Jill-e-lahi Nalla-ud-din- Waahiyad Raj ko andon se swagat kiya jayen🥚 - Page 12

Originally posted by: moksha89

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Aapne tag hi nahi kiya so I thought you were watching later 😅

my tags aren’t working so I feel like I’m dropping my yarn 🧶 connection being lost 😭😭

EDIT: so you tagged me but notification nahi aaya 😭😭

I only saw Sunny’s post bc I came into forum

I’m getting trolled by IF 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

i can never NOT tag you yaar Ridz!! till i write, i will

Originally posted by: QueeN456

Bapree i need time u reply uhh.. I will reply on ur both post by evening... Give me time I need to think before replying u.. N this is very tough task for me... Again question how u manage yr.. Kaha se lati ho itne thought mumma... Baki tariff reply me krungi...

aaram se yaar, no hurry!! aaj kaam kum hai na so am vella thoda and yahan dimaag laga diya!! LOL

Originally posted by: RainFire125

Hello to all lovely people!! Good Morning :)

Thanks sunny for opening the thread, aaj tere thread pe two posts likhungi. First is my rant and then episode analysis. And I promise this is my last long rant!! Iske baad I am not spending my energy and spirit on ranting - pinky promise!!!❤️

Alright, WRITERS - I have a couple of questions for you to set my context.

WHERE HAS THAT ESSENSE OF TIME VANISHED??? IS THAT DOWN THE DRAIN??

You all showed a brilliant point when Anuj's accident happened, even before i must say. he understood that life is unpredictable and then she understood that life is unpredictable. I loved those episodes bec TIME is actually a master stroke to make someone realize something. After that what happened?? TIME LOST ITS SIGNIFICANCE????

What stopped you guys from making ANu say - I am ready to take a steps towards you and with you!! Is that equivalent to ILU??? NOPE. This would have given you the chance to explore the emotional side of MaAn. This would have given you the chance to show so many emotions - hesitancy, exploring each other's strength and weakness and many more. Living together after this would have become much more beautiful. Bringing Mukku in again would have been seen as MaAn trying to solve her issues in a more beautiful way. As a dreamer, if i know that a man is ready to walk with me, I will want to know so much more about him and I will want to tell so much about myself to him!!! You are showing togetherness now too, but then that essence is going some where in thin air.

Other Questions --

1. Why are your plots becoming baseless since Anuj's accident?

2. Where is the Up-ing of Anuj? Is he just a lover now?

3. Where is the stepping up of Anu?

4. Are elders supposed to be on mute when it is most required for them to speak up? Even at an age of 40+ adult, when a father speaks up that 40+ adult listens - thats what sanskar is in India atleast

Now let me start with why i asked these ques. I know this is a long running drama, but that does not give an excuse to not set a base properly.

Baseless Plots -

You guys established Anuj as this perfect man with no flaws. This was etched in our mind. A man who is sharp, who observes many things together and who gives back to people when needed, at the time needed. Then suddenly you tell us that he has a sister, he is adopted, and he is drowned in guilt!! Chalo all accepted for the sake of long running story and for adding layers to a character. BUT, let me tell you, a man who is in this much guilt will vent or will recollect pieces of his past when he is alone or when he is with his most closed ones - such as GK. Did Anuj ever did this??? Apart from a couple nightmares that were about Anu or losing Anu or for hoping - he never showed any emotions. A human cannot hide his emotions always, practically he has to show it at some point and this emotional a guy - needs to vent when he is alone. YOU MISSED THIS!!

MUkky - This tho was a classic blunder you made and many have talked about this character, so i will not repeat!! I still sometimes cannot fig her arc!! Is this intentional? You want us to keep guessing whether Mukku is smart or dumb??? Chalo agreed here too - as a reader i know suspense is a good thing. However, I cannot trust you that you are indeed aiming to keep a suspense!! What if Mukku turns to be dumb??? Ofcourse an excuse is ever present that this is a long show and hence Mukku also will learn from her mistake and then she will blah blah blah...hence its a wait and watch.

Samar - This man has always been his mummy's son. He has never ever showed prominent traits of his father. And suddenly you start showing that he has Vanraj Shah's traits too??? Could you not show that ok this man also can be like his father at times? Anger, being irrational, not willing to listen, throwing things, shouting at a woman and so on?? So I have to assume suddenly that bec of xyz reason Samar is behaving like a V and pacify myself, is it?? I anyways assume a lot as you guys have given that scope/space and then observe the characters. But today my rational mind is asking or making these observations. When we are mainly writing a story for a LONG RUNNING SHOW, I have the scope to show the nuances more!! I can show that Samar also has V ka traits. Which Anu can see too and she can talk to show her son the mirror!! What made you ask him that ques when he personally has witnessed so many things? This is the same sane Samar who made her understand that ANuj's love is right and not wrong at all!! This is the same Samar who values love, who will never throw it away!!! As a human we know that one wrong move, one harsh word can crack a relation and then we have to move mountains to make that relation work!!

