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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123
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Don't know if it is shared before
Yes it was.. but it's ok 😳
Can look at YumHaj again
Originally posted by: shruti46
Reading the discussion here about slap scene. I can never ever like a person who has slapped me . I am one of those who has never been "slapped"by parents Or teachers.pitayi hui hai but thappad nahi🤣Slap is utmost humiliation atleast for me.
He had to make her come out of stupor vahi pool tha usmai fek deta😛
jor se hilana, chillana kuch bhi.SH people said this thing very correctly viewers didn't knew murtasim 's qualities & he has a lot of then compared too normal Ptv leads but makers knew what they were going to show. They should have skipped slap scene. And to justify it by saying ki vo us thappad ke baad uske pyar mai pad is even more stupid.
I cannot tell you how glad I am to read this. I feel this is something that still needs to be understood in 2023 and it just makes me so so sad…It’s almost like slapping someone is normal. It’s not…let’s not normalize it, please. This is exactly how the whole Eve teasing has been normalised in india for a long time. You know when guys says pseudo feminism I keep telling them how many things have been normalised for women - Eve teasing, slapping, rape, …each and everything that is a violation of a woman’s self respect, itna ki women have forgotten what is self respect. And all in the name of “gaining” or “getting” the girl - to “make” her mine.
Even here, end of the day, no matter what Murtasim is, he does it all to “get” the girl, ways to “imprison” her ..and we state that is how he loves. But somewhere we are conditioned to believe this is the way we must be loved. This is because of how much we are made to believe that love is letting go of ourselves.
The word “haasil” is used towards the girl instead of using it towards love. Ladki koi chiz ya aspiration nahi hoti ki tum haasil karne chal pade, pyaar ko haasil kiya jaata hai, ladki ko nahi. The minute we said, the woman is the aspiration, the man will do anything to gain her, we have automatically diminished her feelings, her wants, her desires. What if her aspiration was not love, but something else. She is “made” to give in to his love, then this isn’t the two way street.
In fact, in movies and shows, a woman aspiring for a man and not love, is often painted as a villain. After all, we would question Meerab if her aspiration was Murtu, who btw is Haya’s aspiration.
Of course because Murtasim is a hero so the way he wants to achieve Meerab is romantic whereas the way Haya wants to achieve Murtasim is not, because she isn’t the heroine. Even here, the conditioning or storytelling is the man is given the advantage.
This is why stories have the whole separation angle where a woman has to walk away from the man to gain some amount of dignity, but what a regressive thought, that even here a woman must go through abject pain and suffering to regain her dignity while a man can redeem himself in the comforts of his own abode while his only suffering is him pining for his love.
Ladkiyan haasil karne ke liye nahi hoti. Ladkiyan ki apni khud ki pehchaan hoti hai, unhe khud kayi chizei haasil karni hoti hai. Pyaar haasil karne ki chiz jisse dono milke karte hai.
PS - moonks- I cannot imagine what it must be to be in your position, but I do hope you are gaining some help, therapy etc, I am sending you lot of love.
I guess you haven't scene director and writer iv there is a way of story writing and thus story is being written from male's pov as writer said male gaze is being given more importance...
And thankfully it did becoz many movies as well as stories being written as per female pov so its refreshing to see someone explored opposite gender's pov,their journey and vulnerabilities....
Except female oriented movies, almost all movies are written in male pov or from a general pov.
It's okay to write a story from the male perspective but tere bin is throwing the female lead under the bus in that process. The director and writer themselves are blaming meerab for the slap and the car accident when both of this happened because murtasim cannot keep his anger under check. They aren't holding him accountable for his own actions. His anger management issues are projected as machoism.
Most love stories we grew up watching are from male perspective. Even Kabir Singh which is made completely on the male perspective don't blame Preeti for Kabir's anger management issues and his self destruction mode. He was the sole reason for his own destruction. Dil se is also completely from a male perspective but the writing of the female lead is never compromised in the process, veer-zara movie is narrated by veer, kal ho na ho's story progresses through Aman but in none of this the fl is not unnecessarily sacrificed to elevate the male lead. Ranjaana is a movie entirely from the perspective of khundaan's one sided love for Zoya and a lot of people hated Zoya for what she did to khundan but the movie clearly showed why Zoya hated khundan and why she did what she did even though we never got any pov from zoya's side. Zoya's entire love for abhay's character was shown through a 2-3mins song.
Here, every justification for all of murtu's problematic act ends with blame on meerab's impulsiveness or naiveness or stupidity or brattiness. But murtasim is never held accountable for meerab's actions and reactions. Meerab fired at murtasim before the slap because murtasim tried to forcefully stop her multiple times, meerab ended up speaking at the punchayat because murtasim kept her in the dark, meerab pushed back murtu in the bed because he pulled her closer.
Movies are only 2-3hrs long and by the end they manages to show the perspective of the fl as well. But dramas are 30-40 episodes long and they cannot keep the pov of the fl completely unexplored till the last episode. If they dedicate 5 episodes on the pov of the ml then they should dedicate atleast 10mins on the fls pov when it's a love story. Everything we know about meerab are our own analysis and assumptions and not something shown to us by the makers. The drama finished 22 episodes and we still don't know exactly where meerub stands in the relationship and with her feelings for murtu. In one scene they show meerab wants to leave this marriage, in another she is showing her haq on murtu as his wife infront of haya, she is shown to be cold towards her parents and then she decides to leave with them when murtu wasn't listening to her and when murtu took her back home she went back to being mad at her parents. We don't know where Anwar stands in her life. She runs to him when she needs him and then no scenes at all. We have to even analyse the iv and pov of the writer and the director to conclude why meerab is acting the way she does. Did we understood Raj and simran's actions and love for each other after the writer and director did an elaborated iv on why these characters did this and what is the importance of a particular scene is?
Originally posted by: Kumuda-123
https://twitter.com/YumnaZaidi_Zone/status/1608090953361002497?t=mnm0Ts3veMsUeaEyTa9bHw&s=19
Yumna knew it from beginning that murtu will get lots of love🥺. The reason she wanted wahaj to do the role.
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