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Posted: 4 years ago
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Emotional cheating in my opinion happens when feelings for one person , affects your relationship with your partner and it’s happening. Sorry for butting in but I'd like to add my perspective. I may be rambling but I lost my previously typed message and have no energy to write again. I purposely am avoiding drawing parallels between Mandar track and this cause they are there and right in your face but we need to see this in isolation and not as a she did he did scenerio.

  • Raghav claims to have moved on but still treasures Esha’s belongings in space he shares with Pallavi without her knowledge . He has not received closure from his past and hence had kept those things. On its own it doesn't signify that Raghav has any feelings for Esha. He had upfront come clean to Pallavi about his ex gf when he saw the mirchi salan and it was Pallavi who didn't want to talk about it. When she got to know the truth, Raghav did tell her everything that transpired and how much pain Esha's betrayal caused him. It is highly unrealistic to expect a person to tell their significant other everything about past relationships.
  • He yells at his wife for just a question about text messages? Why? Either he was safeguarding Esha or he felt conflicted about her answer, either way him shouting and acting out on Pallavi was wrong and man doesn’t care to introspect, why he did what he did 🤷‍♀️. Why did her me too matter so much that he behaved so rudely and fought with Pallavi? Raghav was always shown to be a non confrontational person. He was angry with Pallavi about the Keerti fiasco but never confronted her instead shut her down. Same thing happened in the idealogy track where he went all crazy drinking rather than talking and sorting matters. Sai also in his interview had said that R doesn't confront. He always has a flight response. Esha's message didn't bother him, he was totally in character to not confront the situation at hand and hence fought with Pallavi and slept off. He was wrong to do that no doubt but to wasn't due to conflicted feelings but due to his own non confrontational nature.
  • Drank to make Esha feel good ? I understand, in that moment he realised she sacrificed for him but he didn’t even have a fleeting thought about Pallavi or promise to her? Is it too much to ask for ? Just one thought? Or it was just a casual promise he broke on whim? If you've ever known an alcoholic you'd know it's not easy to stop. It's an addiction and takes a very strong resolve. There are rehabilitation centres to cater to this. I will not deny he should not have drank but he did and for this mistake he will pay a very heavy price.
  • He spend night there, didn’t he feel need to try and contact his wife ? Or how she must be worried for him? There were riots right ? Not once he felt like contacting home , he was too engrossed in Esha before and after she told her story . It was well established that the phone lines weren't working and even the intercoms weren't. When R first reached the hotel he tried to call Pallavi didn't he. How is he expected to reach her if the phone lines weren't working.
  • He pushed Pallavi because he felt disgusted, but later did he even care to think what she must’ve felt with his violent action? Or how she was roaming all night to find him ? He didn’t , too engrossed in his own that he doesn’t care to think how he’s hurting Pallavi, robbing her of her right to know truth . He was disgusted with himself and that's the reason he pushed her away. Had he not I'd have judged him pretty badly.

But I don't think I agree with you telling that Raghav is keeping himself above her. If that is true then Pallavi has always done that to him previously. With herself and the Deshmukhs...accusing him of the same things she has shielded for the D's. She had prioritized Mandar over Raghav previously.. not because she loved him.. but because at that time the situation demanded it.

She did prioritise Mandaar but always came back to see if Raghav was okay with it , and he faked being okay, here Raghav doesn’t care enough to look back and see how much his actions hurt her . He's not enjoying hurting her coz he's in pain too. His guilt is clearly visible in his tears and when he sat down next to his car holding his heart. He said he'd rather die than face Pallavi that was the amount of guilt he felt. He also spoke to LWR where clearly he said he doesn't want to hurt pallavi and that's why he wants to hide the truth. Again when this suicide news came out, he's worried pallavi will self harm, it's so evident in his reactions.


He is keeping his guilt and issues above her right to know truth and make a choice

He is keeping his guilt towards Esha above Pallavi.