You aim to show Sanan's fight is just to get Anu and V in loggerheads!! Was there no other plot to come to this point? Such a simple matter ka pahad bana diya aap logon ne, kya drama hai bhai wah!! Kudos to your creativity. If the intent was to show that kids observe their parents, they come to some conclusions from the way the parents live their lives; i can tell you 1000 plots to show that; not this baseless fight!

Nandu - Kab se she is so in love with her massi man??? Kab se?? Have i missed seeing episodes where she is showing this much love??? She has been a practical girl and she too has witnessed what has happened with Anu. She has called a spade a spade when it came to Kavya. Infact, here I agree with her POV - only thing you forgot to establish is that she really loves her massi. Hence assumptions to be made and then her acts and episode to be understood, right??

Coming back to ANuj - I love him as a lover man, who will not; but is that the identity of a person?? Isnt a person more than a lover at any given point? You bought in layers in him and now all layers along with his sharpness, his observations are hiding??? Its good to step back and give space to a sister so that she gains confidence and gets that chance to make mistakes. But is it sane or advisable to not observe at all?? Why I am not seeing this skill in him? Why no scenes to show that yes he has stepped back but he is also observing whats happening around him? Why cant u give plots that also shows us this man's way of doing business. You did give us that Competition scene remember? So no ideas left to show his business side anymore??? Cant he talk to an equal tought nut and Anu observes so that she also learns??? Cant he and ANu have debate on ideas?? They can be shown coming to consensus right, in which way you can also show their individual thoughts merging, them working together by knowing each other more, their trust becoming stronger and so on. See I am giving you plots to run this show longer!!

I did brush aside him not understanding Anu;s feeling aside as stuck in no expectations mode as well. But a sharp man is a sharp man no matter what. He should have caught it way way sooner and that way you could have build up the romantic side with much more sweeter scenes. BUt na, you want the man to be dumb and thinking what ifs!!! No confidence in what he is seeing and even what he is hearing!! Is this the same confident man whom i saw walking into the cafe, sitting like he is going to own it one day and smiling at ANu??? Hesitency thode deer ki liye samajh aata hai, but not for like one month guys!!!!!!!

Anu stepping UP -- Has Anu not already stepped up since the time Anuj entered her life???? What was that after Bhumi puja - her stepping on a stool and talking with V??? What was that - her jumping the compound wall?? What was that - her talking gracefully and walking out of the house??? What was that - her looking for a house for herself?? ALL this was a step UP right??? So now her logging heads with V again is what - another attempt to step up??? Is this not a repeat??? And ofcourse in between you guys tried to bring in a unique friendship between them!! I mean how can i forget that. So, let me give you a small example of what would have inspired me - When she came in and caught Nandini - she did see the ring on the floor and she accessed the situation. How is Anu answerable to any god damn person that she has to stand there and give her lecture or get into a horn fight with V???? I would have preferred her to call Samar, take the ring, take his hand, walk out from that house, make him sit on a bench and talk to him bluntly that - dont repeat your parents mistake, instead learn from that and TRY NOT TO REPEAT!! You are my sensible son and I dont expect you to repeat the mistakes I DID. This would have also not bought Samar in the influence of Mr Shah even for a sec!!! This is Anu stepping yet again and defying the Shahs in her own way!!

Again, coming to MaAn as a whole and them showing haqq and stepping UP - let me give you two instances that you missed as per me. 1. When Anuj was helping her in the kitchen and talking about sanskar, i would have liked to see ANuj telling Anu - "lets do one thing ANu, lets talk to SaNan together. I am sure that if we bring them out of the Shah house, and talk to them in a park they will calm down and listen. You and I have the ability to solve any problem together!!" Environment matters!! And Anu accepting this!! THIS would have established two things - their trust on each other to solve anything under the moon; and them establishing rights on each other without even saying it out loud. Would this not have been better? They both would have stepped UP in their relation!!

If we ordinary people can think of such plots, why cant you seasoned great writers think of such plots I wonder!!!!

