sure enough we don't see legitimacy & man-woman kind of love blooming in this relationship!
Sure enough when you are married to a man who has kids older than you, it would be rather regressive thinking to accept this...WHEN this was not a marriage of LOVE!
When The girl who was brought home was treated like a gunk & muck & regaled a position of kaamwali literally.....of course we have problem........
It was an unjust....unsuitable and a marriage which was based purely on selfish convenience, which ironically DM himself accepts when Hiten-DM are locking horns!!!

So it's story about DM & santo??So.......?
Where is logic in telling Hiten & Kheemi are wrong coz they are not the main protaganist??

I am not a big supporter of an marriyage with such big age difference.. But that IS the core of the show and you guys should accept that.. Its a story that happens often in the asian community, an older man marriying a girl younger than his kids. That's why this show is different, its showing something what happens often even if people disagree with it.

And yes still i have more problems with Hiten and Khemi.. And i dont really care about the maasi bhanja relationship, altough i do understand how that also could be a problem..

But MY main problem with these two is: fall in love this is a free world, no one can stop there feelings.. BUT PLEASE don't forget god gave you a brain, and that one is supposed to be used.

Why didn't they just both admit it to each other? Now that they accidentally know about each others feelings, now suddenly they have all the guts and all the attraction.. But why didn't they admit it at first? They both knew they where feeling that way?

Can't you guys see the actions hiten and khemi took are just plain illogical?

Khemi is crying to her nana ji and telling santo how it is unfair that she is marriying one while loving another man.. BUT NOW SHE THINKS ABOUT IT? She knew she wasn't forgetting hiten, she still kept trying to hide these feelings, and still knew that in two days she was going to get married.. She could have stepped up right then and sould have said NO i can't becaus i already love someone else... But NO she tried to stop those feelings, so why can't she do it now? just because hiten accidentally overheared her?

Why could she at first think about her nana's happiness and about shambu and now suddenly the only one she sees is Hiten? Isn't their love making them selfish?

And please tell me one thing.. Hiten i Liked at first because of his cool attitude.. I admit DM always acts as a malik.. But still when he called Hiten a haramkhor, do you remember what Hitensaid back? Is that justified? A son scolding his father for a girl?

And even if he hates his father, Nanaji caused him NO harm... He could have gone to nana ji and ask him for khemis hand.. and if he didn't listen he could have said (in still a polite way) "i am sorry but i am still going to marry her and i want your ashirwaad".. But no now he is doing a great job eloping with the girl. Will he not cause that old man great shame with this act? Won't the whole village talk dirty about khemi now? What did nanaji ever do to him to deserve this?

And is khemi forgetting how much her nana loves her? How are these two NOT selfish? Are they not just thinking about how THEY can be together because that way THEY will be happy even if the whole world cries? Is it not wrong for a girl to forget her nana's and sisters love because of a guy, and not wrong for a boy to scold his father for a girl?

And please tell me how long do these two know each other.. For their love that only exists since a couple of weeks they are forgetting everybody else in their lives.. And still they are not selfish?

They both could have been together, and i would like them to be together, just if their actions where right.. But i am sorry there actions are just idiotic and not right in my eyes.

Edited by Aisha_86 - 16 years ago

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BoredNCynical

@BoredNCynical

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#27

two wrongs don't make a right. An DM with such old children should not have married such young Santo. But, whether right or not it happened. Now, they r married and in our culture at least marriage is placed above everything and unbreakable and for life and so r the relationships that come with it.
Now, just because that DM-Santo should not have happened cannot be the reason for Hit-me match to be ok now. That is a done already.

On a side note, for me, my objection to thesetwo is more based on these characters selifsh behavioiur and them wallowing in their own desires soo much that they cannot see the pain and humilation that they might be putting their loved ones through.
Forget about all the other loved ones, the most I can't forgive them for putting through all the pain and humiliation is the nanaji. He brought Hiten to his house, trated him with respect and love and tought him stuff and trusted him with his work and family and in turn Hiten said no to his face and backstabbed him.
Did not even have the guts to ask nanaji's permission to court/ask for Khemi's hand before all this ruckus.
And Khemi gave all the speeches to Santo asking her to marry against her wishes for nanaji;s happiness and sent her back when she came from her hubby's place but convieniently forgets nanajis'a pain and humiliation and runs off on the day of her wedding.
Disgusting!!

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Opti

@Opti

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Posted: 16 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: maybe-just
Same thoughts here! Her prading around telling all of DM's children that she is their mother, I find it at first annoying to it's core but second odd, why would a young girl even want to accept something like it! Whether or not that's her relationship to the children, i find itabsolutely absurd!

Because this show is about regressivity and not about progressivity.