*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 17*~* Meri Duniyaa - Page 84

Originally posted by: rubys07

Fria, I'm partly blaming the writing for this. I think we wouldn't see a compartmentalizing Raghav today if they were not fast forwarding through this track. The shift was very abrupt (due to fans' reaction + even lower TRPs +off air news or whatever) so it feels weird to us as viewers. I'm not okay with him being so nonchalant about this either but at this point, I don't expect Raghav to suddenly start making sense. My focus is solely on Pallavi. During the Mandar track, once I realized the writers were not going to do justice to Pallavi's character, I lowered my expectations from her character and that's how I was able to survive it. Similarly, Esha's track used to make me want to break my screen in the initial days because Raghav was behaving like an idiot but I no longer feel that way because I know the writers aren't going to give him smart dialogues at this point. They just won't. It won't happen until the truth is out.

Yup agree with you - Just like the creatives dumbed down Pallavi during Mandar track, they are dumbing down Raghav here in Esha's track. The reason they got the ONS is that with a sob story there is only so much that Esha can manipulate Raghav, with ONS they have Esha playing on the guilt of Raghav two fold - One that her life is mess because of her decision to save Raghav's life and second that Raghav cheated on Pallavi.

The creatives have zero creativity with respect to ex track. I don't know why Sickand so wanted this track when his team is so unable to create good plot points - It is just that ex are cringe and they are delusional. Why can't they have the ex to be a good person and you show the conflict of all 3 involved on how they can make sure the relationships are secured.

I would say we will get the challenges this week and next week is Pallavi walking out and Raghav repenting. Last 2 weeks is tying up and giving Sunny a Nirma white wash. Bas ho gaya - itna paise main itna hich milega.

Originally posted by: PSharada

That is the whole issue na Fria - Raghav has compartmentalized that night. For him it was a big mistake, he knows that he will carry the guilt of it for till he lives or till the truth is out in some way or other. He is not understanding that hiding that thing will look as if he was willing partner in the ONS. He is going to learn that when Pallavi breaks down and walks away from RR Mansion.

Regarding his dialogue of - I asked her to stay, I think he is saying that w.r.t Esha being unsafe outside due to Sumit and his constant harassments including the kidnapping. I would say Pallavi should have called up Raghav before Esha did and should have told Raghav everything that happened till now. During Mandar track also, miscommunication between Raghav and Pallavi caused Mandar to take advantage and here too Esha is doing the same thing. She called up before Pallavi could broach this topic with Raghav and played her victim drama.

It is, but just because he compartmentalized it doesn't mean he should be this free with Esha. His interactions with her are as if nothing had happened and that will always be my biggest issue with how they're portraying him at the moment. He carries that guilt, but even when he's alone with Esha, that guilt is barely shown. IMO it is not normal for people who made a mistake with their ex, & regretting it, to be this casual with their ex. I don't expect him to catch E's manipulations, but I expect him to be wary of even talking to E.

But yes, the whole purpose of this plot is to keep him blind until the last moment when P reveals that she knows, etc. So I know this is supposed to happen.

During M track, P never had anything she was hiding from R so even with the miscommunications, it was more tolerable to watch (and I criticized her often at the time). That's not the case here so everytime I see R interact with E this way I'm just like :

*

* I still love him tho.

Originally posted by: rubys07

Fria, I'm partly blaming the writing for this. I think we wouldn't see a compartmentalizing Raghav today if they were not fast forwarding through this track. The shift was very abrupt (due to fans' reaction + even lower TRPs +off air news or whatever) so it feels weird to us as viewers. I'm not okay with him being so nonchalant about this either but at this point, I don't expect Raghav to suddenly start making sense. My focus is solely on Pallavi. During the Mandar track, once I realized the writers were not going to do justice to Pallavi's character, I lowered my expectations from her character and that's how I was able to survive it. Similarly, Esha's track used to make me want to break my screen in the initial days because Raghav was behaving like an idiot but I no longer feel that way because I know the writers aren't going to give him smart dialogues at this point. They just won't. It won't happen until the truth is out.

I agree with you both Fria Ru. I hated both scenes of Raghav shown today - him telling it's not like Pallavi to make promises and break them (he can do so but she can't?) and asking Esha to stay back because she's safe here.

He's just being an ostrich with his head in the sand at this point in time because he doesn't realise that when P gets to know the truth, it's going to make her feel R is actively cheating on her with Esha but that is not the case. Till the whole truth of the night is out, she's going to be too shattered.

See the elaborate set up for the downfall. She so proudly claims that she's is his wife and owns the house. Mera pati mera ghar meri saas mera parivar. They are literally dumbing down Raghav in an effort to make it into a P vs E. Itne saare coincidences the that R couldn't put it together.

I'm not surprised Pallavi did coz she's the real smart and perceptive one but Raghav not even doubting and behaving so stupid doesn't make any sense. But like Sharada and you pointed out it's a Mandar 2.0 isliye I'm ignoring a lot of things R is doing like I did for P in the erstwhile track.