He's not keeping his guilt for Esha above. He has not once thought about Esha in all this before Pallavi. His concerns are only for Pallavi. He clearly told Esha that he loves only Pallavi. Heck the man even inebriated was hallucinating Pallavi. I do blame him for hiding the truth and not giving her a choice but he's doing it out of his own insecurities and fear of abandonment and fear of causing pain to the woman he loves so much. I'm not condoning his mistakes but I understand him. He's guilty and he'll pay for the mistakes he's done.


I didn't blame Pallavi then, I won't blame Raghav now.

But yes, they need a break and Raghav needs to realise that hiding things won't help him or their relationship.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: joliefemme

Emotional cheating in my opinion happens when feelings for one person , affects your relationship with your partner and it’s happening. Sorry for butting in but I'd like to add my perspective. I may be rambling but I lost my previously typed message and have no energy to write again. I purposely am avoiding drawing parallels between Mandar track and this cause they are there and right in your face but we need to see this in isolation and not as a she did he did scenerio.

  • Raghav claims to have moved on but still treasures Esha’s belongings in space he shares with Pallavi without her knowledge . He has not received closure from his past and hence had kept those things. On its own it doesn't signify that Raghav has any feelings for Esha. He had upfront come clean to Pallavi about his ex gf when he saw the mirchi salan and it was Pallavi who didn't want to talk about it. When she got to know the truth, Raghav did tell her everything that transpired and how much pain Esha's betrayal caused him. It is highly unrealistic to expect a person to tell their significant other everything about past relationships.
  • He yells at his wife for just a question about text messages? Why? Either he was safeguarding Esha or he felt conflicted about her answer, either way him shouting and acting out on Pallavi was wrong and man doesn’t care to introspect, why he did what he did 🤷‍♀️. Why did her me too matter so much that he behaved so rudely and fought with Pallavi? Raghav was always shown to be a non confrontational person. He was angry with Pallavi about the Keerti fiasco but never confronted her instead shut her down. Same thing happened in the idealogy track where he went all crazy drinking rather than talking and sorting matters. Sai also in his interview had said that R doesn't confront. He always has a flight response. Esha's message didn't bother him, he was totally in character to not confront the situation at hand and hence fought with Pallavi and slept off. He was wrong to do that no doubt but to wasn't due to conflicted feelings but due to his own non confrontational nature.
  • Drank to make Esha feel good ? I understand, in that moment he realised she sacrificed for him but he didn’t even have a fleeting thought about Pallavi or promise to her? Is it too much to ask for ? Just one thought? Or it was just a casual promise he broke on whim? If you've ever known an alcoholic you'd know it's not easy to stop. It's an addiction and takes a very strong resolve. There are rehabilitation centres to cater to this. I will not deny he should not have drank but he did and for this mistake he will pay a very heavy price.
  • He spend night there, didn’t he feel need to try and contact his wife ? Or how she must be worried for him? There were riots right ? Not once he felt like contacting home , he was too engrossed in Esha before and after she told her story . It was well established that the phone lines weren't working and even the intercoms weren't. When R first reached the hotel he tried to call Pallavi didn't he. How is he expected to reach her if the phone lines weren't working.
  • He pushed Pallavi because he felt disgusted, but later did he even care to think what she must’ve felt with his violent action? Or how she was roaming all night to find him ? He didn’t , too engrossed in his own that he doesn’t care to think how he’s hurting Pallavi, robbing her of her right to know truth . He was disgusted with himself and that's the reason he pushed her away. Had he not I'd have judged him pretty badly.

But I don't think I agree with you telling that Raghav is keeping himself above her. If that is true then Pallavi has always done that to him previously. With herself and the Deshmukhs...accusing him of the same things she has shielded for the D's. She had prioritized Mandar over Raghav previously.. not because she loved him.. but because at that time the situation demanded it.

She did prioritise Mandaar but always came back to see if Raghav was okay with it , and he faked being okay, here Raghav doesn’t care enough to look back and see how much his actions hurt her . He's not enjoying hurting her coz he's in pain too. His guilt is clearly visible in his tears and when he sat down next to his car holding his heart. He said he'd rather die than face Pallavi that was the amount of guilt he felt. He also spoke to LWR where clearly he said he doesn't want to hurt pallavi and that's why he wants to hide the truth. Again when this suicide news came out, he's worried pallavi will self harm, it's so evident in his reactions.