MaAn's cute scenes - I am forced to think at times ki Komal is right!! Many of these scenes are lollipops as MaAn is a trp catcher and if i show 1 cute scene fandom will dance all day, create vms etc etc. We fans are also fools at times....sorry people !!! What was so enthralling about that chair twirling yaar?? Forget being a couple; even at a best friends state if i see my bestie upset I will move mountains to make him talk or make him feel lighter. Why? - bec he is imp to me and i will be restless till he is OK!!! As simple as that. And when you go round round you will have head spin and you will catch the person who is close to you!! You want to tell me that she caught him bec she is now very comf with him?? That is one perception right? The other perception is he was close and she caught hold of him - big deal.... So see ultimately is this not a game of perceptions and assumptions??? If i perceive it as romantic and go al awwwwwwwwww then it is and if i see it practically then its no big deal. My point is these moments can capture us only for a specific time, not always!! A relation is a real way steps UP when you see them act with each other, for each other in simple and tough situations. I am super positive person, Many of you read what i write as my perceptions always tend to assume the nuances/cracks in people and explain from their view point. But i also have a threshold to continue doing this. If characters behave someway suddenly, if fights are meaningless (without proper base), if sense is not shown in the main characters, how long can i go on assuming and writing???

All in all - buckle up writers!! Dragging the confession is NOT a smart thing; Anu waiting to solve everything is NOT a smart thing - life in that way never gets sorted!!; ANuj not being sharp is NOT a smart thing;

Ok, am done!! If i have made no sense then sorry!! If i have made sense Thank you!! And always my respect and appreciation to you all for having that patience to read what i write!!!

I dont want to stop coming here and write/discuss/debate with you all lovely people!! But if the script does not improve then am afraid I will have no reason to write!! The only reason am still watching the show is to interact with you all!!❤️❤️

Will write another post with my observations on last two episode based on my assumptions!!! Maybe by afternoon!!! Have a great day all!!

Hey G 🤗

Thank you so much for putting this out, really.😳

Makers cannot serve everything senseless or just out of storyline by saying its a long running show. The way they put the character sketch they atleast stick to that ground. Though every character can have layers but grounds cannot be changed na.

For samar and nandini you said everything.I said this same yesterday, it is a lame attempt to put vanraj and anu on loggerheads. They can take it other way or the way they showed today in context of mukku, anything. For this they actually show samar and nandini opposite of their character. Samar can have his father's anger but he has his mother's sensibility to use in every situation. Anger and sensibility can be used together to make a mature person but you make him junior vanraj for the face off. Nandini is now being unreasonable, suddenly she has all the blames on Anu for not doing anything. And kavya comes with all the right acts for her. Total baseless.

Mukku is like you said can flip but if you really want to show her smary in future atleast give some hint to viewers to acknowledge. You guys are not creating mystery for interest, you are making her senseless like this total dumb. And a girls who faced this much cannot be dumb. At one place Anu is always right for her and on the other place vanraj is alone and emotional and she moved to it. Bad move.They will eventually breach her character to make her played by vanraj. Again it will be wrong move.

Anu and Anuj, the moments they are having now can have far more valued and significant if confession happened. I think this is not how mature people behave. This is not a mature love story look like. Suddenly you are showing their flirt, romance like clg goings. Boss other person has the right to know and other person also has to confirm his doubt about it first. Ye clg k flings ni h. You lost the time significance here. You are showing such understanding level between them so there is no point of hiding here. Dont know where you guys are heading. Anu does not need a blow now to say ILU out of rage.

Anuj is not a lover boy only please. This guy has wonderful sense of observation and quite vocal plus this guy has the ability to set things right. Business tycoon is not doing any business🤷‍♀️

They actually put him back seat, it is fine he helped Anu to upfront but that doesnt mean they cannot work together as team. You put Anu to do everything alone, to solve everything alone. They both as a team did wonders before too.

All in all makers please bind everything together even though its a long run show.

Originally posted by: RainFire125

This is my observations on last 2-3 episodes. If you have read my long essay that i posted in the morning, you will really feel ki G pagal hai kya???? LOL, dont worry even I feel at times that way ki how can I think in opposite directions!! This is bec we assume a lot and then we form our perceptions by observing the characters. This is not bec the writers have done a great job is portraying them in an xx manner, but bec we have assumed that they might have been that way. Will try and keep it to the point.

Relationships are like those garden where on all the flowers (dimensions in relation) you have to keep nurturing them, showering your attention/love on them. There is nothing called a perfect relationship; every relationship needs constant building and commitment.

On Samar's question to Anu (which completely surprised me) - Anu ended her relationship, but did he forget why Anu ended things? The divorce needed to happen because of a betrayal, of manipulation, and lies for nine years that can never be forgiven or forgotten. Rather should not be!!

