KMTMG Discussions Thread #7 - Page 67

I think nothing serious will happen after the chandelier will fall, but as their plan will be flopped so they will try to kidnap Nimrit but Amruta will get an idea and will risk her life to save Nimrit and they both will be in trouble. And as we already saw Ishika's injured bts, so maybe she will try to help them and as Arjit shared that bts, so he will be there too.

Btw I also thought Jayesh's heart will be soften but they really shocked me yesterday,the way Ishika was behaving and even Deeksha in her recent interview said, her character got love and now her character will be changed so she hopes people will also give love to her new side character. Anyway, for me, in kmtmg Ishika is my favourite villain, who has the aura,class,sassy vibe and standard. It would be good if they gave Priyanka role to Ishika.

And one thing they probably will not change Jayesh character as Babita's character too will not be changed. They want to show the people who don't feel regret or sorry for their wrong doings, can't change themselves, no redemption for them at all. For me Jayesh is same cheap like Babita and they want to show fl's father and ml's mother are same level cheap. For Amruta,her dad was her idol and for Virat,his mom is his idol. The difference is Jayesh was unable to control Amruta but Babita is very much success to control Virat. Amruta for her father's sake or say her family's sake, broke her wedding with her fiance to support her father and that's why her father is unsuccessful to manipulate her, on the other side, Virat left his family for Priyanka's sake and that's why his mom is very much successful to manipulate him using his weak side. So for me, Jayesh and Babita are same level cheap or say worst characters in this serial so far.

I did see the thumbnail of that iv, but didn't listen. So she does change. Sahi hai. But yeah... like said in a previous post, have heard of women going through some big transformations after they learn they are pregnant. So... not weird.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Hmm... does look like Ishika will actually help Ammu. Saw a bts pic on X... source IG of sritijhafanturkey

Not surprising if its long term though... have heard pregnancy can change people. But strange ... we were expecting a change of heart in Jayesh, but seems like it will be Ishika. If genuine, I'll give it to the writers - a surprise from them... (last one was Nimmi marrying Rajeev, though that one felt more pleasant).

So Ishika is temporarily positive?! If it is genuinely intended from Cvs, it’s a surprise. Seeing as all she wanted from Chitnis family from the start was Jayesh’s love and support, and get Ammu and Harsh to call her their mother. Now that she is expecting a child of her own, the bitterness has slowly died down.

Why was Nimmi marrying Rajeev ‘pleasant’?! I felt disgusted that the 2 timing gold digger got successful into marrying into the Ahuja family.

Not 'pleasant' in the sense that it was good that he married her. Yeah, he did succeed in getting married but then given how all the Ahujas were at the time, felt like a well deserved one. I 'liked' that twist from the writers - hadn't expected getting married after getting exposed.

Promo posted in SM thread.

Read it.... Write whatever comes to your mind... We are all mature enough to handle anything...

Maybe im confused but morality I brought up was from writers. Its my view they deliberately deceive viewers palying with them. It doesn't appear to be in skilled way or in the interest of Art of script writing. @Adiandsid Nevermind if it triggered other thoughts. I can try respond but pls challenge me if I've misunderstood your post

1) Ishika chracter changing. This is a good life lesson I personally experianced with family members. Ishika saw Jayesh from the outside thinking Jayesh was not given respect he deserves by wife & children. Ishika will realise now after living with Jayesh for some time the horrors that Bhavani & children had to endure. It may not be preganancy that changed her but the realisation I've explained

2) Virat jayesh comparison. I defnitely agree & see similar character traits but there are differences I will discuss.This is a very broad topic but will break down in terms of both relationship with wives & individual character.

Relationship with wives- In a way Jayesh is more emotionally immature than virat. Aaji arranged 1st marriage then he was manipulated by Ishika. Why is Virat more mature? Think he beleives in love like Amu but didn't want to feel it after also manipulated by Ex. Unlike Jayesh, virat fights for his marriages like moving out with Ex. But something virat is worse at is hate. Jayesh hates less but shows disrespect to bhavani & disinterested in children.

