Aik Sitam Aur(Thread 6) Usama Khan, Anmol Baloch ( ARY Digital ) - Page 84

Originally posted by: spnfan

As I said in some previous posts, Naima was completely right on saying ushna and shehroze are very similar. They both have blind trust on their mothers, both are temperamental and both fight with each other like cat and mouse.

It is Ushna's blind trust on zainab that she didn't even doubt that her mother can steal the jewellery even though the proof was right out there. So we cannot blame shehroze for blindly trusting Naima either. Also shehroze till now didn't had any reason not to trust Naima. He sees Naima s outburst with divorce as a one time thing and he things she did that purely because she wants the best for him.

If ushna can easily get manipulated by someone like sufiyan and go against zainab then shehroze getting manipulated by Naima is a cake walk. Both shehroze and ushna are capable of saying extremely hurtful and disrespectful things while being angry and not just shehroze. How can we forget that she told zainab she isn't a mother simply because she didnt give birth to ushna, called her a gold digger and she also blamed her for not telling about her biological mother. Then why are we expecting shehroze to not say disrespectful things to ushna. Their relationship isn't that old and they have always been extreme with each other while fighting. They both hit at each other where it hurts.

So unless shehroze dont physically hurt ushna or demean her to the lowest( not disrespect) he can easily be forgiven.

And thank you for saying that. After your post, i started to see things in different light than I was before. Now, things are more clear for me.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

that is a good point about deal breakers because it is not the same per person. I refer back to spnfan's post where she mentioned none of the drama women seem to have self-respect enough to divorce. but while it may be down to lack of financial options, maybe self-respect is too far for some? I find it strange that a family can have izzat, a man have izzat but very few dramas how a woman can also have izzat. instead, her need for izzat, honour is treated like a problem instead. 🤷

but what do folks think are the deal breaks for ushna and zainab?

If zainab is capable of forgiving her brothers for the atrocities they did on her then she will easily forgive wahab for not trusting her enough. In his defence he don't know her for enough time to trust her blindly and he did stand up for her when she needed someone.

I guess the only deal breaker for zainab is if wahab himself starts believing ushna is not worth his son because of her blood and says something demeaning towards ushna and zainab or like most pak dramas raise his hands on her.

With shehroze also the same. Him being disrespectful with ushna when he is angry is not that big of a deal since ushna is also fully capable of being disrespectful when she is angry. But if he also points finger at ushna's character on the basis of her blood then that will be a low move. That means he also himself kind of believe that ushna is inferior to him because of her blood and that will be very low of him. He will erase everything he did for her when all this was revealed. Till now, in all the fights he still trust her love for him and he should keep that trust on her. Also again i hope he don't slap her or even raise his hands on her. Wahab and shehroze don't come off as men that will physically assault a woman out of anger. They both seems to have basic respect for any women. Even with sadaf shehroze did maintain a basic decency while she was character assassinating ushna in his office. But pak dramas showcase slapping a woman by her husband as not a big deal.

I heard that the ML in rang mahal slapped the FL even before marriage and she still ended up with him. That itself made me not want to continue watch that drama.

Damn ,i am adding points.

One more and major reason why Zainab chose Shehroz was Ushna will be there in front of her eyes. After getting betrayed by her own brothers, Zainab somewhat lose faith. She couls have tried finding a groom for Ushna but how many would have accepted Ushna after knowing her adoption reality, what is the guarantee ,the groom and her in laws even after marrying Ushna would have treated her nicely and most important part, how early she would have found a groom for Ushna when Sufian and Family was after her. She saw everything in Shehroz then which she wanted. Shehroz did not have any issue with Ushna being adopted, neither wahab and naima then. She saw Wahab and Naima leaving their son for Ushna. Her faith on Shehroz strengthened when he took her to the hospital, she saw him being responsible.. She saw Shehroz fighting with Sufian for Ushna. She never took Shehroz's hurtful talks seriously as she saw the same in Ushna ,she even told Ushna once , both of them are "Jasbati" and they speak things without thinking. She saw reflection of Ushna in Shehroz . So , Shehroz was obviously the best choice for her at that point.