I will really advocate Nandu to not marry into that house as one perception. She has seen firsthand again that no one stood for her in that house. The elders mainly stood silent as V belittled her as they did for 25 years with Anu. One fact that was brought up by Pakhi was that Nandini was not her bhabi yet and was still an “outsider” however, if Nandini was married she would have been treated as an outsider. So net net - without Anu, this house is a mere building where people are mute spectators!!! And no girl with a right mindset will want to be a part of this family! I am actually disappointed with Samar. Samar’s reaction to Nandini is a perfect example of his lack of maturity and how he’s not yet ready to commit. It’s as if when things aren’t perfect, you run away or get defensive just like you father. As much as I dislike Kavya, it’s true that someone needed to advocate for her and part of Kavya’s insecurity is the lack of acceptance from this family. No one is ever going to stand up to V's actions ever is it??? We know that Pakhi will forever stand by her father regardless so why is Nandini being put on the spot for advocating for Kavya? As Vanraj openly insulted Nandini, not a single Shah advocated for Nandini but instead Baa tried to pacify her instead of saying anything to Vanraj. This is like everyone practicing see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil when Anu isn’t present in the Shah house. I wonder this - Anu spoke up only after the betrayal surfaced. If the betrayal never happened would Anu be a silent Shah as well? Would she have supported Nandini in any given situation?? Nandu is fortunate to have this changed Anu in her life because many mothers never see their son’s wrong doing but Anu looks at facts and not just blood.

I am going to let Mukku be bec i want to still assume that here there is more than we are seeing. We may see her becoming a putty but I want to hope that its her BIG PLAN. She adores her bro and now she also adores Anu. As someone had said she cannot adore MaAn as well as V. So one side is definitely a pretend. Hence let me assume that she is pretending towards V and he will be her checkmate eventually!!

Coming to ANu and Vanraaj Shah -

It’s evident now that V is using the same manipulation tactics on Mukku that he had once used on Kavya. That sympathy of not being understood by loved ones, rejection, and lonliness etc. We know that Mukku forever seeks the good in everyone and sympathizes for them. She understand lonliness very well. Her character arc accepts people’s faults and weak points so far. Anuj is Anu’s inner strength and Anu is fortunate that he forever tries to raise her and never pushes her back. This inner strength is needed for Anu to fight again the evilness that is V. Anu hopefully is starting to understand the true layers of Vanraj. Maybe she will have a full window now to see how he had started things with Kavya. As Kavya warned her, there is a side of Vanraj that Anu cannot even fathom. Even though Anuj forever has Anu’s back; in this situation Anu needs to handle the situation tactfully as i see that she is going to handle the situation alone for some time (which i have my reservations about). Anu understands Anuj’s temperament when it comes to his sister and she also understands how defensive Mukku can be. Instead as Vanraj gains Mukku’s trust, Anu needs to keep developing that bond with Mukku so she’ll be receptive to Anu protecting her against Vanraj. Anu was once his victim. She thought for a while that he might have changed because she truly wished that deep down there was an ounce of goodness in the man that she laid with; Perhaps Vanraj isn’t a womanizer by nature but the truth is he will use a woman’s weakness, compassion, or passion to his advantage to succeed and this is the reality that Anu has to accept fully!!!

I am glad that Anuj is starting to put pieces together and understand Anu is falling in love with him while giving Anu her space.

I dont want to even think that writers will take the route to making Mukku cause such situations that Anu might be forced to leave the Kapadia house. If that happens then i will say - good riddance to a rubbish script!!!

You are absolutely right G, nobody utters a word in that house if Anupama is not there...Rakhi Dave was also right in asking Kinjal to move out from that house...but she wanted to be with mummy. I dont get what's stopping her now...mummy is no more in that house. Also Kinjal gets a little consession since she is Toshu's wife, who is V ka ladla and also that her problems wala track was over when Anu was there so she handled it, no one might say much to her because she is Rakhi Dave ki beti. Nandini here has no such backgrounds nor is Samar V ka ladla.. so its evident she ll have to face problems added to it Anu is not there.

Thankoo behen🤗🤗🤗

V girte girte jahanum tak pahoonch gaya😂😂😂

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Originally posted by: ayushijindal

Hey G 🤗

Thank you so much for putting this out, really.😳

Makers cannot serve everything senseless or just out of storyline by saying its a long running show. The way they put the character sketch they atleast stick to that ground. Though every character can have layers but grounds cannot be changed na.

