Sleet of Emotional Quivers on RadhaKrishn Love CC#11 - Page 60

Good morning everyone!! Happy diwali wishes in advance!! May the lights always show us the path in our lives.

The visuals for hathi ghoda palki show is bad man. The birth of kanha and his move to gokul was so well done in RK and hence so many things looked unreal. What's the matter with swastik??? The kiddo also is not a baby.

Originally posted by: vyapti

Was Jarasandha aiming to be an emperor?

Jarasandha was a Samrat, most of the kingdoms in India were under him, but he was aiming to become a Chakravarti Samrat(ruling all India) this doesn't have any English equivalence

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Jarasandha was a Samrat, most of the kingdoms in India were under him, but he was aiming to become a Chakravarti Samrat(ruling all India) this doesn't have any English equivalence

I thought Yudhisthir was Samrat because he did Rajasuya.

Originally posted by: vyapti

I thought Yudhisthir was Samrat because he did Rajasuya.

No before Rajasuya he was kind of supportive state of Hastinapur kind of extension you might say, Rajasuya can be done by any king (Raja/Maharaja), he became Samrat only after the war when he did the Ashwamedh Yagya

Had he been the Emperor, he wouldn't have so less support

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Just came across this precap. When they run out of ideas they make Sumedh play another character 😆but this time they're repeating his Paundrak type character. 😆

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

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Just came across this precap. When they run out of ideas they make Sumedh play another character 😆but this time they're repeating his Paundrak type character. 😆

So who is he?

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

No before Rajasuya he was kind of supportive state of Hastinapur kind of extension you might say, Rajasuya can be done by any king (Raja/Maharaja), he became Samrat only after the war when he did the Ashwamedh Yagya

Had he been the Emperor, he wouldn't have so less support

MBH text calls him samrat whether or not rajasuya was meant to make him one.

Yudhishtira didn't have support because most believed he lost fair and square and most believed Kaurava behavior was quite all right (on par with behavior of kings of the day).

This part is actually stated by Balram.

With re: Panchali.

She was called into the dice hall because she was an integral part of the empire. Not because Kauravas wanted to assault her though they might have well wanted to.

Suyodhana actually only says she needs to go sweep and mop with serving girls. It was when Panchali refused to obey orders that things escalated.

They made it amply clear that they wanted her out also when they made her part of the exile contract. Suyodhana plainly stated the 5 Pandavas and Krishna Panchali had to go on exile for 12 years + 1 year incognito stay.

I'll retract my one reason that they thought Krishna Govinda would attack with Panchali as his symbolic reason and Abhimanyu as heir in exile. Because Krishna (male) was undergoing a simultaneous attack at the time from Salwa. The Kauravas probably didn't expect him to survive, but he did.

So why were they scared of Panchali leaving alive and free? It's up to debate, but they clearly were.

One other reason I can think of is that besides Kuru, Panchal was the other kingdom thought to have a right on the imperial throne. Karna says it later to Salya. Could it have given them some kind of excuse to attack? Perhaps. And let's understand this clearly... Bheem and Arjun were formidable warriors, but Drona, Bheeshma, and Karna were beaten by Dhristadyumna, Shikhani, and Krishna Govinda. No matter what popular culture depicts, Vyasa said something else. If Panchal chose to attack, things could've gone either way.

Moreover, the Kauravas clearly had a healthy respect (read: fear) of Panchali's intelligence.

Then there was Vyasa, who clearly supported her.

Between Panchali, Vyasa, and Panchal, even with Krishna Govinda presumed dead, Kauravas would have had more trouble than they wanted.

purpose of Dice game was 2.

1. Take away Pandavas Kingdom

2. Disqualify Yudhishtir as a King. So that under no circumstances Yudhishitir can justify his rights to be a king again.

Shakuni and Duryodhan were using the dicegame as a permanent solution to get rid of Pandavas.

Getting Yudhishtir to lose in the dice game was easy.

It was the second part that was tough for them.

A mere loss in a game of dice however stupid it seems would never sway public opinion or opinions of other king's on Yudhishtir's right to rule.

Kings routinely lost their kingdoms, Most in wars but also a few in gambling Mahabharat itself has story of Nala Of Nishada who lost everything in dicegame and won it back again after learning how to play the game from King of Ayodhya. EVM Harivansh has story of dicegame between Balram and Rukmi where Balram loses but angered by Rukmi's mocking of his loss kills him with the diceboard.

So Yudhishtir knew that dicegame itself wouldnt be a problem as he would either win the game or his brothers would win it back with their valor if he loses.

It was the second part of the strategy that stumped Yudhishtir. Shakuni's master plan was Yudhi's own brothers questioning his judgement. Castigating his actions. If Yudhi's brothers declared he was wrong or his actions wrong, then definetly the whole world will. Yudhi would then never be able to rise up again as a claimant.

When Shakuni asked him to stake Nakul. He didnt ask Bhima whom Dury would have prefered torturing as a slave as he was Yudhi's own sibling. Being step brother if Nakul was staked, DDSK hoped they would protest. But he didn't and as Yudhi kept losing and staking all his brothers didn't protest. Because they understood the game plan too. They knew sooner or later they would figure out a loophole to wage a battle and take back everything or Krishna/Panchal would attack and free them.

That is when Shakuni asks Yudhi to stake the 6th Pandava. Draupadi.

Her castigating Yudhi in public would be even better as she represented PAnchal and once she left Yudhi he will be again without any allies just like they were after Lakshagriha. Krishna under attack by Salwa would not be able to help either.

Though she has a outburst with the guard who comes to summon her about Yudhi being a drunk fool. She smartly understands the goings on. (There is also a messenger sent by Yudhi asking her to come to sabha in a shabby state and plead their case)

She refuses to castigate Yudhi and instead chooses technical point of her stake being invalid to upset the whole strategy.

That actually showed the tremendous intelligence and capability that Draupadi had, not as a woman but as ruler. Capability to not just know the law/Dharma like Yudhi the misproclaimed Dharmaraj. Rather use it as a weapon against evil.

The verbal assault on her and Dussasan's attempt at disrobing her was DDSK trying escalate and to somehow Make either Draupadi or BANS desperate enough to go against Yudhishtir for causing the humiliation.

Almost always evil men who go against a strong woman, use public molestation as a tool to push them to desperation.

Duryodhan says that infact if any of the brothers admit that or if Yudhi himself says he was wrong to stake her they will let Draupadi go. Draupadi again smartly spins it on Shakuni that he cheated being an expert playing against an untrained Yudhi

The whole point of the dicegame was to destroy Yudhi's credibity. To get Yudhi's brothers or his wife or both to say Yudhi was wrong. His gambling and staking them was wrong and once they said that it would be a permanent victory for Duryodhan

This preventing loss of Yudhi's credibility to lead was also the reason why none of the brothers or Draupadi ever castigated him in public.

It was important for them to keep repeating to everyone that Yudhi was cheated and what happened was not his fault.

That was also the point of accepting the exile. Wait for public opinion to change for Yudhi from being a gambler to one being persecuted unfairly.

The Pandavas covered the whole country and met every influential rishi to plead their case. Instead of immediately going to their allied kings..

To lay the ground work for the blame of eventual bloodbath to fall on duryodhan