He is keeping his guilt and issues above her right to know truth and make a choice

He is keeping his guilt towards Esha above Pallavi.


He's not keeping his guilt for Esha above. He has not once thought about Esha in all this before Pallavi. His concerns are only for Pallavi. He clearly told Esha that he loves only Pallavi. Heck the man even inebriated was hallucinating Pallavi. I do blame him for hiding the truth and not giving her a choice but he's doing it out of his own insecurities and fear of abandonment and fear of causing pain to the woman he loves so much. I'm not condoning his mistakes but I understand him. He's guilty and he'll pay for the mistakes he's done.


I didn't blame Pallavi then, I won't blame Raghav now.

But yes, they need a break and Raghav needs to realise that hiding things won't help him or their relationship.


💯💯💯💯 precisely my thoughts.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Beautiful post . You explained things beautifully and it does make sense to an extent but still one more thing wasnt discussed here hence i would like to know . Why do you think he brought Easha home ? She’s his ex and don’t you think bringing her home where he stays with his wife isn’t right ? Did he think once about Pallavi b4 bringing her home ? If he’s so concerned about Pallavi knowing the truth and leaving him after that why would he bring the woman he slept with in the same house where Pallavi lives ?

Last but most importantly Easha said Dont leave Pallavi but give me my rights if you have any feelings left in you for me and he agreed to act upon her demands ? Again why ? Wasn’t he supposed to make it clear to her about not having any feelings for her and whatever he’s doing he’s doing as an old friend and not something else ? Instead he gave into her demands therefore confirmed her doubts about him harboring feelings for her still right ? Why would he do that ?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I didn't watch today's episode so I can't comment on that. This was with reference to the previously telecasted scenes and people's furore over the same. I tried to analyse the controversial since then. As for now, I would see the track till it plays out and then make changes if I find any in my perspective.


And precaps are generally misleading as you might have experienced before. Lets see what has happened.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for writing. Baffled to hear ppl sending you hate messages over a fictional character. ugh. These are the same ones who drove away old members from this forum. The moment you write something positive abt Raghav they come in packs and attack you.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Very insightful post... loved the way you have thoughtfully analyzed the situations....now let us see why Raghav gets her home...but there are parallels with M track and the same are very evident....only difference here is they showed physical intimacy...intimacy is wrong I may say violation or assault as what E did according to me was assault and all her sacrifices have become meaningless...but again E may have thought let me grab this once in life time opportunity...but thereafter she is emotionally manipulating Raghav and hence E is negative as she is trying to emotionally manipulate Raghav..



So sorry you received such nasty DMs ....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnushkhaA

AUTHOR'S NOTES:-


1. Before anyone starts reading this, I want to clearly state that this is not moral policing and I am not saying anything in regards to any particular person. Please don't take offence. We all have freedom of expression, so I am expressing my views on the matter. I don't want anyone to feel attacked or otherwise due to my thoughts or opinions. And should anyone feel derogated (which is not my intention) I apologize from beforehand.


2. And the next thing is, this post is open for discussion for only those who wish to keep an open mind and truly are at a loss of an opinion or who if anyone wants to get a perspective from both ends. Please do not comment here to bash any character or criticise me for my opinions needlessly, I will not tolerate hate comments. This is a free country, all are welcomed to their individual interpretations of any situation and to put forth their views. So please try to refrain from doing that. Anyone who strongly feels otherwise to my beliefs feel free to gracefully ignore this post.


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I had previously posted in the forum that I would not comment on the present track before seeing how the entire thing plays out but since my previous posts I am getting various dm's criticising me and basically bashing me for my views.

I do not know what have I stated which hurt the sentiments of people this bad?

So instead of replying individually, I decided to post another message open to all. Please read carefully and with an open mind. I am again apologizing if something I say or had said previously hurt anyone personally. It wasn't my intention.

