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Posted: 17 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: xantia

Israel is the last beacon of hope for the mid eastern world. In this moment of suffering we stand together with the Israeli people who have suffered by the hands of the Rogue Islamic Governments as well as the Dhimmi UN, which is the biggest cock eyed organisation of this world. The war that Israel is fighting is that of existance and not that of aggression. I wish the UN top brass whose's bellies are bursting with petro dollars rid themselves of the "UNDERDOG is always right syndrome" There are many Western people who suffer from the same malady when it comes to Israel. The Dhimmi UN calls the attacks on Hamas as dispproportionate. So according to these fools, Hamas should be armed with nuclear weapons inorder to enable them to wage a proportionate war on Israel. Israel has the fire power to destroy all of the Arab world in a matter of days, if Israel wished to do away with the Arabs it would have done so long ago. The HAMAS consists of rogues who mistake Israeli goodwill for weakness. I think India should take a cue from the Israelis and blast the terrorist installations in Pakistan.

haha plz see deam of this fisrt india killed thier own terrorist like shiv sena bajran dal nirndar modi and advani etccccccccccccccccc😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: anuradhasharma

@chal_phek_mat
👏...great post ...
u seems to know abut dere history....m tryning to search it...but cozz of lot of work m not able to read long paragrafs...........
thanks dear!!!
hamas launched 70 missiles on Isreali civilian areas😲😲😲....den obviously israel had to take some strick action against dem........
i dont know why ppl just take all issued religiously.......ohh...dats why not much statement against isreal are coming up......i read some statement ...like isreal shud stop dere actions cozzz innocents cozz its affecting innocents...........so it made me curious dat why not all countries condeming dese attacks.....after reading ur post.......m bit clear now....!!!!.....
i thing palestine and iseral both shud finish hamas and its activities........cozz hamas is terriost org......

ohh plz stop isreali terrorism hammas is not terrorit organization...this is relegious issue u ppls dont know about this thats y u dont know what is histroy but u ppls only read histroy made by jews...so ofcource u will blame only palestine...not israeli terrorism.....if hammas launches 70 also take look on israel..they coward are killing innocent by air strike coward!!! and killed more than 420 ppls and injured more than 2000 and mostly of them are childrens and women...
Allah btaye ga israel ko jahanum main...in hell fire
and one thing u are hindus and hindu dont know history bcoz it is relegious matter...between jews christians and muslims..
HATE ISRAEL............😡
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.LOVE U PALESTINE!!!
Edited by aaax - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#33
I wish the Indian government were as responsive and brave as Israel in dealing with the menace of terrorism unleashed on India by Pakistan! Whether it is LeT, Hamas or Al Qaeda, finding a peaceful settlement with the terrorists is clearly impossible. Rather, any invitation for talks emboldens them further as it is interpreted as a sign of weakness.

Regarding human rights, when did the Islamic world last condemn the terrorists for killing the innocent non-Muslim civilians across the world ?
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Posted: 17 years ago
#34
@aaax

From the year 2000, there are around 1000 Israelites and 5000 Palestinians that are killed. Will Israel wait until 4000 more Israelites are killed?
If one takes off the biased goggles then one realizes that not only Israelites are bad, but Hamas are bad as well. No religion, No historical reason can justify what both Hamas and Israel are doing.

If this would be the case then will some sane person support those 10 Mumbai terrorists just because of some religion or Histroy? I dont think so.

Moreover, when you say Israel are cowards or evil because they kill innocents, I agree. But, when you dont say the same for Hamas then it seems nothing but a biased opinion. Hamas are evil and they are also cowards because they hide behind children and then fire rockets. If they are so brave then why don't they just form an army and fight on a battlefield, face to face? Instead of continuing to hide behind children, suicide bombing and doing terrorism?

Hamas have also done so many bad things. They took an Israeli cook and threw him from 15th floor after tieing his hands, legs and gagging him. This is just one of such thousands of atrocities. Do people think that Israelis dont have children?

To see the other side of the story, all of us should, at least try, to remove our biased goggles. We will find that both Hamas and Israel are bad.

Edited by karandel_2008 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Problem is that some percentage of people (everyone including us in general), have a false sense of Honor and their minds are full of hatred. I say that they don't use their brains. Just caring for honor without using brains is not the way to go. Neither should they fill their minds with hatred. Problems happen when people don't accept the peaceful solutions.

If we take the example of Israel's situation, then first British mandate accepted the creation of Jewish state and then, in 1947, UN approved the plan to give half land to Israel and half to Palestine (funny that British ppl have some role in creating Pak/India and Israel/Palestine. Thank you British ppl.). Jewish people accepted the plan, but all Arab countries refused to accept the plan. They started an agenda of destroying Israel. Any agenda to wipe out an entire country is clearly terrorism to me. As soon as Israel was formed, in 1948, they attacked Israel and from then onwards continued to do so.

In 1967 all Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordon, Saudi Arab, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria, etc sent their troops to wipe out Israel. But, Israel was lucky as it was technically advanced. Israel beat and defeated all of them and finished the war in just 6 days.