I really enjoyed Teekhi mirchi P trashing sunny Esha and it gave mere dil ko thandak. It's no longer one sided coz the queen has come to the battlefield.

Originally posted by: PSharada

Yes exactly Raghav has clearly mentioned time and again that he wants only Pallavi in his life. He even clarified to Esha that the ONS happened because he was hallucinating about Pallavi. I don't think he is even thinking that he might have been taken advantage of by Esha. He accepts that he has done a mistake and is willing to pay for it but he doesn't have guts to tell Pallavi the truth. Yes he is going to reap the results of his decisions.

And Esha totally played Raghav by calling him up and playing a sob story as to how she wants to leave the house because she doesn't want Pallavi to misunderstand her and what not - Just like Mandar during the tracker drama came to RR house and played the victim card saying Pallavi I don't know why Raghav is tracking you but believe me I never wanted to come in between you two. Same to same dialogues so here Raghav got played just like Pallavi got played at that time.

I really hope Pallavi doesn't hide Esha's challenge and tells Raghav the truth because Raghav did a mistake of not telling Pallavi that Mandar had challenged him. I am hoping Pallavi tells Raghav the truth of what Esha has said. Let's see.

Agree Sharada. If this is a rehash of the Mandar track though, I doubt if P will tell R about the challenge. In the precap, she comes up with her own plan to get Esha out of RR mansion so I assume she doesn't tell R about Esha either.

Uff why do these people never text or send voice notes when it's actually important? Pallavi could've just left R a message or something that said "Yo your ex is a psycho, she is sabotaging our relationship, I need her OUT ASAP" 😆

Originally posted by: Trina2021

x factor is right but Pals didn’t have that drugged kheer knowingly while RR got into that drinking game knowing he might get intoxicated and also about the Person having feelings for him . Pals didn’t know Mandars obsession about her RR knew Easha still harbors feelings for him still he chose to hide that from his wife and ignored that fact while getting engaged into a drinking game with his ex . That’s wrong . Worst than that accidental ONs which he didn’t do consensually for sure . Pals spend the night with her Aai while RR had no one with him and he himself admitted of having slept with his ex so yeah it’s not like he’s being blamed or anything

Pals didn’t hide anything from RR ever but RR did many times and she Almost lost her life due to this nature of his . This time also he’s cheating her emotionally by hiding facts from her which is not right .

I would say it is Sickand's way of taking tadka to extreme level. Somehow the ONS was sickand's way to trolling the fandom for rejecting his precious Mandar track. In the end they will show that nothing happened and Esha took advantage of Raghav.

Regarding Raghav emotionally cheating on Pallavi, yes he is hiding the facts from Pallavi I agree. The problem is he doesn't know how to tell the truth without losing his everything. He will realize that he will lose Pallavi either way and him hiding the facts made his case more weaker. That is why he is going to go behind her to D house, sleeping in front of D house and doing all sorts of things. Pallavi did not hide anything from Raghav because that is her nature. I really hope that Pallavi lets Raghav know of the challenge that Esha gave her because Raghav did the mistake of hiding the challenge that Mandar gave him and that caused problems between them. Let's see what happens next.

Originally posted by: rubys07

Agree Sharada. If this is a rehash of the Mandar track though, I doubt if P will tell R about the challenge. In the precap, she comes up with her own plan to get Esha out of RR mansion so I assume she doesn't tell R about Esha either.

Uff why do these people never text or send voice notes when it's actually important? Pallavi could've just left R a message or something that said "Yo your ex is a psycho, she is sabotaging our relationship, I need her OUT ASAP" 😆

@bold:

Bc if the leads actually talked to each other about important things or used modern technology, then the show would end tomorrow

🤣

Remember, SS is anti happiness and consummation. That's all they could so in the remaining 20+ episodes.

You know, the whole time I was watching the P+E scene I was like, "P, WHERES YOUR PEN RECORDER NOW??" These people really need to learn how to use the voice recorder on their phones.

Originally posted by: rubys07

Agree Sharada. If this is a rehash of the Mandar track though, I doubt if P will tell R about the challenge. In the precap, she comes up with her own plan to get Esha out of RR mansion so I assume she doesn't tell R about Esha either.

Uff why do these people never text or send voice notes when it's actually important? Pallavi could've just left R a message or something that said "Yo your ex is a psycho, she is sabotaging our relationship, I need her OUT ASAP" 😆

@bold:- Yup totally agree. Sane people in real relationships tell this outright. Kya kare in Sickand's La La land ex will easily play the person and they will remain dumb until a TNT dynamite goes off. Then they will run behind to manao and groveling to get the love back.

Chalo iss bahane we will see some angst scenes of Raghav and Pallavi and me is totally ready with popcorn to watch these two fight it out. I want Pallavi to totally give it back to Raghav saying how he broke her trust, her guroor her love and give the mangalsutra back to him and go to D house. Phir bhagega behind his Saree ka Dukaan. No wonder he is going to do that walking on coal stunt.