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So, when this track initially began I was kind of looking forward to it. It was a good way to reveal to the audience Raghav's past. Situations which has ultimately formed the man we have come to know as the Raghav Rao, Don of Hyderabad. I always had a feeling that there might have been a situation with a girl seeing how every time, it was implied in any track that he doesn't trust easily, is very prone to always see any person with a negative light unless it is proven otherwise. As he had done with Pallavi. He even mentions to Farhad in his drunken state, that he hates women with a passion. Cue, some betrayal which had broken his heart in the past.


So I wasn't as surprised when this concept of a former lover was introduced. What I was surprised at was how Esha was suddenly made an object of ridicule and criticism heads on. The past hadn't even been cleared off at that time. I had liked Esha initially. She seemed like a level headed girl, and it was clearly implied that what Raghav knew happened, the actual truth was far from it. It was shown quite beautifully through her picture album. One who doesn't have the heart left to preserve would only have the memories of that time kept close. Maybe in the form of pictures. We were given a glimpse of a much younger, carefree Raghav, not marred by circumstances of the world this bad yet.


Of course there was another issue that how come he was shown being happy with a girl during college time just after his father and younger brother's death which was a direct accusation at his head. What I like to believe is however much we blame ourselves for one situation and stay masochistic in hopes of redemption by hurting ourselves, there is always a lingering side deep in our hearts where we wish to come out the pain. We wish to happy. We do not wish to suffer.


So it is much probable that knowing how much suffering he was going through at that time, he wanted an emotional crutch. Someone in his life who can make the pain go away, even for a few moments. Being in love and staying in it doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't working towards his redemption or struggling to earn money. Heck, at that time I am thinking he might not even had that much obsession with being rich. It was more of a consequence of what transpired between the last attachment he had had since a long spiral into the darkness which made Raghav into Raghav Rao.


Now comes the time when we were surprised seeing Raghav feel miserable because of the hurt caused to him by a woman he would have liked to forget even though being married and madly in love with another at the present. Well, I didn't find it that shocking. I mean, emotions as has been shown, clearly not his forte'. He doesn't know how to handle being emotionally compromised. Thus, his chronic alcoholism. It is easier to cry when the alcohol would dull the ache in your chest and numb your other senses into a blessed unawareness.


A stupid painkiller, this alcohol which gives a euphoric delusion transiently only to act as a slow poison as time passes. Yet for an alcoholic, who has used this vile drink (which turns even the most respectable men into complete scoundrels...srry couldn't resist.. fav dialogue from a movie) as an emotional crutch for nearly less than a decade, the withdrawal symptoms are too great for him to resist the promise of one peg. But I will come to that later...


Now, comes the scene which kind of divided the forum into two halves.


Raghav reveals his side of the past to Pallavi. He is hurt, in pain, still astounded to some extent at what happened with him and entranced in the memory of what could have been, had Esha not broken his heart to smithereens. The suffering mixed with such a heart breaking confusion on her husband's face is extremely painful for Pallavi to watch. And that is what I would like to believe had been her thoughts at the moment. Pallavi, has always been shown as the more mature one, the more secure one in the relationship. She knows how to handle her emotions and balance a relationship. These reflect the strength of her character as usual. So, I don't think that pain on her face while Raghav walked her through his traumatic past must have been because he referred to Esha as his soulmate. No, what I think the makers tried to do, is cast a parallelism to a scene from a few months back... where Raghav tells about the killings of his father and brother...


She had cried in his pain, that day as well ( a mind-blowing performance by Shivangi.. I just had to interrupt again.. srry) and they weren't even in love at that time. At least not as deeply as now. Her livid anger at the Esha the other morning just proves my theory. She was mad at the woman who had hurt Raghav so deeply that it had scarred him irrevocably forcing him to retreat back so much into his shell as a self defence mechanism that it had almost broken both of them to pull him out of there.


I was kind of taken aback at the responses people were giving after seeing that scene when it was telecasted. I mean, obviously he would be affected by the return of a person who had impacted his very character so harshly due to reasons unknown.