Originally posted by: spnfan

If zainab is capable of forgiving her brothers for the atrocities they did on her then she will easily forgive wahab for not trusting her enough. In his defence he don't know her for enough time to trust her blindly and he did stand up for her when she needed someone.

I guess the only deal breaker for zainab is if wahab himself starts believing ushna is not worth his son because of her blood and says something demeaning towards ushna and zainab or like most pak dramas raise his hands on her.

With shehroze also the same. Him being disrespectful with ushna when he is angry is not that big of a deal since ushna is also fully capable of being disrespectful when she is angry. But if he also points finger at ushna's character on the basis of her blood then that will be a low move. That means he also himself kind of believe that ushna is inferior to him because of her blood and that will be very low of him. He will erase everything he did for her when all this was revealed. Till now, in all the fights he still trust her love for him and he should keep that trust on her. Also again i hope he don't slap her or even raise his hands on her. Wahab and shehroze don't come off as men that will physically assault a woman out of anger. They both seems to have basic respect for any women. Even with sadaf shehroze did maintain a basic decency while she was character assassinating ushna in his office. But pak dramas showcase slapping a woman by her husband as not a big deal.

I heard that the ML in rang mahal slapped the FL even before marriage and she still ended up with him. That itself made me not want to continue watch that drama.

Bold what 😳 I guess i missed this . That is too low. Glad Usama did not do that

I guess, for me at least ,

Discussing story and characters >>>>>>Discussing actors 😂😂

Originally posted by: 28Vibha

Amazing comments raised both by Renee and Mango. Apologies ladies due to my limited status I thought to respond to both to you here. That way I am adding all the points. Until my account gets reinstated, I guess I will need to compromise and it’s not my strongest suit 😂😂

I think deal breaker depends on each person. For some it’s love, others security, others respect. I recall one of my mum’s friend found out her husband cheated on her and got that other woman pregnant and said to his wife that he will not divorce her but that other woman is his de-facto partner. She was so casual about it I was very surprised that how can you allow yourself to be in that relationship where there is no love or respect. She said I grew up very poor and lived in a trailer park and all I want is a home, money to live very well, and a status and this man gives me all three. He can take his love and shove it where the sun don’t shine I don’t care. So I asked but didn’t you love him when you married him and she goes maybe for a month but I knew he cheats so I went into this with my eyes open. I don’t want to work and he will fight me tooth and nail for alimony so that’s a no too. This works and I will go find me a man too. I was shocked and disgusted to be honest.

When I met my husband there was one thing for me- a marriage similar to what I saw my parents had. My criteria is respect - that’s my deal breaker. But if he were to cheat then I know he doesn’t respect me or my love so I am out, if he gets abusive that means no respect for me and I bail. With my ex he told me he was attracted to another and he finds if he continues being with me he may cross that line and he respects me enough to not do that. We broke up and he is still a good friend. I respect that - tell me straight up and we good otherwise I will kick you out the door and take you to the cleaners and then I will take your respect too. But I have the financial security and a great support system who will have my back when I do all this. For some, that may not be the case.

Here I think zainab is stressed maybe because she doesn’t want to be a failure. Why I say that because her relationship with her brother only mended when she decided to defy wheelchair bandit and her brother had an attack. Romeo is her nephew one she probably saw growing up and that’s another love. Ushna her non biological child but she cared for her like anything so that proves that zainab when in love loves dearly. I think she cares for Wahab but it’s not love. She is too unaffected when he takes that bandits side.

I think for her the deal breaker is Ushna. The minute she realises Ushna’s marriage is going south that’s when she will give in to save Ushna’s marriage. Then Wahab whilst she may miss him he will take second place. Same with Ushna she loves Shehroz but her mother is her deal breaker. She is tolerating because I think she doesn’t think the issues can’t be fixed. To her she knows it’s her blood that’s bothering that blood sucking leech who thinks she is unworthy but she also knows she has her husband’s and mothers support. The minute she feels her mum’s place is not that secure and her leaving will make it better she will go too.