For samar and nandini you said everything.I said this same yesterday, it is a lame attempt to put vanraj and anu on loggerheads. They can take it other way or the way they showed today in context of mukku, anything. For this they actually show samar and nandini opposite of their character. Samar can have his father's anger but he has his mother's sensibility to use in every situation. Anger and sensibility can be used together to make a mature person but you make him junior vanraj for the face off. Nandini is now being unreasonable, suddenly she has all the blames on Anu for not doing anything. And kavya comes with all the right acts for her. Total baseless.

Mukku is like you said can flip but if you really want to show her smary in future atleast give some hint to viewers to acknowledge. You guys are not creating mystery for interest, you are making her senseless like this total dumb. And a girls who faced this much cannot be dumb. At one place Anu is always right for her and on the other place vanraj is alone and emotional and she moved to it. Bad move.They will eventually breach her character to make her played by vanraj. Again it will be wrong move.

Anu and Anuj, the moments they are having now can have far more valued and significant if confession happened. I think this is not how mature people behave. This is not a mature love story look like. Suddenly you are showing their flirt, romance like clg goings. Boss other person has the right to know and other person also has to confirm his doubt about it first. Ye clg k flings ni h. You lost the time significance here. You are showing such understanding level between them so there is no point of hiding here. Dont know where you guys are heading. Anu does not need a blow now to say ILU out of rage.

Anuj is not a lover boy only please. This guy has wonderful sense of observation and quite vocal plus this guy has the ability to set things right. Business tycoon is not doing any business🤷‍♀️

They actually put him back seat, it is fine he helped Anu to upfront but that doesnt mean they cannot work together as team. You put Anu to do everything alone, to solve everything alone. They both as a team did wonders before too.

All in all makers please bind everything together even though its a long run show.

Bravo girl!!! loved the articulation - 👏👏 see we can think and writers cant??? or wont??

Thank you ponnu🤗🤗 i am sure you know the trps by now and I must say we arent surprised at all. Kab tak chalega yaar...this jerk keeps manipulating women and women are also shown naive..and why is Anu not telling Anuj about V? Is she waiting for things to get worse?? No logic+ no confession= no interest😑😑

Originally posted by: Meghuzz

You are absolutely right G, nobody utters a word in that house if Anupama is not there...Rakhi Dave was also right in asking Kinjal to move out from that house...but she wanted to be with mummy. I dont get what's stopping her now...mummy is no more in that house. Also Kinjal gets a little consession since she is Toshu's wife, who is V ka ladla and also that her problems wala track was over when Anu was there so she handled it, no one might say much to her because she is Rakhi Dave ki beti. Nandini here has no such backgrounds nor is Samar V ka ladla.. so its evident she ll have to face problems added to it Anu is not there.

Looks like Anu is answerable to all and has to solve all the universe's problems!! baki sab problem solvers maar gaye hai naaa, only Anu is left!!! bakwaas..she is not going to say anything to ANuj, tum dekhlo and Anuj ka dhyan tho sirf Anu pe hai abhi ,,,, raam jane how the hell is this business running and most imp Mukku ne sab raj pe chod diyaa??/ WAH, so she comes to office just to show her swag????

I am super duper pissed man...

Originally posted by: docritu99

I can understand your reactions, Sunny! But honestly, we have asked for this, remember? Not exactly this cheap but we knew all along there's no bottom line for V.

This ghatiya V is multiple times better than his 'accha insaan' fake twin we were forced to bear for last few weeks. We fought with the makers for this only! Atleast his manipulative intentions are clear and we can bash him openly, right!

A few weeks ago, people were like, yeh ho Kya raha hai? Iss V se sympathy rakhe ya kamine ko gaali de? Although we all knew at the end he's the girgit still..

And I feel this is going to be the last straw for him that would snatch even a chance to feel pity on him for his closed ones like Baa and Toshu, I would include Anu in this list as well for not someone close to him but someone who had always searched for even a drop of goodness amongst the vast spread of blackness in him and trying to cling to it. All those childhood buddies tamasha that she went along for this GhatiyaRaaj.

Bold - I too agree on this

Originally posted by: RainFire125

Bravo girl!!! loved the articulation - 👏👏 see we can think and writers cant??? or wont??

I think they dont want to. They are putting anything to fullfill the purpose but not reasonable they are. See they again took wrong route today, at one place they show mukki want to mend kavya and vanraj relation and on the hand you make her fly kites with him. Seriously. Koi sense hi ni aa rha inka.

About Anu's sarees, not suit toh atleast give her some professional sarees yaar, she is now a business woman