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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

I see only one way now for the makers to fix this is by making Anu tell Vanraj in the precap scene to start with yourself first by sorting it out with Kavya and then to preach others.

which I'm sure wont happen

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

i never knew this

so now i m 100% sure ki actually suddenly vanraj sant kaise ho gaya🤡


https://twitter.com/parvathinandyal/status/1480425719532380161?s=20

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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Sunshine and all others - THANKS for the strongly worded condemnation of the mockery of IPV we have been witnessing in our beloved show.


If the makers have an iota of respect for their viewers, their own show, actors and characters' arcs this is what they need to do:


1) READ ALL the comments online ( forums like this, SM, blogs, general interest mags even etc. etc) - FEEL the grief, outrage and disappointment for:

(a) mishandling a super sensitive issue that really matters to a majority of the audience of this show, i.e. females who have witnessed, lived through psychological/physical IPV or at the very least resonate with the issue.


(b) Inconsistent portrayal of their own works of art i.e. Anupama and Anuj. One minute they are sensitive, informed, empowered feminists, the next naive, idiotic, traditionalists letting in Vanraj into their most gut wrenching grief, exposing an abuse victim (Mukku) still in the throes of PTSD to a known abuser, who has repeatedly subjected THEM to unimaginable torture?


(c) Destroying Anuj's arc. He brought in viewers who had sworn off ITV. GK's innate charm of course added to the sheen of Anuj, but the makers and writers conceptualized and wrote a beautiful ML and they r now tearing him down. Show him as a vulnerable human being but DON'T insult his and OUR intelligence. Suddenly all he wants to do is die??? C'mon.


2) What's this I m reading about the friendship of makers w Vanraj actor and hence his crazy arc - nice father, brother, son? My foot! Samar hates him, Toshu is a sad, pathetic replica of him who doesn't know whether he is coming or going and Pakhi (what the hell girl - u r 18 or whatever, cant you see what an "*$#@&!@ your dad is). And u r putting idiotic dialogues in Anu's mouth where she is defending, valorisng her monstrous abuser? Yeah Anu may need to make sense of her 26 years w this guy and as the father of her children. But she has herself called him out on numerous occassions for torture, so pls don't show Anu as an idiot who has no recognition of IPV beyond physical violence.


3) Someone said TV shows don't matter - can't change attitudes, beliefs etc. My dear I beg to differ very very strongly. They are an important tool of socializing us into cultural norms and teaching/reinforcing values and belief systems- what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. But that's a lecture (no a semester long course at the very least which I currently teach)


4) Makers, writers, producers, whoever is in the driving seat - you have created a powerful show with wonderful characters. Even Vanraj was a well written character and is portrayed really well by the chosen actor. Let him play his role to the hilt in the service of the overall story. His character serves a purpose. A strong antagonist is important in any drama and let him write ITV history as being one of the most well written, realistic and well-enacted antagonists just as Anu and Anuj are well written and enacted (though aspirational not really realistic) protagonists. Show Vanraj's reformation also if u like but put an arc there - awareness of his misogyny, true remorse, seeking forgiveness and maybe maybe being given a measure of forgiveness. But pls don't make a misogynist a champion in a minute w/o any internal soul searching, demonstrated shame and "pashchataap"


5) For heaven's sake - DON'T DESTROY THIS SHOW! You guys clearly understand cognitive and social psychology AND how to weave a magical story. Don't go the sloppy ITV way for any reason.

AND if nothing else, THINK OF THE BOTTOMLINE!!!


The collective outrage on this forum alone should tell you that the bottomline will suffer if you don't get back in the saddle and put your demonstrated writing chops to use.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#76

seems like is show se move on karne ka time aa gaya h😵


i just can't see this torture


https://twitter.com/MaAn_Anupamaa/status/1480452866649182208?s=20

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Posted: 4 years ago
#77

mujhe ab samajh aa raha ki pichle kuch dino se kyu set se koi bhi pic koi bhi video ya segment release kyu nahi ho raha

because agar ye pehle hi release ho jata to twitter par pehle hi hungama mach jata but ab makers ke paas bahana h ki ye sab to pehle hi shoot ho chuka h so we can't undo it


then go to hell anupama makers now i really don't care

you are just pathetic bunch of loosers


i m sorry hina but now i m really very frustrated

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Posted: 4 years ago
#78

(My take Copy from another thread)

Me and my mom was just discussing this. I was so angry but she made me see through the reality. This actually calm me down. She said there is no doubt that Vanraj is evil, he was, is and will. But like him in real life also these kind of people wont regret, they dont have any ounce of guilt even. They are the so called good people in front. They got affected only for their daughters sisters but not their wives till. These are those people who did and doing the same but rebuke the others for the same. They lend help but wont learn lesson for themselves. That is why violence happens and women face lots of difficulties to prove. These kind of people never leave a chance to interfere but dont want any for themselves. Sad but true. My mom said makers trying to show the reality. She said tell me the one person who accepted and guilty of doing violence, not any. It is just that it is a show and we as viewers want to see what is right but reality is not that. Agar aisa hota na k aise log guilty hote to violence hota hi ni

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kras1

seems like is show se move on karne ka time aa gaya h😵


i just can't see this torture


https://twitter.com/MaAn_Anupamaa/status/1480452866649182208?s=20



Perfect Vanraj helping Mukku heal...


hahahahahaha.....


tu heal ho pehle taki main phir tujhe next abuse karu.


Pehle Anupama phir Kavya and next is your turn Mukku.


This time your brother Anuj has given me free entertainment permit, he let me see you in pain.. he is Anupama 2.0.


both Anupama and Anupama 2.0 are same , I will abuse them and in return they praise me...


they are in my control, everytime they portray so strong emotions, fool the viewer...


and phew next day we are back in business as if nothing ever happened.


Stupid viewer's who believe Anu-Anuj were hurt, they were acting to get TRP.


See bhumi pujan, character assassination, diwali kaand..they forget the very next morning...dance to my tunes, call me achcha insaan..


See na how friendly both are with me now, having friendly talks and taking my help to heal Muku..these two are idiot useless people, I tell you...


Makers fooled the viewers by smart suave Anuj and thought he will teach vanraj the lesson..


Come on all characters be it Anu, Anuj or Mukku are added in show for me to use and rule them.


To all. I am the HERO and this show is for me only..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#80

You have summed it up so beautifully and accurately!! Wish your voice reaches the makers ... I was one of those who had given up on ITV but started watching sometime back due to the Maan hype , but so disappointed now ! Even the description of the episode is Sooo CRINGE !!

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