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Posted: 17 years ago
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why are we all forgetting there is no such thing as right and wrong?

to be quite honest i dont blame the betiyans for their act, infact if truth be told, all of us in this forum wouldve reacted fierdcely like this.

your sweet elder sister gets married, instead of a loving husband, she gets a guy who beats, rapes and tries to kill her. Y we all forgetting during this period of time, saraswati is naive and innocent, being bought up in a male dominant family, she was always considered inferior, these kind of things causes trauma in the mind and heart which SOMETIMES CAN NOT BE REPAIRED.

sisters who saw their sister suffer, they wont stay quiet, why should they, together they always stayed, eat sleep and living their life. sharing eachothers pain.

they sent Bhavishya away to Mental Asylum, he is a cold hearted psychopath and instead of being chained or geting any councelling he gets out of there for revenge, this shows that he is mentally stable but he has no feelings,

he enters back to the family and this time for revenge, he is slowly killing one sister, the tries to harm his daughter and turnign the other mad, he plays multiple tricks on the family.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! the sisters and mother loses there senses when they realised what happened here, do you seriously blame them, each and every duaghter has suffers, being a mother, with no family or husband support she bought her daughters up, you seriouly think she will let the perpetrator go away of course not, infact she would come after the life, same goes with saraswati, she also is a mother and bhav tried to kill her child, so naturally she will be vex. the sisters stadn united, they wont let go of bhavishya so easily.

they lured him into the temple, where bhav was screaming and laughing and saying in details what and how he has done injustice to them, you think they were enjoying listenign to that, am pretty sure, rage filled their heart but still they would not have killed if it wasnt for the fact that even though he was cornered and he could be put back in jail and all, he goes i will kill you and pushes Sav to the ground, what do you think, NO ONE and i mean no one can stadn it if anyone says anything to their mother and this guy pushes her and says i will kill you.

The sisters were clearly provoked for their act, being mentally stable does not mean you are sane all the time, there are times and places where someone actually loses their sanity because of the circumstances, they dont know what they are doing, the just do what that anger, frustration and hatred leads them to do, we might call it stupid, we might also call in disgusting but in true honesty in these kind of circumstances no one actully realises what they are doing. they kill, it is not self defense neither it is premediated killing, it is an act on the circumstance.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Kruthi thanks a lot for ur compliment.

I wont be surprised if the Betiyaan get out of it . They will . They will show a big court case , the Betiyaan coming in as heroines , [ the only thing missing wud be the halos around their heads }....a lawyer known for fighting for ' sachchaai ' hired by Surya , big big emotional dialogues that have nothing remotely to anything with law flung in court like ....

" Dekho ! Is MAA ke taraf dekho !! Kya iske chehre par jhoot ki jhalak dikhayee pad rahi hai ?? " { Judge here will stare at Savitri who will look back without blinking }

" Koun kehta hai yeh betiyaan sirf Naam ki Durga , gouri , Laxmi hai ! Nahi ur honour , Yeh Sachmuch ki deviyaan hain ! Samaaj ki gandagi inhone mitaake jurm nahi , samaj par upkaaar kiya hai ! Inko dekho ur honour ! Dekho ! " { Judge here will now blink like an idiot at the Betiyaan and jai jai kaali music will start .

The courtroom audience will clap like robotic morons .....Surya will wipe his tears .

And oh yea , the judge , blinking for the third time , will actually see devis now in the dock , and with a trembling hand sign the release papers of the Betiyaan and announce they have won .


If the way to punish Bhavishya the first time was to go back to him , sleep with him pretending to be Preeti , get pregnant , then why r u guys wondering that the very fertile imagination of the script writers will have to stress itself a lot to get the Betiyaan off from this one ???

😆 i cannot stop laughing after reading your post...its too funny!😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: teddyrumi

why are we all forgetting there is no such thing as right and wrong?

Maybe not in 'serials' but in real life as far as I am concerned there IS a right or wrong. And when said serial has the kind of influence Betiyaan does that too on such an impressionable audience, they SHOULD take responsibility in projecting the 'right' message.

to be quite honest i dont blame the betiyans for their act, infact if truth be told, all of us in this forum wouldve reacted fierdcely like this.[/Quote]

I don't know if you have read this thread in this entirety or not but at some point you should have noticed that a great deal of us DISAGREE with the way the 'Betiyaan' reacted, so unless we are all hypocrites we would NOT have reacted in such a way. I think that is a huge assumption on your part that doesn't hold any merit.

[Quote]your sweet elder sister gets married, instead of a loving husband, she gets a guy who beats, rapes and tries to kill her. Y we all forgetting during this period of time, saraswati is naive and innocent, being bought up in a male dominant family, she was always considered inferior, these kind of things causes trauma in the mind and heart which SOMETIMES CAN NOT BE REPAIRED.

sisters who saw their sister suffer, they wont stay quiet, why should they, together they always stayed, eat sleep and living their life. sharing eachothers pain.

they sent Bhavishya away to Mental Asylum, he is a cold hearted psychopath and instead of being chained or geting any councelling he gets out of there for revenge, this shows that he is mentally stable but he has no feelings,

he enters back to the family and this time for revenge, he is slowly killing one sister, the tries to harm his daughter and turnign the other mad, he plays multiple tricks on the family.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! the sisters and mother loses there senses when they realised what happened here, do you seriously blame them, each and every duaghter has suffers, being a mother, with no family or husband support she bought her daughters up, you seriouly think she will let the perpetrator go away of course not, infact she would come after the life, same goes with saraswati, she also is a mother and bhav tried to kill her child, so naturally she will be vex. the sisters stadn united, they wont let go of bhavishya so easily.

they lured him into the temple, where bhav was screaming and laughing and saying in details what and how he has done injustice to them, you think they were enjoying listenign to that, am pretty sure, rage filled their heart but still they would not have killed if it wasnt for the fact that even though he was cornered and he could be put back in jail and all, he goes i will kill you and pushes Sav to the ground, what do you think, NO ONE and i mean no one can stadn it if anyone says anything to their mother and this guy pushes her and says i will kill you.

