The Prince vs. Siddesh Clash- The Truth - Page 10

Bravo, cogent and long explanation.

Originally posted by: akanna

In this thread, saw only a few posts that were sensible and respectful - to the show, contestants and to the forum members. I am putting my points, from the view of a mere dance spectator for the show.

One, it was very obvious that Zee was preparing for the scripted drama, because if anyone had noticed, when Prince finished performing and the judges were commenting on his performance, the camera kept putting Siddesh's face in focus, zooming on him, and he looked very tensed - which meant that he knew he had to say all these things whether he likes it or not - because that's all part of the contract the reality show contestants sign up with the channel. I have seen this drama in so many shows now, that I dont even take it with any face value anymore!! If you go and check all the reality show forums on IF, you can see that this kind of topic have been in all of them, where one's fans go against the other one's - the channels do it for TRPs.

Two, Terence did say that Prince does P&B and Siddesh did Locking - no offense to anyone, but that's what I heard with my ears - even after watching the repeat of the same show. Both Remo and Mithun didnt let Siddesh explain - they kept shutting him up, and he was tired of the whole thing, which was very clear from his face, and so he said he doesnt want to waste anymore time, and would like the show to continue - this is what I understood from the whole skit. Remo as usual exaggerated and over praised his team member - this has been going on for weeks, that I see zero value in his comments. The honest judge is Terence and he shows no partiality in making his comments - he is a very fair person and gives his honest feedback to everyone as a real dance master - he isnt so much in film choreography because he isnt intereted in it, not because he cannot do it. Plus film choreography is way different than the stage one - ask any dance masters of any dance form.

Three, Prince isnt the king of L or P or B, he is not even the Prince in them. To me, the King for all that is Michael Jackson, no offense to anyone, and in India, it's Prabhu Deva - Prince is not even any closer to them. Then there is this 10-11 years old boy Ayush, who had won the Ek Se Badkar Ek Chota Packet show, and he simply excelled in all of them - plus he is very versatile - so saying Prince is only 16 isnt an excuse as Ayush is only 10-11 years old - IMHO. And Prince isnt graceful and he is quite stiff, and he keeps repeating the same P&B steps week after week. There's a difference from being stiff for "robot" steps to being stiff for non-robot movements - it will look too stiff and like a stick movement then. Prince mocked at Jai and Siddesh in the wild card round week, and it didnt create any issues on this forum.

Remo has always been very protective and over praising of his students, and he does that the least for Mangesh - why, I never understood. He has been a copy cat lately - the week after Terence's team (Jai and Vrushali) did the "Maa Da Laadla" puppet dance, Remo came up with the "Arre Jaare Natkhat" dance with Salman and Kushboo - the basic concept was similar though the costumes were different. Then Mayuresh did the ring dance and got all the salutes, Remo came up with the rope dance for Salman the following week!! Terence's team have been doing a lot of salsa/flamingo steps with lifts and turns, and Remo started doing that with his team!! Honestly, Mangesh is the best dancer in his team. Mangesh might be the least good looking among the six, but he is the most versatile and flexible.

Siddesh had the grace and stage presence in his dance, and I enjoyed it more than all of Prince's dances so far. In my eyes, he rocked. It was a choreographed dance, and why is Siddesh being blamed here - I dont get it!! It's just my POV, and I have nothing against either of them, as this is only a competition and whoever gets the most votes will win at the end, and life will move on. None of them are related to me, and it doesnt make any difference to me whoever wins at the end - it's good for them and their family.

This show is all about dance and dance alone - so all kinds of dance forms and variations are required, and not just LPB alone. If not, they would have called it "Pop India Break" or "Lock India Pop" instead.

Prince is way better than Siddhesh

Originally posted by: akanna

In this thread, saw only a few posts that were sensible and respectful - to the show, contestants and to the forum members. I am putting my points, from the view of a mere dance spectator for the show.

One, it was very obvious that Zee was preparing for the scripted drama, because if anyone had noticed, when Prince finished performing and the judges were commenting on his performance, the camera kept putting Siddesh's face in focus, zooming on him, and he looked very tensed - which meant that he knew he had to say all these things whether he likes it or not - because that's all part of the contract the reality show contestants sign up with the channel. I have seen this drama in so many shows now, that I dont even take it with any face value anymore!! If you go and check all the reality show forums on IF, you can see that this kind of topic have been in all of them, where one's fans go against the other one's - the channels do it for TRPs.

Two, Terence did say that Prince does P&B and Siddesh did Locking - no offense to anyone, but that's what I heard with my ears - even after watching the repeat of the same show. Both Remo and Mithun didnt let Siddesh explain - they kept shutting him up, and he was tired of the whole thing, which was very clear from his face, and so he said he doesnt want to waste anymore time, and would like the show to continue - this is what I understood from the whole skit. Remo as usual exaggerated and over praised his team member - this has been going on for weeks, that I see zero value in his comments. The honest judge is Terence and he shows no partiality in making his comments - he is a very fair person and gives his honest feedback to everyone as a real dance master - he isnt so much in film choreography because he isnt intereted in it, not because he cannot do it. Plus film choreography is way different than the stage one - ask any dance masters of any dance form.

