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Originally posted by: joliefemme

This is also one reason I don't believe kuch hua. He's too sloshed toh he's slept like he normally does. He's never crossed his lines in an inebriated state with Pallavi. Also, cheating is a line you can never undo in ITV. Makers will always leave room to bring him back. They were honestly walking on a thin rope as far as the events that led to the actual deed as well as the emotional manipulation he was facing after.

I'm glad it was toned down coz it was getting difficult in my head to understand or defend his actions specially when Esha suggested the EMA 🤢 I still wanted to see him react violently to her (verbal).

Z they have a bank of 5 episodes not 1.5 weeks. The tracks change due to trp and makers get the data the very next day so u will literally see them cut scenes edit and make changes depending on how the audience liked it.

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

But she should . She needs to space out, find her emotional balance and financial balance without him, and then come back to him only if he wins and earns her back.

If at all he really slept with Esha....if at all...then whats to say he wont do it again with her or any other woman. ??Once a person cuts loose...they can cut loose everytime. Esp if the spouse is very forgiving. Thats the makings of typical wife cheater.

I dont mind eventual forgiveness but can a wife sleep again with such a man?

@bold:- See this is where I differ. He did not intentionally sleep with Esha. He was drunk. If he was sober he would have never cheated on Pallavi. He is burning in guilt after the thing and he even contemplated dying as a better option. Do you think that kind of a person will ever cheat on his wife again? the way Raghav is he won't even drink after this. I hope the makers don't show him going devdas after Pallavi walks out of his life because drinking senselessly is what got him in this position.

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

But she should . She needs to space out, find her emotional balance and financial balance without him, and then come back to him only if he wins and earns her back.

If at all he really slept with Esha....if at all...then whats to say he wont do it again with her or any other woman. ??Once a person cuts loose...they can cut loose everytime. Esp if the spouse is very forgiving. Thats the makings of typical wife cheater.

I dont mind eventual forgiveness but can a wife sleep again with such a man?

They can if they can find it in themselves to forgive their husband. He clearly was heavily drunk and he's made it clear he has no feelings nor does he desire E in that way. We saw it, and he's made that clear to E. If P can see that, and understand it, then eventually yes, she'll be able to have a good relationship with her husband. If anything, the chances are higher that P will eventually forgive and move on from this but R will not. R will hold it against himself for the rest of their lives. P doesn't internalize a lot of things - this is why she's so resilient in the face of adversity. R is not the same way.

R is the type to rectify and learn from his mistakes - the lying is a different story bc that's a habitual thing. He's a habitual liar. He's not a habitual cheater. It's been clear from the beginning of the show that he despises cheaters. He'd never make this into a habit. And Pallavi knows this much about him.

No one is looking/expecting/wants her to forgive him right away. She needs time to, as you said, find her balance. I don't think she needs to find her financial balance without him - she's doing just fine in that way. But emotional yes.

I also think the majority, if not all, of us here want him to grovel, and essentially woo and earn her back. She deserves that from him.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Same I have these thoughts as well.

I was discussing with Soni yesterday on the below, let me know what u guys think.

So for Raghvi right now R strayed till the time Esha's truth is out. She'll break down, be shattered, leave, be emotionally distant and all that but will the makers show her deciding to stay in the relationship or not. Like what I'm trying to say is its easy to show P return to R once the whole truth is out that it was a trap and nothing happened. What would be gutsy is to show that P has it in her to forgive R and give him a chance seeing how much he's feeling the guilt and repenting. Idk I would love to see that though.

The way I see it is - Pallavi breaks down and feels hurt. She might even walk out of the RR Mansion. But then she might add the clues and figure out that Esha was trapping Raghav. Or maybe Raghav will realize that Esha is doing a chance pe dance and might tell his suspicions to Farhad or Amma. Once Pallavi suspects this is a trap, I want her to support Raghav and her marriage just the way Raghav did in Mandar track. Once they dispose of Esha then they both can decide on their hurt and talk about what happened and address their priorities. Raghav can shower his love on Pallavi and Pallavi can share her insecurities.

Originally posted by: PSharada

@bold:- See this is where I differ. He did not intentionally sleep with Esha. He was drunk. If he was sober he would have never cheated on Pallavi. He is burning in guilt after the thing and he even contemplated dying as a better option. Do you think that kind of a person will ever cheat on his wife again? the way Raghav is he won't even drink after this. I hope the makers don't show him going devdas after Pallavi walks out of his life because drinking senselessly is what got him in this position.

But j do feel that nothing happened... i mean thats what itv is for u... in end they will clear the image of the ML... no matter how ridiculous it sounds😆

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

But she should . She needs to space out, find her emotional balance and financial balance without him, and then come back to him only if he wins and earns her back.

If at all he really slept with Esha....if at all...then whats to say he wont do it again with her or any other woman. ??Once a person cuts loose...they can cut loose everytime. Esp if the spouse is very forgiving. Thats the makings of typical wife cheater.

