"Mein" (ARY Digital) - Ayeza Khan, Wahaj Ali #4 [DT Note Pg 132] - Page 112

You’re right if we are just looking at this from Ayra’s side. However, Zaid has one too. So does MJ. They’re all to blame for being in this situation in the first place. You can’t expect a person who’s been through trauma and to be around the person who caused it all, with the knowledge that he’s out to get her and show her her place, and expect rational behavior 🤷‍♀️

Ayra’s never going to be more giving or balanced than Zaid and MJ because they’re not carrying the personal baggage she is. You said she’s a victim but not innocent - well a lot of that loss of innocence has to do with that family.

You take her behavior as her instigating Asif. But with the level of self sabotage she’s creating for her own relationship as well as mental health, I hardly think this is rational behavior in the first place - this is her derailing completely. She lost her job, the contract she was shown to work so hard for, her husband didn’t tell her about Turkey until the last minute and was okay with leaving her in this miserable state and her Bhabhi kept forcing her to play nice with her tormentor. Who very pointedly showed her her place yet again. That he’ll never accept her.
what happens? She snapped 🤷‍♀️

even not picking up Zaid’s calls - who in their right mind won’t do that? Even if all love is lost, you pick up the damn phone when your husband is in another country with another woman who also happens to be his wife. That’s just basic self preservation. But she didn’t - because all she felt was abandonment 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷‍♀️. It doesn’t matter how many times he calls , he held off telling her about this trip and left her with his dad. It’s all so very convenient so the writer can shove the next incidents down our throats - the lame Tom and Jerry Asif Ayra sequences.

I’m in no way defending Ayra here. Last week was entirely comical writing but I’m just saying that her irrational behavior has been deliberately put in by the writer - even if it’s ooc even if it makes no sense. Just like sexual assault trope today , everything that happens in the plot is just a convenient ploy for the writer to “get from A to B” Just imagine Ayra as the plot with whatever happening to her through whatever means being the deciding factor/turning point for the other characters.

She’s the pivot around which they all revolve lol.

As for audience feedback on MJ - people were rooting for the second marriage so I think there was a shift after the therapist scene, not before. But it fluctuates a lot based on who was right /wrong every week. MJ did get Ayra fired before the Turkey trip so of course audience still can’t trust her. The Ayra Asif games definitely shifted opinion but then just a week later it’s back to Ayra sympathies again. And just one day after we got Zaid MJ content. Since the torture was happening alongside, it just doesn’t sit right for many. Especially since they added Rayaan to the equation. Someone Zaid pointedly refused to deal with at the right time 🤦🏻‍♀️

I feel since the montage came out with MJ as the central character, the battle will be finally hers more than Zaid's.

Ayra is the biggest part of Zaid's mein that he built up to stand against the weaker part of his mein that suffered rejection...ok,rejection probably since you feel half the audience is not clear about it...I will explain about it.

With or without MJ, Zaid's ideas about love or rather the his statement that 'love is not important' - that's the central point the drama is addressing. We have MJ's pov on love too which has gradually changed. If she has changed at all, it's for love and not to get any character certificate from anyone. She didn't believe in love or thought it was a frivolous thought because she was sharp enough to see through silly admirers- she saw love as that silliness.

Zaid was saying 'love is not important '- that is different from MJ's pov that 'love is a silly emotion '.

What made Zaid think love is not important? Usually a person comes to that conclusion after they have had an experience with love and have been forced to overcome it. That's Zaid - the person who caused this to happen to him could be XYZ or MJ.

Where's Ayra in all this? Ayra was built up as this huge part of Zaid's mein...to create circumstances that would make a well meaning decent guy like him to make a mockery of his marriage to Mubashira and stand with his mein. Both of them had better options, but his mein that was manipulated by Ayra forced him to make MJ succumb to his and Ayra's demands. Ayra is still not important other than being a huge part of Zaid's mein that will drag him down. If she loved him, she should honestly have taken what he offered, rather than make demands. That is, if she loved him. She loved herself more than him. If Zaid loved Ayra or even himself or this idea of him and Ayra, he would never have allowed a broken person like Ayra to lead him to take such a drastic step. He would have simply divorced MJ and proposed to Ayra few months later when she had healed.