Individual personalities MAIN DIFFERENCE -1 can say virat will be same as Jayesh in few 20 yrs Based in how virat treats his family. He would never lose interest or give up on his children like Jayesh. Already Virat lost Dad & sisters to Amu but still ok with it. If Virats children took Amu side- Hope he would do same like virat deals with Amu close to Dildar. Virat shows some care in Amu family but seems Jayesh cant even get along with his own mom & has no remorse for it

3) Divorce role reversal. Lets be direct here. I dont think virat cares too much if Amu has had sexual partners. He speaks about modern Dehli girls dancing on tables drunk &virat has travelled. Virat in my opinion is more concerned knowing Amu personality on how close Amu would be to any Ex bf in being intimate with them. Virat knows Amu is pretty but Ex is sort of also. Pretty is what made him look at Amu. Maybe he cant stop being near her for her observation on religious customs & her morals daily. SHORT POINT- If Amu had more experience being divorced & had Ex Bfs . She would have left virat after speaking to him few times not spending months with his BS.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

With them perhaps going for a change of heart in Ishika and arguably doubling down on Jayesh, reminded me about the 'morality' thing you talked about a few days back. So Jayesh is 'deplorable' but somehow Virat isn't? In fact he is someone to feel for? "His decision was right, but tareeka galat tha"? Think I never asked this before - it was Virat who was divorced. What if it was Ammu? Would Virat be the same with her from the beginning, even if he was divorced? He had a tough time hearing about her non-existent 'boyfriend'.

I Have a different view to Ishika changing. Theres more psychology in my opinion in addition to stuff in my 1st post added in italics blue. See Ishika is younger than Jayesh & even Babtia. Ishika this being 1st preganancy was expecting a reaction from Jayesh of 20 something newly wed. It didn't happen. Ishika cant change this with Jadhu or vitamins THIS IS HER PAYBACK cos she dumb. Its good. Ishika will now see Jayesh true personality with honeymoon period gone. Ishika is currently realising she did Bhavani & Amu favour by taking Jayesh forcing them to be independent. Ishika is trapped with horrible 50 yo stuck in ways Ishika cant change. Brilliant!!

1) Ishika chracter changing. This is a good life lesson I personally experianced with family members. Ishika saw Jayesh from the outside thinking Jayesh was not given respect he deserves by wife & children. Ishika will realise now after living with Jayesh for some time the horrors that Bhavani & children had to endure. It may not be preganancy that changed her but the realisation I've explained

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

I did see the thumbnail of that iv, but didn't listen. So she does change. Sahi hai. But yeah... like said in a previous post, have heard of women going through some big transformations after they learn they are pregnant. So... not weird.

Sorry correction... virat more emotionally mature than virat in terms of marraiges ... sorry for confusion

Originally posted by: sugz

Maybe im confused but morality I brought up was from writers. Its my view they deliberately deceive viewers palying with them. It doesn't appear to be in skilled way or in the interest of Art of script writing. @Adiandsid Nevermind if it triggered other thoughts. I can try respond but pls challenge me if I've misunderstood your post

1) Ishika chracter changing. This is a good life lesson I personally experianced with family members. Ishika saw Jayesh from the outside thinking Jayesh was not given respect he deserves by wife & children. Ishika will realise now after living with Jayesh for some time the horrors that Bhavani & children had to endure. It may not be preganancy that changed her but the realisation I've explained

2) Virat jayesh comparison. I defnitely agree & see similar character traits but there are differences I will discuss.This is a very broad topic but will break down in terms of both relationship with wives & individual character.

Relationship with wives- In a way Jayesh is more emotionally immature than virat. Aaji arranged 1st marriage then he was manipulated by Ishika. Why is Virat more mature? Think he beleives in love like Amu but didn't want to feel it after also manipulated by Ex. Unlike Jayesh, virat fights for his marriages like moving out with Ex. But something virat is worse at is hate. Jayesh hates less but shows disrespect to bhavani & disinterested in children.

