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💯 with you on that one.

Originally posted by: sherry_24

I'll comment on this in 2 parts combining both your comments. Because I'm there with you on it mostly, but I do have a different take as well. Exclude the acting bit because that again creates complexity in perspectives.

1. In Sai's case I believe if he had any prior indication he would have worked out something to avoid her arrest. It was the element of surprise that got him. While in SH's case he had time to think through. SH involvement in Sada's activity is a grey topic. It had contradicting versions throughout the track. The difference here wrt V's response can be credited to the stakes. In SH's case it was her pregnancy, her vulnerable state. And while V was risking his career, for SH it was a do or die situation. Either they get away from getting caught which she would have anyways if V didn’t jump in or escapes. Might as well take that chance at it.

But in Sai's case, it is not just his career, it is Sai's career, her dreams and reputation at stake. Here he is trying to ensure that she gets out unscathed. Any out of line action from his end runs the risk of jeopardising all that for her. With Jagtap's involvement he is even more concerned, because now their actions are being watched for a slip to be levelled against them. Hence, he was restraining himself from going all out at Jagtap. They already have an allegation that V will use his position to bail out his wife. So he has to be careful there for Sai's sake.

2. One of my biggest complaints is V's inability and weak stand against his family when they insult Sai. I wouldn’t say he hasn’t done anything for her or to protect her interests. But most of the times his tone and words are short of conviction. He doesn’t appear that strong in her defence. His approach may change while supporting Sai and SH in front of his family. Not because what they mean to him but what each of them mean to his family. For SH he doesn’t really need to ensure a long lasting, cordial relationship with his family. But he wants a happy and heathy relationship between Sai and his family. So every time he fights them it riles up the family and he thinks that trying to persuade them is a better approach. That is fine. But instances that I cant agree with are the one from today, where BK and P were taunting and accusing her and he barely had a retort in her support. There was nothing to lose and he was well aware of her mental state, her vulnerable situation. She was quiet and taking it all, and he had to be her voice there. These are situations where I fail to see him worthy. He is too dismissive towards the name callings and harassment of Sai.

I give him benefit of doubt today that he was at his work place around his colleagues & didn’t want CN style drama

Originally posted by: Nja91

Yea. Sai was there, V was there. So why not show an extension of them talking about the day's events rather than bk, pp showing up to do nautanki.

I really didn't sense that desperation from V to get Sai out of the cell.

I thought the khaana khilana would have been ok if they had also focused on him getting info, some long shots of him pacing around, talking on the phone animatedly, looking at some files- something which suggest he was actually doing some work to get Sai out.

Now like you said it looks like he is consoling Sai over some small matter like exam mein marks kam agaye.

Medical negligence is not murder but even if Sai is proven negligent her entire career is threatened. Does he realize the magnitude.

Jagtap can sabotage the post mortem report, he can sabotage the investigation, tamper evidence or witnesses that possibly are important. If he could get out despite being in jail for murder of a police officer with full evidence- enough witnesses then this is a small matter.

Why wasnt he shown thinking about these things.

And if he says I'm always with you only to stand mute as PP, BK speak crap, it all falls flat.

The character V is a lost cause since many months...He is the only character that disconnect from the show..

Problem is vanker has not done anything to redeem him or any character progression..

The golden goose name "Ghum" but ruined by them only.. Everyone is responsible.. Channel, ph and actors. 👎🏼

Originally posted by: sherry_24

That is where that one scene where Jagtap refers to Sai as a fish that keeps slipping out of his hand, V has tears forming in his eyes (that was another scene i liked from today's episode). He is feeling helpless, unable to shut down Jagtap who has was harassing, threatening and demeaning his wife in his presence. The one who vowed to protect and stand by her was tied and incapable in his response for her sake.

Infact Jagtap wanted that - provoke Virat in such a way that he gets to kill 2 birds in one stone

Originally posted by: Nja91

He couldn’t have avoided Sai’s arrest or the charges against her. She will have to go through the legal route. But the issue is HIS body language, desperation, drive to get Sai out that needs to be shown and the intention to prevent his family from insulting her when she is already so vulnerable and exhausted. That’s where makers fail time and time again.

Also He had little planning even in Shruti’s case. He just kept lying and never revaluating his choices. And that’s the other big flaw of V. Zero introspection.

His Sahi waqt is never planned. His Sahi waqt is always a mess and always when he cannot handle stuff anymore.

To me it looks like there are multiple reasons why V's character has gone wrong since many months now... almost from Shruti track...

1. I agree that they changed the story midway which is why Nivaan left... so maybe the track would have ended differently.

2. From what I know of KD, Shruti was innocent... not a gang member directly. They flipped it here and committed the biggest mistake. Ghum wali Shruti was an active member. Had it been similar to KD, there would have been still some ounce of sympathy for Shruti and V.

3. They couldn't rectify this mistake, got confused and resulted in the worst written characterization for the ML. Copy paste needs brains when the basic premise is different.

4. The dragging of the episodes, I would like to believe that NB himself wasn't convinced of the plot but was busy personally and must not have had time for homework or to rectify. That led to poor acting and sloth pace which just irritated everyone.