I dont mind eventual forgiveness but can a wife sleep again with such a man?

Shalini the ones who cheat never really come clean and feel this amount of remorse. Even if Raghav did sleep with Esha, we can't categorise him in the same basket as a habitual cheater. My friend made a post the other day and make a nice correlation to murder, the sentence for murder depends on whether it is self defence, accidental, cold blooded etc. You can't pronounce the same sentence for all situations.

Raghav is not a habitual cheater. The Raghav we know would never cheat on Pallavi even in the initial days of marriage when he hated her.

Originally posted by: fria319

They can if they can find it in themselves to forgive their husband. He clearly was heavily drunk and he's made it clear he has no feelings nor does he desire E in that way. We saw it, and he's made that clear to E. If P can see that, and understand it, then eventually yes, she'll be able to have a good relationship with her husband. If anything, the chances are higher that P will eventually forgive and move on from this but R will not. R will hold it against himself for the rest of their lives. P doesn't internalize a lot of things - this is why she's so resilient in the face of adversity. R is not the same way.

R is the type to rectify and learn from his mistakes - the lying is a different story bc that's a habitual thing. He's a habitual liar. He's not a habitual cheater. It's been clear from the beginning of the show that he despises cheaters. He'd never make this into a habit. And Pallavi knows this much about him.

No one is looking/expecting/wants her to forgive him right away. She needs time to, as you said, find her balance. I don't think she needs to find her financial balance without him - she's doing just fine in that way. But emotional yes.

I also think the majority, if not all, of us here want him to grovel, and essentially woo and earn her back. She deserves that from him.

@bold:- Oh yes - I want that given that Raghav never really wooed Pallavi and their marriage was a compromise and he basically married her by blackmailing her about her brother. So yes she deserves Raghav to beg for forgiveness and I want him to grovel and woo her and earn her love and trust back.

Originally posted by: PSharada

@bold:- See this is where I differ. He did not intentionally sleep with Esha. He was drunk. If he was sober he would have never cheated on Pallavi. He is burning in guilt after the thing and he even contemplated dying as a better option. Do you think that kind of a person will ever cheat on his wife again? the way Raghav is he won't even drink after this. I hope the makers don't show him going devdas after Pallavi walks out of his life because drinking senselessly is what got him in this position.

Thats the aftereffects of making the mistake and blunder the first time..fear of repercussions and self loathing. But if forgiven easily, that same thing becomes a acceptable trait.

Now RR is not that kind you may say...but our RR was never the kind to even touch his wife on bed while drunk. All these days there were many scenes of him being drunk around Pals..they still didnt consummate. Nor he forced . So this is not at all our RR...the guy we know from beginning would never stay in same room with anyone other than Pallavi.

This is some other RR...whom CVs have made. And my fear is this mega change in characterization...if they keep doing that we land with another Anupama.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Same I have these thoughts as well.

I was discussing with Soni yesterday on the below, let me know what u guys think.

So for Raghvi right now R strayed till the time Esha's truth is out. She'll break down, be shattered, leave, be emotionally distant and all that but will the makers show her deciding to stay in the relationship or not. Like what I'm trying to say is its easy to show P return to R once the whole truth is out that it was a trap and nothing happened. What would be gutsy is to show that P has it in her to forgive R and give him a chance seeing how much he's feeling the guilt and repenting. Idk I would love to see that though.

Would love to see it bc that's what we call a real complex story, but they'd never show it. Its too complex/nuanced for them. To show that the right way - they really need to focus on both Pallavi & Raghav's emotional turmoil from being distanced like this (emotionally) from each other. And they'd really have to focus on Pallavi coming to terms with the fact that she can't live without him, no matter how much he hurt her.

The problem is, they never focus on Pallavi for more than 10 sec. 30 if we're lucky.

Originally posted by: fria319

They can if they can find it in themselves to forgive their husband. He clearly was heavily drunk and he's made it clear he has no feelings nor does he desire E in that way. We saw it, and he's made that clear to E. If P can see that, and understand it, then eventually yes, she'll be able to have a good relationship with her husband. If anything, the chances are higher that P will eventually forgive and move on from this but R will not. R will hold it against himself for the rest of their lives. P doesn't internalize a lot of things - this is why she's so resilient in the face of adversity. R is not the same way.

R is the type to rectify and learn from his mistakes - the lying is a different story bc that's a habitual thing. He's a habitual liar. He's not a habitual cheater. It's been clear from the beginning of the show that he despises cheaters. He'd never make this into a habit. And Pallavi knows this much about him.

No one is looking/expecting/wants her to forgive him right away. She needs time to, as you said, find her balance. I don't think she needs to find her financial balance without him - she's doing just fine in that way. But emotional yes.

I also think the majority, if not all, of us here want him to grovel, and essentially woo and earn her back. She deserves that from him.

Okay I got my answer Fria. I asked you something similar elsewhere which you can ignore now😆