MJ is lucky she never was in love, so her actions could not be judged based on love. If she claimed to be mad about Zaid , she'd be scrutinized too for the circumstances of the polygamy. She was willing to take the gamble because Zaid's so called love story was already a joke...few I love yous and holding hands is NOT LOVE. Love requires making sacrifices without being a doormat. Zaid sacrificed his family for Ayra first and then he made a doormat of himself to accommodate her demands. Their love is a joke. There's no doubt about it.

Even now fans of the couple are demanding Justice for Ayra and saying he should hate his family for her. It was not Asif's fault what happened to Ayra...he didn't plan that. Only way he can deal with Rayaan is by ousting him silently, unless he's willing to accept this as Rayaan having fun outside marriage - he has always had the sick mentality that Zaid can have fun before marriage, but marry the socially right person. ( I don't know if he thinks few EMA here there is ok, unlikely since he reacted so violently even at the thought of having an affair...that's because he's unromantic and probably even asexual. He doesn't like things that take his focus away from his business...he's not a womaniser and Zaid was happy he found someone to love , like he was really happy for him.)

Coming to the current track, Zaid is asked to choose between his father's truth and Ayra's truth.

Zaid expects certain things from the people in his life. He knows what Asif is capable of, yet he loves him. He has studied MJ very carefully, knows all her faults, yet he loves her.

Zaid's idea about Ayra is totally different - she's this block of righteousness he's extremely proud of, if he gets to know about how she has violated his expectations, would he still respect her? He might justify her, but does he love her enough to respect her after he knows what she's capable of ...if it's a battle between good and evil, Ayra should have strictly stuck to her side.

Now it's a story about love, hopefully. Zaid should leave with her and it might happen in the most boring way, since Zaid actually looks exhausted.

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

Sexual harrasment was happening since last few weeks, assault happened today, it wasn't a new plot suddenly added there was a proper build up to it but I agree they are just using it as a tool to separate leads nothing else. You see how calm Zaid is with the news? He is asking Ayra to calm down, any other man would beat Rayyan to pulp for doing that to his wife, they turned sexual harrasment into a silly game of Zaid leaving the house instead of bringing charges against Rayyan. Same thing happened when Ayra's brother was killed, instead of bringing charges against Asif Zaid did drama of leaving home. Writer and director are disgusting so are all the actors for me for repeatedly down playing something so sensitive in their drama.

Zaid did show his anger when the cop harassed MJ

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

Zaid did show his anger when the cop harassed MJ

This particular scene confused me too. The scene, I assumed, was there to show that Zaid acknowledge Mubashira as his wife without any underlying obligation. But the contrast in his reactions baffled me. It was pretty clear that he was totally cool and composed when he rolled the glass down, he was about to ask the officer something when he noticed that Mubashira uncomfortably moved away from the officer's peeking. Now though she looked uncomfortable, Mubashira didn't complain and if she thought the officer was crossing the line - the MJ we knew could easily lashed out on the officer and taken care of herself. The incident, though should not have happened, can be considered as 'trivial (for lack of better words)' for Zaid to react the way he did - it was so un-Zaid-like to loose his cool and exude his power - he seemed really angry. And disparity of this reaction vs his mellowed down reaction to Ayra's declaration baffled me. Agreed, the man in question was his sister's husband, not anyone random - but why didn't he react the way he did and why his reactions to these two incidents were so contradicting? The only explanation was the writer wanted to drown him in guilt when she pulled her cheap stunt - nothing else explains the contradiction (I even tried to justify it thinking he may be more possessive with MJ with his suppressed feelings, hence more aggressive reaction was warranted. But with Ayra's incident there was no reaction at all!)

I found that scene to be quite sweet. Yes, he's way more possessive about Mubashira than he's about Ayra ..though it's only in his subconscious mind. He won't even look at what he has suppressed for so long, but it comes out like this when he feels protective about her.