Three, Prince isnt the king of L or P or B, he is not even the Prince in them. To me, the King for all that is Michael Jackson, no offense to anyone, and in India, it's Prabhu Deva - Prince is not even any closer to them. Then there is this 10-11 years old boy Ayush, who had won the Ek Se Badkar Ek Chota Packet show, and he simply excelled in all of them - plus he is very versatile - so saying Prince is only 16 isnt an excuse as Ayush is only 10-11 years old - IMHO. And Prince isnt graceful and he is quite stiff, and he keeps repeating the same P&B steps week after week. There's a difference from being stiff for "robot" steps to being stiff for non-robot movements - it will look too stiff and like a stick movement then. Prince mocked at Jai and Siddesh in the wild card round week, and it didnt create any issues on this forum.

Remo has always been very protective and over praising of his students, and he does that the least for Mangesh - why, I never understood. He has been a copy cat lately - the week after Terence's team (Jai and Vrushali) did the "Maa Da Laadla" puppet dance, Remo came up with the "Arre Jaare Natkhat" dance with Salman and Kushboo - the basic concept was similar though the costumes were different. Then Mayuresh did the ring dance and got all the salutes, Remo came up with the rope dance for Salman the following week!! Terence's team have been doing a lot of salsa/flamingo steps with lifts and turns, and Remo started doing that with his team!! Honestly, Mangesh is the best dancer in his team. Mangesh might be the least good looking among the six, but he is the most versatile and flexible.

Siddesh had the grace and stage presence in his dance, and I enjoyed it more than all of Prince's dances so far. In my eyes, he rocked. It was a choreographed dance, and why is Siddesh being blamed here - I dont get it!! It's just my POV, and I have nothing against either of them, as this is only a competition and whoever gets the most votes will win at the end, and life will move on. None of them are related to me, and it doesnt make any difference to me whoever wins at the end - it's good for them and their family.

This show is all about dance and dance alone - so all kinds of dance forms and variations are required, and not just LPB alone. If not, they would have called it "Pop India Break" or "Lock India Pop" instead.

Originally posted by: desicrowd

wow seriously @ssk13809 looks like you just lost it. You don't even know what u r talking. Go and start reading all your posts and the replies to it and then understand I repeat understand what others opinion is and what they are trying to convey to you. All the people you have referred to as haters, blind, ignorant probably says a lot about you. So you can probably use more adjectives about negatively describing all the others I really don't care. And if you just want people to agree with you and not go against put your name alert on it so we know we shoudln't waste our time in sharing our views.

Oh please you should NOT be talking right now. Mr. "I wish Prince gets out next round"

I wish both contestants the best, while you on the other hand clearly have something against Prince. I've considered all opinions, but ultimately, I respect choreographer's opinions more. Is this crazy? Because I'm assuming they know more about dance than people in this forum. Is this a stupid assumption? I don't think so.

And people need to understand that. I've said earlier, it's great that "YOU" think Siddesh is this and that, but ultimately I'm going to agree with what the choreographers think about his dance. That is most likely the truth. And my opinion usually correlates with the choreographers' opinions.

I don't consider Remo's comment about Prince, since Remo is extremely biased towards Prince. So what matters to me is Terrence, who said that Prince did the Popping and breaking but Siddesh did the locking correctly.

So in terms of Locking, Popping and Breaking Siddesh is not far behind Prince but Prince is definitely far behind all other constants in all other dance forms. And this competition is about a complete dance package (what I understand till today).

Originally posted by: a406a4

The bottom line is, Siddhesh pwned Prince in his own game. For weeks, Prince was being hyped as the "Prince of locking and popping", then Siddesh comes out of no where and does it better than him LOL.

Terence pointed out, that what Siddhesh did was truely popping and locking, whilst what Prince does is popping and breaking. When Siddesh demonstrated what popping was, Remo objects by saying that it was too repetitive and that Prince is still better, yeh well it was just a short demonstration, it wasn't a demonstration of the extent of his skills.

Prince is definitely not the "prince" of popping and locking.

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These are the posts I am stunned are still made!

Prince is better than Siddesh at Popping and Locking WITHOUT A DOUBT. Saying otherwise is ignorant. It's like me saying Prince is more versatile than Siddesh. Yes thats how pathetic you sound.

Maybe you need to take a logic class or something, let me try to help


1. Terrence said Siddesh is better than Prince at locking. Not that Prince doesn't do locking.


2. Terrance also said that no one can challenge Prince at Breaking&Popping.

Notice difference between 1 and 2. One is "better than", the other is more "way better than".


