Actors leaving jobs over Vaccine Mandate - Page 8

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Last I checked Flu vaccines weren't mandated but recommended. Those weren't taking flu shots weren't segregated from society.

In California, kids aren't allowed in school unless they have a set of vaccines including polio, Dtap, Hep A, MMRV. . If you don't oblige, you home school your kid, this has been the rule for years.

In healthcare you can't participate unless you have MMR, TDAP, up to date ppd screenings, Hep B, and flu vaccine was mandated or you wore masks before masks were a thing.

Originally posted by: v_nakshara

ICovid is a treatable respiratory disease whereas several of those side effects are not.

I also have several friends and relatives who had covid and recovered without any issues prior to the vaccine being available.

Please walk through any ICU in the states. Thank you.

Originally posted by: desigal90

They have listed all the adverse effects in the study. There are 3 paragraphs dedicated to adverse effects, types of effects, percentage with effects both in vaccine group and placebo. Again, read the study.

They mentioned adverse effects. It's not enough. For vaccines to become a manadate. What needs to be identified are the set of people who are likely to get those adverse effects and kept out of mandates.

If my wordings aren't clear by now my issue isn't the vaccine but the mandates and division being made in society out of those mandates.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

They mentioned adverse effects. It's not enough. For vaccines to become a manadate. What needs to be identified are the set of people who are likely to get those adverse effects and kept out of mandates.

If my wordings aren't clear by now my issue isn't the vaccine but the mandates and division being made in society out of those mandates.

I get your points. My issue is with spotlight on vaccine side effects while downplaying the Covid 19 infection morbidity and mortality; which frankly, we physicians have been dealing with for over a year. Anytime there's a surge it impacts my life. My husband is the one that gets called in for backup, or calls because the hospital and medical staff is overwhelmed and understaffed. I'm lucky I work outpatient so when they get seriously ill, I just send them to ER and they get hospitalized.

Originally posted by: desigal90

In California, kids aren't allowed in school unless they have a set of vaccines including polio, Dtap, Hep A, MMRV. . If you don't oblige, you home school your kid, this has been the rule for years.

In healthcare you can't participate unless you have MMR, TDAP, up to date ppd screenings, Hep B, and flu vaccine was mandated or you wore masks before masks were a thing.

Don't just stop at naming those vaccines.. but also elaborate on timelines for approval of those vaccines.

And tell me how many of those vaccines have equivalent mandates with the way covid vaccine is being mandated.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Don't just stop at naming those vaccines.. but also elaborate on timelines for approval of those vaccines.

And tell me how many of those vaccines have equivalent mandates with the way covid vaccine is being mandated.

I just told you, in California, all of them. How much more of a mandate do you need when I tell you if you don't have it, your kid can't go to school. MMRV, DTAP, Hep A. These are some regular ones. 😂

and again we're hung up on time period of approval. You do realize medicine is constantly evolving right? Just coz it took us a decade to create something in the 80s or

90s, doesn't mean we're always going to take that long. I mean look at the advancement in molecular biology and biomed.

And again, just for anyone interested; here's the original Pfizer study in NEJM.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

Originally posted by: desigal90

so you're implying that the thousands of people that died all over the word didn't have a good diet and exercise? Indians are generally healthier in terms of weight than Americans. But India got ravaged by the virus. This virus doesn't care about your age. And the only reason MORE haven't died is because of medicine and science; and our ability to artificially supply enhance levels of oxygen, or intubate while in a medical induced coma. Left you to exercise and diet without medical intervention, I can't even begin to describe the impact of mortality.

Girl I got my first 2 shots and I say no more. To each it's own. I will work on my diet and I will exercice more. It's also important to sleep properly.

As for India, it might be interesting to see what the government did in term of dealing with the crisis. Theyr were more busy arguing about SSR death that actually doing anything.

So it's not on me.

I'm not American too but from my understanding they also enormously suffered from COVID so it's not a competition.

Originally posted by: desigal90

I get your points. My issue is with spotlight on vaccine side effects while downplaying the Covid 19 infection morbidity and mortality; which frankly, we physicians have been dealing with for over a year. Anytime there's a surge it impacts my life. My husband is the one that gets called in for backup, or calls because the hospital and medical staff is overwhelmed and understaffed.

The way covid is being downplayed in a similar manner these abruptly appoved vaccines side effects are also being downplayed. Both sides are to be blamed. Public need to take covid precautions seriously to not overwhelm understaffed medical staff.

Vaccines are far from the real problem, mandates is the real issue.

Fyi, I took the vaccine first shot within 2 weeks of becoming eligible by going to a different city because it wasn't available in my city then.

But I still have issue with the way these vaccines are being mandated.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

The way covid is being downplayed in a similar manner these abruptly appoved vaccines side effects are also being downplayed. Both sides are to be blamed. Public need to take covid precautions seriously to not overwhelm understaffed medical staff.

Vaccines are far from the real problem, mandates is the real issue.

Fyi, I took the vaccine first shot within 2 weeks of becoming eligible by going to a different city because it wasn't available in my city then.

But I still have issue with the way these vaccines are being mandated.

my entire family, extended family and all our family friends are vaccinated. We're socializing and back to our normal life now. We don't have to be stuck at home because of these interventions. So far a few of us have booster; hasnt been 6 months since last dose for some family members so they can't get their boosters.