5. Lastly, the timing of the track... In KD it came much later, so Rono's behaviour with Emon in the pre holi track was justified because they had a proper conjugal relationship and she still did not trust him. This is not the case in ghum. So V's anger at Sai seems illogical and so does her guilt.

6. They have left Shruti open ended as of now. So I do feel she will comeback and that would be the trigger for Sai to finally realise how wronged she was.... and the conversation that we all want will happen then. 😭

P.S. Point no 4.. is purely from his practical inability to give enough time... not a comment on offscreen equation. I would appreciate if people responding to it do not bring it up either.

There is a dialogue from Sai today, not once but twice to Virat. Once in the episode and once in the promo.

Jagtap ne mujhse apne aaba aur 'zindagi' cheenli hain. Did I see both the times, Virat kind of looked hurt? I know, even though KD is dialogue rich show where every dialogue has an emotion and reaction associated to it, Ghum writers might lack that insight. So may be I am looking too much into the dialogues and the expression as well. But just asking for the sake of clarification. If Sai meant 'zindagi' cheen li or destroyed her life, what does she imply? I would definitely get hurt if I was in Virat's position. The expression of those words at this stage has potential to hurt because she was talking about her 'missed' life where Virat would not be a part. Kind of struck me hard when she spoke. So asking whether anyone felt the same.

Disclaimer: People here might know I love both Sai and Virat characters equally, accepting that VIrat has more shortcomings. This is a genuine doubt on the dialogue. And I also know how much Sai loves Virat.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

There is a dialogue from Sai today, not once but twice to Virat. Once in the episode and once in the promo.

Jagtap ne mujhse apne aaba aur 'zindagi' cheenli hain. Did I see both the times, Virat kind of looked hurt? I know, even though KD is dialogue rich show where every dialogue has an emotion and reaction associated to it, Ghum writers might lack that insight. So may be I am looking too much into the dialogues and the expression as well. But just asking for the sake of clarification. If Sai meant 'zindagi' cheen li or destroyed her life, what does she imply? I would definitely get hurt if I was in Virat's position. The expression of those words at this stage has potential to hurt because she was talking about her 'missed' life where Virat would not be a part. Kind of struck me hard when she spoke. So asking whether anyone felt the same.

Disclaimer: People here might know I love both Sai and Virat characters equally, accepting that VIrat has more shortcomings. This is a genuine doubt on the dialogue. And I also know how much Sai loves Virat.

I dont want to get into depths of this track, because certainly it needed a deeper understanding of Virat's character. I debated and lost several times trying to provide my perspective :). I think you also know many of my points there.

In short, my reasons are

1. Virat's emotions with respect to Sai are so vulnerable at that point of time, that in no way he could have lost her to Sruthi. Impossible! He was waiting for love, to be her husband and start a conjugal life with her. Any slight indication from her in that direction would not be missed by him. But, Vankar introduced MiMo track intelligently to show that while it helped sai to overcome Pakhi and see Virat without any prejudice, it made Virat resigned to be just her friend. Sruthi track needs to be seen in conjunction with MiMo track to understand Virat's inablity to understand Sai better. But there are no intelligent dialogues to support this! MiMo track was lost in the mess and dragging during Sruthi track. Unfortunate.

2. There is no clear indication either in dialogues or in monologues why Virat made such decisions. For me, from the beginning it appeared Virat chose his friendship over being a police officer. Vankar too confirmed it later. He could be only one person at that time and he chose to be a friend. I understood the whole story from that PoV, so his decisions made sense. Majority did not see him like that. Again writing failed him.

3. Pakhi's talk to Sai on Diwali night was not replayed at all, not even once during the Sruthi fiasco . This is the main reason Sai could not trust him enough or give him time. Ayesha in SBS interview mentioned clearly that it is this doubt that made her behave the way she was doing. Pakhi's mischeif is not accounted for and the burden of trust is entirely shifted to Sai... which is completely wrong. The focus was shifted to friction between SaiRat rather than the actual cause of friction.

4. This reason I dont want to assume to be true but cant deny either completely. NeilAish's wedding did play some role in dragging the track a bit. And he was in a too much happy space to play the Virat we needed in Sruthi track.

These are the reasons I believe that made the track difficult to accept. But Vankar did make some intelligent decisions as a creative director. MiMo track if I look back is really creative, the way Pakhi was sidelined here is too good. And he did not show Sai trusting Virat completely which I think is crucial. Sai never believed she could be Virat's choice. Her insecurities were addressed beautifully through this painful track. But Virat's character arc suffered the most because we could not accept that the Virat who was desperately waiting for Sai's love could lose her to Sruthi!! This did not fit. It needed better writing and writers failed here to bring Vankar's vision to the screenplay.

PS: I decided to not respond to Sruthi's track in MF. It is a sensitive topic. But it showed some good creativity from Vankar that could not be translated well. So I was tempted to share my views.

I totally felt the same... Didn't see much of the reaction from V as you said... but yes, if he reflects... he should be offended a bit.. Not because she means that he is not a good thing in her life but because she imagines her life without him would be better. The kind of guy V is he would have totally reacted otherwise if this had happened before confession.

But now, I think he understands she said it in flow and that's why he didn't react much...

Had she said this during a fight, he would have definitely countered her... but because she was upset and worried, he let it go...

Thats what I felt.