He didn't have to follow her to Mohib's place and protect her...he would have done that for Kashmala and Ayra. This didn't happen randomly happen in front of him. He made sure he followed her since he knew she was really upset...that he would do for very few people.

When Ayra told him about Rayaan, there was nothing concrete. It didn't happen in front of his eyes. He was not sure. He thought he'd investigate later. If he had seen it happen in front of his eyes, he'd have hit him then and there.

Never expected Zaid to sit there and listen to this injustice. We all thought he'd get into aggressive saviour mode, but it has been presented in a different manner. His father, his FIL, his sister are all making counterpoints here instead of being silent bystanders...

Asif is smart...really smart. Instead of playing defence, he has conveniently presented himself as a victim too. Yes, there is a question of moral grounds, but here he is playing a ruthless game to get his son out of the clutches of a middle class girl who took 5 Cr from him, humiliated him by joining a rival company and just recently shocked him with how low she can go to get back at him. In Asif's eyes, he's justified in what he's doing. I hope Kashmala roasts him when she learns the truth. Zanjabeel is apparently very serious when it comes to handling molestation in her previous scripts.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I found that scene to be quite sweet. Yes, he's way more possessive about Mubashira than he's about Ayra ..though it's only in his subconscious mind. He won't even look at what he has suppressed for so long, but it comes out like this when he feels protective about her.

He didn't have to follow her to Mohib's place and protect her...he would have done that for Kashmala and Ayra. This didn't happen randomly happen in front of him. He made sure he followed her since he knew she was really upset...that he would do for very few people.

When Ayra told him about Rayaan, there was nothing concrete. It didn't happen in front of his eyes. He was not sure. He thought he'd investigate later. If he had seen it happen in front of his eyes, he'd have hit him then and there.

Never expected Zaid to sit there and listen to this injustice. We all thought he'd get into aggressive saviour mode, but it has been presented in a different manner. His father, his FIL, his sister are all making counterpoints here instead of being silent bystanders...

Asif is smart...really smart. Instead of playing defence, he has conveniently presented himself as a victim too. Yes, there is a question of moral grounds, but here he is playing a ruthless game to get his son out of the clutches of a middle class girl who took 5 Cr from him, humiliated him by joining a rival company and just recently shocked him with how low she can go to get back at him. In Asif's eyes, he's justified in what he's doing. I hope Kashmala roasts him when she learns the truth. Zanjabeel is apparently very serious when it comes to handling molestation in her previous scripts.

We saw Rayaan's monologue. He hates his family. ( We didn't need to know it since it is unrelated to his molestation attempt) Exactly as Ayra screamed - he's not even going to be saga to MJ. ( She didn't have to involve MJ here) This is a very important twist we can expect. Rayaan might emerge to be the biggest villain in this story and he's not even going to spare Mubashira to save himself.

Everything aside,am I only one who is finding it ridiculous that Jaffar is suddenly showing his fatherly support for Rayyan?The way he was shouting in the precap that questioning Rayyan means questioning him,it was .As if has brought up both his children well.Tarbiyat toh kuch Nahi ki isne aur Asif ne apne bacchon ka.The audacity!

Originally posted by: G259

Not witnessing with own eyes is not an excuse to not take action against Rayyan.Zaidd was wrong in not dealing with him then.He is also somewhat responsible for Ayra facing what she did yesterday.

He never said he won't take action. He said he will deal with it, but never got the time to deal with it. Too many things happened all of a sudden.

Dealing with a family member accused in molesting another family member requires a lot of discussion and tact. Plus he was not sure if Ayra misunderstood it....and that's very real. If she went and told Kash also she'd think she overreacted. Only MJ would have taken her accusation seriously.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

We saw Rayaan's monologue. He hates his family. ( We didn't need to know it since it is unrelated to his molestation attempt) Exactly as Ayra screamed - he's not even going to be saga to MJ. ( She didn't have to involve MJ here) This is a very important twist we can expect. Rayaan might emerge to be the biggest villain in this story and he's not even going to spare Mubashira to save himself.