On another point, I noted that in PTV, they don’t show many self respecting characters that leave when that is affected. I guess everyone is different otherwise why would anyone want a silly hamza or the before or even after Shehroz? Drama wise it’s okay but I saw posts saying I want hamza and I thought whaaaaa - that guy is nice but that’s it nothing special 😂😂

For me love is respect as we were raised to respect ourselves and with that love will follow. If you can’t respect me enough to be loyal, kind, gentle, caring then you are not worthy of my love and you can leave. I will grieve the time spent but I will move on. Like Gloria Gaynor said “I will survive “ that’s my theory lol 😂

For my mothers friend love was irrelevant, and so was respect to her security mattered. For my friends cheating is deal breakers and for some it’s lying. So it depends and I think as you mature you have better understanding. Poor Shehroz or Ushna has nothing to compare whereas zainab had her first husband who was amazing.

So here I think one love needs a lot of growing up to do and another is more of a caring cold (like not hot) relationship.

@Renee @Mango @spnfan

Ptv male leads have set such a low standard that a very normal guy like humza looks like the ultimate goal. Humza came and became popular at a time when danisha and Feroze are giving hit after hit playing extremely toxic characters.

Originally posted by: spnfan

Ptv male leads have set such a low standard that a very normal guy like humza looks like the ultimate goal. Humza came and became popular at a time when danisha and Feroze are giving hit after hit playing extremely toxic characters.

In aye musht e khak, Feroze even gets the girl 😆 he only redeems after her girl gets shot 😆 while the whole time, he lies to her ,manipulates 😆

In kahin Deep Jalay, imran ashraf kicks the girl out, just because he thinks he cant become a father out of misunderstanding from the reports and blames the girl to have relationship with other man, the girl loses her child and they still end up together.

Both the dramas were blockbuster hits 😆

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

I guess, for me at least ,

Discussing story and characters >>>>>>Discussing actors 😂😂

same! I also have selective memory in that I forget many of the actors names after a while. 😂😂

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

vibha -- that is a great point about a family relationship being a dealbreaker. learned something new here as I never considered that before. 👏❤️

if farooq had been alive, zainab and ushna would have a regular relationship. ushna would have gotten married and made her own home eventually. but because farooq died and they had mistreatment at the brothers, zainab and ushna became survivors, comrades and a tight unit. then with the adoption fallout, it only strengthened the feelings of motherhood in zainab. she is adamant and very firm about her mamta and and her role as a mother. with ushna also, it has resolved her feelings towards zainab (and farooq) as parents and the bonds are very secure.

now here is my question -- why do see ushna-zainab as a healthy dealbreaker that we don't find any issue with? whereas with shehroze-naima, we see it as unhealthy?

I guess it's probably because zainab don't interfere with ushroze marriage like Naima does. Also ushna don't go around telling zainab about her inner feelings about shehroze. Infact ushna is never shown to share her exact feelings with anyone until shehroze came in. I guess the first time she truly opened up was when shehroze came to console her after the daadi fiasco. We still don't know what exactly was going on in her head when she asked sufiyan to try and win over zainab. She clearly didn't seem to have any romantic feelings for him. The makers don't show ushna's inner feelings the way they show shehroze's.

Except for forcing ushna to marry shehroze, zainab hasnt been overly involved in ushna's life. Whereas Naima is overly involved in shehroze's life. Zainab does give space to ushna as a parent and Naima don't.

Both the children have blind trust on their mothers but one is not taking advantage of that blind trust and the other is.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

same! I also have selective memory in that I forget many of the actors names after a while. 😂😂

Hehe, i dont forget names but actors are only relevant to me till the characters. I know , as much as i am appreciating Usama and Anmol as of now, i will do the same for another set of actors who will play such characters to discuss in depth..i will forget about Usmol till they come up with such disscussion worthy characters 😂😂