Bechara Raghav - he is just a force of nature. He never does anything small size does he - His blunders have to big king size only. After all he is THE RAGHAV RAO.

Originally posted by: PSharada

@bold:- Yup totally agree. Sane people in real relationships tell this outright. Kya kare in Sickand's La La land ex will easily play the person and they will remain dumb until a TNT dynamite goes off. Then they will run behind to manao and groveling to get the love back.

Chalo iss bahane we will see some angst scenes of Raghav and Pallavi and me is totally ready with popcorn to watch these two fight it out. I want Pallavi to totally give it back to Raghav saying how he broke her trust, her guroor her love and give the mangalsutra back to him and go to D house. Phir bhagega behind his Saree ka Dukaan. No wonder he is going to do that walking on coal stunt.

Bechara Raghav - he is just a force of nature. He never does anything small size does he - His blunders have to big king size only. After all he is THE RAGHAV RAO.

R trying to fix his problems:

him ignoring every potential consequence of what he's doing right now:

Originally posted by: fria319

@bold:

Bc if the leads actually talked to each other about important things or used modern technology, then the show would end tomorrow

🤣

Remember, SS is anti happiness and consummation. That's all they could so in the remaining 20+ episodes.

You know, the whole time I was watching the P+E scene I was like, "P, WHERES YOUR PEN RECORDER NOW??" These people really need to learn how to use the voice recorder on their phones.

Yeah I was half assuming Pallavi to be recording the conversation of Esha but nope she was not. I think Pallavi did not think Esha would be that obsessive about Raghav - she thought they have moved on but now Esha showed that she wants Raghav back in her life. I really hope Pallavi gives back to Esha good but looks like that is not happening. Even if Esha goes to Safe house, she will get Sumit to again play a trick so that Raghav gets her back to RR Mansion.

I think that is why today's dialogue of - I will go when I want to is of significance. I think once Raghav does his coal stunt Esha will realize that there is nothing there for her and Raghav loves only Pallavi and that is when she will move away. Maybe that is the reason why Esha was there in the BTS of the coal stunt.

Originally posted by: Trina2021

x factor is right but Pals didn’t have that drugged kheer knowingly while RR got into that drinking game knowing he might get intoxicated and also about the Person having feelings for him . Pals didn’t know Mandars obsession about her RR knew Easha still harbors feelings for him still he chose to hide that from his wife and ignored that fact while getting engaged into a drinking game with his ex . That’s wrong . Worst than that accidental ONs which he didn’t do consensually for sure . Pals spend the night with her Aai while RR had no one with him and he himself admitted of having slept with his ex so yeah it’s not like he’s being blamed or anything

Pals didn’t hide anything from RR ever but RR did many times and she Almost lost her life due to this nature of his . This time also he’s cheating her emotionally by hiding facts from her which is not right .

Let me try and put across my perspective. You may not like it but feel free to ignore.

Yes, Pallavi didn't have the drugged kheer that night but she willingly chose to stay back in D house. How much ever she was upset with Raghav, he is her husband at the end of the day. She should have not promised VD to stay back to treat Mandar indefinitely without consulting Raghav. There she was at fault despite her noble intentions and complete honesty.

Raghav willingly got into a drinking session with his ex who harboured feelings for him. But tell me one thing can you blame him for drinking with the ex, did he know she would take advantage of his drunken state? She was his friend who literally destroyed her life for saving his. He held a grudge against her for such a long time and he felt relieved that was not the case. Hence he indulged in a stupid drinking game till he was sloshed. If there was an ex who was positive most of us would not have found his actions questionable. There are so many people who are friends with people who like them, it's not like everyone literally stays away from friends because they have one sided feelings right.

While it was utterly stupid of him and a huge huge mistake, I don't see him as doing this intentionally to hurt Pallavi. Here he was a victim because Esha closed in on him. Right now he's hiding because he thinks he slept with Esha, if that were not the case, he would have come as clean as P did.

Also, I don't know how many people observed in the Mandar drugged kand. After Amma and R left and Aayi promised to be near Pallavi, she literally left the next second and a drugged Pallavi was with Mandar alone in the room. You can go back and check, I know coz I was literally screaming into the TV at aayi for being so careless about it. I'm not blaming Pallavi here but the circumstances are literally the same. If Mandar did cross the line and Pallavi didn't remember, she would literally be in the same state as R or lost as to what happened.

I agree totally when you say that R is at fault for hiding this from P because it takes away her agency to decide. While I understand his actions, I don't condone them. That is precisely the reason why he will give an agnipariksha and lots more and P was back in his life without as much as a sorry (because she wasn't at fault).

As far as emotional cheating goes, Esha is emotionally manipulating Raghav and the idiot is falling for it. But he's not emotionally cheating on Pallavi. According to me what qualifies as emotional cheating is when you have feelings for the other person, Raghav here only feels for Pallavi and not Esha.