The sisters were clearly provoked for their act, being mentally stable does not mean you are sane all the time, there are times and places where someone actually loses their sanity because of the circumstances, they dont know what they are doing, the just do what that anger, frustration and hatred leads them to do, we might call it stupid, we might also call in disgusting but in true honesty in these kind of circumstances no one actully realises what they are doing. they kill, it is not self defense neither it is premediated killing, it is an act on the circumstance.

I will re-state what many others have already, being wronged does NOT justify taking the law into your own hands. Keeping quiet, enduring inhumane amounts of punished for the sake of protecting the so called 'honor' of your husband who could care less about you, then taking extremely immoral actions for the sake of personal gratification and revenge is not 'shaakti' or 'women power', though if you were a woman in India watching this it just might be.

The 'Girls' planned on luring him to an isolated location with the intent of killing him, they didn't just come up with it on the 'spot' or as a result of something that happened directly in the temple, that is not losing control or protecting your self respect, that my friend if pre-mediated murder. I am sure with all the things they had heroicly endured to that point, anything that happened in that temple was insignificant, if they didn't kill him then, I am sure nothing in the temple that occured could have caused them to lose their senses. This was clearly a case of pre-mediated murder and the 'Girls' assuming the mantles of 'Devi's not just something that happened out of circumstance. They were fully aware and such they should be punished.

Edited by kurama - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i am not saying everyone will react the same way, to each it own. however i do believe that what has happened is unexplainable, there is no right or wrong, just like u and me have different views regardin what had taken place thats how there is no such thing as the right thing or the wriong thing.

you are right about the influence part, i am not sure if anyone mentioned this but this plot in the series reminds me of the film Provoked, so in assuming this i wrote what i felt like.

As for the law, the law is the reason why people go into crime and the law is the reason why people are scared to go into crime. there are time when people are dellusioned, there are times when they lose the mental balance, thats what I think what happened here.

as far as i am concerned, no sane person howver much suffered or what not will never do this kind of thing unless provoked or they suffered so much they dont care no more.

also, out of curiosity,this is nothing against anyone, what sort of punishment is there for a women, who suffered so much, to be punished, life imprisonment, 7 years, 4 years, on probation, hanged or what.

i neither respect these women neither disregard them, i dont respect them simple, if you used your minds earlier on ladies this day would not come, i dont disregard them because not all women are the same, some people suffer from the worse of cruelty and some not.

i am not a regular viewer if this drama, from what i have read from the beginning and to what is happening,
i just wrote what i felt like.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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teddyrumi , please read the whole thread ....from post no 1 . This discussion has been so far the most interesting one in this forum .....I urge u to read it and u then give me ur comments on the same . If ur thoughts r still not changed , Ill reply . 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I don't think that it was wrong for him to die, but i do think it was wrong for him to die in that way, because 2 wrongs don't make a right and they should have let God handle Bhav in his own hands 😭 . But I'm kinda proud of Saras in a way 👏 because if Bhav would have went to jail or the asylum he would escape over and over again like any other time and Saras would have to deal with his torture over and over again. 🤢

Hope you understand my post. It's kinda confusing! 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i give up on you guys,

i was just giving my thoughts in somehting, jeez. you take a level to another, you dont agree you dont agree simple, i am neither clarifying my views or saying to agree with me.

if it doesnt make sense to you then i am sorry for getting you confused.

so much hype.

oh well smile and be happy 😃
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Posted: 17 years ago
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teddyrumi ur getting us all wrong dear .

There r no levels and really , no one is counter attacking u or anything of the sort . It is fun actually , we r enjoying this enormously . Plzzz do keep posting ur views , actually i enjoyed reading them but since i have already given many posts in this thread i thought of telling u to read the full thread . It is even better than the updates ! 😊 kidding , but seriously I think this is the best discussion so far and the more diverse the views the better .

Actually urs was not even the opposite view ...it was somewhere in the middle . U gave an original thought ....that nothing is good or bad , it all depends on the point of view ....and u got sum replies , thats all . The replies came coz ur post was interesting and provoked thought .
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yes, teddyrumi... this discussion is one of the most interesting in quite a while. Your thoughts are just as important and was just as interesting to read as everyone elses... discussion is discussion and its not neccessary that everyone will think the same, thats why its called a debate after all :)
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Posted: 17 years ago
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You guys have been busy here! I can't reply to everything but here is what I have concluded:

Instead of killing him, the girls should have focused their efforts on the scum that released him in the first place. A person who knowingly releases a psychopathic killer is even worse than the killer himself. Whoever let him go was certainly in his senses but he did it anyway. For money.

Rather than "an eye for an eye," the girls could have used this incident to make a commentary on how corruption in the third world should not just be tolerated and accepted as a fact of life. If India ever wants to be thought of as a civilized country, it has to step up and reinforce the law of the land. An ordered society cannot function like this.

India has such a rich history of peace and non-violence. Let's not put an end to that. Let's uphold and embrace it.

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