3. Remo said Prince does lock and pop. (contrary to what Siddesh said, not Terrence)


4. Remo said Siddesh can't Lock&Pop like Prince, FOR SURE


5. Siddesh agreed


6. Remo says Prince is definately the best at Locking&Popping


7. Siddesh agrees once again. And adds he isn't Prince.

Note- Remo knows more about Hip-Hop and Locking&Popping than any of the contestants and choreographers


8. Even Gita did not argue who is better at Locking&Popping, and just said "Prince is Prince"


9. The host then sums up and says somethings Prince is the Prince (L&P), and somethings Siddesh is the Prince (whatever that might be), just saying some are the best at certain things


Now after reading all of that, is there any debate at who is better at Popping&Locking according to the choreographers. I mean, read 4-7 if you have any doubts. Siddesh himself said Prince is the best at it. That should end all debates.



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Originally posted by: akanna

In this thread, saw only a few posts that were sensible and respectful - to the show, contestants and to the forum members. I am putting my points, from the view of a mere dance spectator for the show.

One, it was very obvious that Zee was preparing for the scripted drama, because if anyone had noticed, when Prince finished performing and the judges were commenting on his performance, the camera kept putting Siddesh's face in focus, zooming on him, and he looked very tensed - which meant that he knew he had to say all these things whether he likes it or not - because that's all part of the contract the reality show contestants sign up with the channel. I have seen this drama in so many shows now, that I dont even take it with any face value anymore!! If you go and check all the reality show forums on IF, you can see that this kind of topic have been in all of them, where one's fans go against the other one's - the channels do it for TRPs.

Two, Terence did say that Prince does P&B and Siddesh did Locking - no offense to anyone, but that's what I heard with my ears - even after watching the repeat of the same show. Both Remo and Mithun didnt let Siddesh explain - they kept shutting him up, and he was tired of the whole thing, which was very clear from his face, and so he said he doesnt want to waste anymore time, and would like the show to continue - this is what I understood from the whole skit. Remo as usual exaggerated and over praised his team member - this has been going on for weeks, that I see zero value in his comments. The honest judge is Terence and he shows no partiality in making his comments - he is a very fair person and gives his honest feedback to everyone as a real dance master - he isnt so much in film choreography because he isnt intereted in it, not because he cannot do it. Plus film choreography is way different than the stage one - ask any dance masters of any dance form.

Three, Prince isnt the king of L or P or B, he is not even the Prince in them. To me, the King for all that is Michael Jackson, no offense to anyone, and in India, it's Prabhu Deva - Prince is not even any closer to them. Then there is this 10-11 years old boy Ayush, who had won the Ek Se Badkar Ek Chota Packet show, and he simply excelled in all of them - plus he is very versatile - so saying Prince is only 16 isnt an excuse as Ayush is only 10-11 years old - IMHO. And Prince isnt graceful and he is quite stiff, and he keeps repeating the same P&B steps week after week. There's a difference from being stiff for "robot" steps to being stiff for non-robot movements - it will look too stiff and like a stick movement then. Prince mocked at Jai and Siddesh in the wild card round week, and it didnt create any issues on this forum.

Remo has always been very protective and over praising of his students, and he does that the least for Mangesh - why, I never understood. He has been a copy cat lately - the week after Terence's team (Jai and Vrushali) did the "Maa Da Laadla" puppet dance, Remo came up with the "Arre Jaare Natkhat" dance with Salman and Kushboo - the basic concept was similar though the costumes were different. Then Mayuresh did the ring dance and got all the salutes, Remo came up with the rope dance for Salman the following week!! Terence's team have been doing a lot of salsa/flamingo steps with lifts and turns, and Remo started doing that with his team!! Honestly, Mangesh is the best dancer in his team. Mangesh might be the least good looking among the six, but he is the most versatile and flexible.

Siddesh had the grace and stage presence in his dance, and I enjoyed it more than all of Prince's dances so far. In my eyes, he rocked. It was a choreographed dance, and why is Siddesh being blamed here - I dont get it!! It's just my POV, and I have nothing against either of them, as this is only a competition and whoever gets the most votes will win at the end, and life will move on. None of them are related to me, and it doesnt make any difference to me whoever wins at the end - it's good for them and their family.

This show is all about dance and dance alone - so all kinds of dance forms and variations are required, and not just LPB alone. If not, they would have called it "Pop India Break" or "Lock India Pop" instead.

I agree with most of that, though Remo is better than you give him credit for. He says negative things about his contestants way more than you think. And I don't see how you can call Prince stiff. He seems more flexible than any other contestant on the show when he dances. His movements are very graceful.


But besides for that, and I'm glad you didn't say anything contrary to to this, Prince is the best at Popping and Locking in the show up to date. Siddesh is not as good as Prince. And this is a obvious point some people seem to miss. It's as obvious as saying Siddesh is more versatile than Prince.

Originally posted by: andysah

Bravo, cogent and long explanation.

Now I am just waiting for ssk13809 to show you some mad love.😉

Wow..... I am laughing my guts out reading all these posts.😆😉 Come on guys, you are doing great job.👍🏼 Don't stop these fights😳. I am actually enjoying them. 😉

Suggestion to everyone - Prove your point before ending the fight..

P.S. - I am not a sadist. 😆😆