Now, instead of fighting face to face, they have started these things like suicide bombings and firing rockets on Israel's civilians. Israel govt has repeatedly said that if Hamas assure them that they will not fire rockets and will not do any terrorist activities then Israel will remove blockades and will not attack.

I don't understand that why Hamas continue to fire rockets even when Israel wants a dialogue? Doesn't it show that they have a false sense of Honor?


Edited by karandel_2008 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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edit: sorry, double post. Is there any way to delete this?
Edited by karandel_2008 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#37

NO!! It is absolutely heartbreaking. All those innocent lives. Israel is an illegal state. It has no reason to be there.

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Posted: 17 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: aaax

first of all plz read history of jews n muslims...in israel Allah sent his messanger ....................
🤣🤣 yahan bhi Allah😆 Now we have to learn our history through what's written in the religious books👏👏 awesome😆
.cruel israel 😡 HATE ISRAEL😡
errrr....ummmm...were you not the one going around claiming how you ahve become a better person by reading your qoran....phir yeh hate, yeh gussa, yeh cheekhna chillana kyoon...selective lessons leti ho kya apney mazhabi kitaabon sey😉😛
muslims are not terrorist but they are victim of terrorism
sure, sure....and sun rises from the west😛...and, while we are at it, pigs can fly as well😉

Just one question - Why do we see so many problems cropping up whenever a muslim country shares it's border with a non-muslim country? If muslims are victims than who are all those people enrolled in al qaida, LeT and Hamas? Muslims created these menaces called terrorists and they need to step up to curb their activities as well. For this, they must stop cribbing how they themselves are victims. They should have thought better saanp ko doodh pilaney sey pehley.
I am with Israel here. If you are cribbing about innocent people dying now, then you should have worried about innocent israelies getting killed as well when Hamas did not keep their side of the bargain. Can't be selective while claiming "victimization"😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
#39
Am with Israel here. And the teachings of the Gita will fully support the argument.
Not to be confused with India's or any other country's (in)action. Every region is different and has it's own complexities.
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=941252&PID=19662457&#19662457
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Posted: 17 years ago
#40

It really is not a laughing matter here. Why on earth is Israel such a important place? It is ONLY because it is considered HOLY by all 3 major monotheistic religions in the world. Both muslims and jews would rather die than give up that place.

Lets talk politics now. The situation is absoloutely absurd. Yes once Israle was home to the jews. But that was a LONGGGG time ago. LONG LONG LONG time ago. It was so long that it is considered ancient. It became home to palestinians. They built their lives in that place. It became their home. How do you come in and say oh it is our home now. Forget that do you even see a PALESTINE on the map??
do you see the Gaza strip there??? Can you do that to a whole group of people and when they retailiate say oh it's terrorism. I am against violence. I don't care who it is against, vilolence is not an answer. But the emotion here is understandable. Right now Israel is killing 100s of INNOCENT civillians. INNOCENT!!!!!! Bombing places where INNNOCENT PEOPLE LIVE!!!!! Oh yes why???? Because stupid Hamas was rocket bombing?? Is anyone aware of the number of israelis killed by Hamas rocket bombing??? ANYONE??? Nothing compared to the people being killed now. NOTHING! Lives are lives. Be it one or hundred but killing hundreds of innocent lives for the cost of one seems morally wrong!

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

Chart showing that approximately 8.5 times more Palestinian children have been killed than Israeli children

Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

Chart showing that 3 to 4 times more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis.

1,062 Israelis and at least 4,876 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present

8,341 Israelis and 33,034 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

Chart showing that Palestinians are injured at least four times more often than Israelis.

Daily U.S. Taxes to Israel and the Palestinians
Fiscal Year 2007

Chart showing that the United States gives over 26 times more assistance to Israel than to Palestinian development organizations.

During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than $6.8 million per day to Israel and $0.3 million per day to the Palestinians. (View Source)

UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
1955 - 1992

Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none. (View Source)

Chart showing that Israel has been targeted by over 60 UN resolutions, while the Palestinians have been targeted by none.

Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

Chart showing that Israel is holding over 8000 Palestinians prisoner.

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Source)

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Source)

Chart showing that 2202 Palestinian homes have been destroyed, compared to one Israeli home.

Current Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

Chart depicting the fact that the Palestinian unemployment is around 4 times the Israeli unemployment rate.

The Israeli unemployment rate is 7.3%, while the Palestinian unemployment is estimated at 23%. (View Source)

Current Illegal Settlements on the Other's Land

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and 'outposts' built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Source)

Chart showing that Israel has 227 Jewish-only settlements on Palestinian land.
Oh the bad bad palestines!! I can see that all they want to do is kill the israelis. NOOOOO They don't!! They want to stay as normal people!! They want to stay safe in the place they know as home. Is anyone aware that Palestinians don't even get the same right as Israelis??? They have this so called thing called democracy where they get to vote but they don't get things like land or get to use the same highway!! What would go through your mind if someone did that to you...in YOUR HOME. where you were born!
Edited by Perfangel5655 - 17 years ago

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