Individual personalities MAIN DIFFERENCE -1 can say virat will be same as Jayesh in few 20 yrs Based in how virat treats his family. He would never lose interest or give up on his children like Jayesh. Already Virat lost Dad & sisters to Amu but still ok with it. If Virats children took Amu side- Hope he would do same like virat deals with Amu close to Dildar. Virat shows some care in Amu family but seems Jayesh cant even get along with his own mom & has no remorse for it

3) Divorce role reversal. Lets be direct here. I dont think virat cares too much if Amu has had sexual partners. He speaks about modern Dehli girls dancing on tables drunk &virat has travelled. Virat in my opinion is more concerned knowing Amu personality on how close Amu would be to any Ex bf in being intimate with them. Virat knows Amu is pretty but Ex is sort of also. Pretty is what made him look at Amu. Maybe he cant stop being near her for her observation on religious customs & her morals daily. SHORT POINT- If Amu had more experience being divorced & had Ex Bfs . She would have left virat after speaking to him few times not spending months with his BS.

Originally posted by: sugz

Maybe im confused but morality I brought up was from writers. Its my view they deliberately deceive viewers palying with them. It doesn't appear to be in skilled way or in the interest of Art of script writing. @Adiandsid Nevermind if it triggered other thoughts. I can try respond but pls challenge me if I've misunderstood your post

1) Ishika chracter changing. This is a good life lesson I personally experianced with family members. Ishika saw Jayesh from the outside thinking Jayesh was not given respect he deserves by wife & children. Ishika will realise now after living with Jayesh for some time the horrors that Bhavani & children had to endure. It may not be preganancy that changed her but the realisation I've explained

2) Virat jayesh comparison. I defnitely agree & see similar character traits but there are differences I will discuss.This is a very broad topic but will break down in terms of both relationship with wives & individual character.

Relationship with wives- In a way Jayesh is more emotionally immature than virat. Aaji arranged 1st marriage then he was manipulated by Ishika. Why is Virat more mature? Think he beleives in love like Amu but didn't want to feel it after also manipulated by Ex. Unlike Jayesh, virat fights for his marriages like moving out with Ex. But something virat is worse at is hate. Jayesh hates less but shows disrespect to bhavani & disinterested in children.

Individual personalities MAIN DIFFERENCE -1 can say virat will be same as Jayesh in few 20 yrs Based in how virat treats his family. He would never lose interest or give up on his children like Jayesh. Already Virat lost Dad & sisters to Amu but still ok with it. If Virats children took Amu side- Hope he would do same like virat deals with Amu close to Dildar. Virat shows some care in Amu family but seems Jayesh cant even get along with his own mom & has no remorse for it

3) Divorce role reversal. Lets be direct here. I dont think virat cares too much if Amu has had sexual partners. He speaks about modern Dehli girls dancing on tables drunk &virat has travelled. Virat in my opinion is more concerned knowing Amu personality on how close Amu would be to any Ex bf in being intimate with them. Virat knows Amu is pretty but Ex is sort of also. Pretty is what made him look at Amu. Maybe he cant stop being near her for her observation on religious customs & her morals daily. SHORT POINT- If Amu had more experience being divorced & had Ex Bfs . She would have left virat after speaking to him few times not spending months with his BS.

Yup. You did mean it in terms of writers deceiving the audience, and like you mentioned it triggered other thoughts - in this case, morality in what they are showing through the characters.

Good point on Ishika changing. Thats possible too - also the further angle you mentioned in the next post.

On Virat being fine with Amruta's past... hmm... I am not so convinced. But its possible too. Can leave the point there too. In general I dont like the angle in some shows and movies where the ML would've had a past but the FL is generally someone with no past relationships. But yes... if she had more experience in the past, she would've left him long back.

Point in bringing up Jayesh wasn't to compare the characters. What Jayesh did with Bhavani and his family was deplorable. What Virat did during the mela eps was deplorable. Can be argued Jayesh never backed out, he doubled down and continues to. Virat did double down too but can be said he learnt / is learning and perhaps correcting. But having the general tone that 'decision sahi tha, tareeka galat' which I feel is the stand they've taken with him ... hmm... doesn't sit well at all with me. [The mess they created with the mela eps.] Decision bhi galat tha - she had agreed for fake wedding, not a real / forced one.