Now I am ready to plunge into dicey territories... the most controversial scenes are from hereafter.


Please bear with me.


The scene at the hotel room. Raghav had taken Esha's room and she had opted to go out instead, during night time, in a place ripe with riots and mindless killings. Raghav follows her only to see her getting literally swept away in a car. What could be the consequent scenarios running in his mind at that? Any guesses.. I don't think I need to elaborate that considering the generation we live in unfortunately and being a woman at that. (Pls, don't think otherwise, I am proud to be a women.. we are smarter than men come on! But whenever news like the Priyanka Reddy case, reaches my ear.. I am like.. Goddd! Make me a man just when come back home during late nights.. heh! Again interrupted.)


So he follows her, interrupts her abusive divorced husband from kidnapping her and brings her back to his (her) hotel room. All this for a woman he hates, but then, fundamentals of a character wouldn't change.. and Raghav will always be protective of anyone who has ever been his or has helped him in anyway.. and that also the moral compass wouldn't have allowed him to leave her at that state. Let us forget that they had been friends before being a couple and breaking up.


Here, Esha refuses initially to state her reasons for the break up but Raghav is adamant. He deserves to know. Yes! He does. He does deserve to know because she had ruined him with her foolhardiness and he had burned in that fire for a damn long time till God thrusted Pallavi into his life like a saviour angel. She is his messiah! His oasis in this never ending desert of guilt and ache. His salvation. And he knows that. Believe me, he does. But still, the need to put an end to his millions of questions over which he had pulled a rug is great because that is the only way he could free himself from all the shackles of his past. He needs to wash the grime away, cleanse himself, carve out what's rotten in him even if that means to cut out his very flesh before he could offer himself to the woman he worships.


And then the big reveal. Esha spills the beans.


Another shocker which adds another layer of self loathing and guilt to an already messed up man. And here lies another problem. Esha had always been in love with Raghav and looks like she doesn't intend to change that any time soon. Till, this scene I was feeling horrible for her. She has knowingly, willingly, and intentionally sacrificed her love, her ensuing happiness and life for the him. Isn't that we all strive to do when in love? She might not be the one he has ended up with and she may not have been made for him even.. but she had paved the way for him, however painful to ultimately reach Pallavi... the woman he was always meant to be with.


Here in my previous post someone drew a very interesting yet somehow surpassingly apt comparison.


Veer-Zara.. remember the Yash Chopda romance which made all of us cry buckets and then feel silly about ourselves ( at least I felt silly..).


Veer had done something very similar for Zara, he agreed to get a life imprisonment term for the woman he loved, to spare her life in a foreign country without letting the said woman ever coming to know of him. Of course, he hadn't broke off with her in such harsh terms but still, a parallel can be drawn. Zara didn't end up with someone else though.. but had she found love again and settled down, how should she have reacted knowing what Veer did for her? Agreed, Esha didn't go to jail still marrying an abusive ba*tard is enough of a penalty.


How painful it is to know that the one you love so much, will look at you with nothing short of hatred in their eyes even as you had to break their hearts to preserve their lives?


Immensely painful, I say.. at least that's what I felt. So till here, I felt much more terrible for Esha then I did for either Raghav or Pallavi.


So, now what should have Raghav done? Give her first aid and go away telling sorry darling for misjudging you but I love Pallavi now so tataz? Lets catch up later..


Raghav is completely at sea. He had come to know what Esha had done for him. The woman whom he had blamed forever for breaking his heart, turning him into a stone cold monster, removing his belief over love and trust has been actually silently suffering a hellish nightmare of a life for his sake? Whilst he got his happily ever after? For a man whose second nature is to fall into a similar pattern of guilt, is it realistic that he would lose himself again in a folly he hadn't consciously committed against a person he had once loved so much. Still, even in this messy state he remembers to say that he has a lovely wife.


Pallavi... does he even deserve her?


Esha congratulates him, tells him that she is happy, even as her heart breaks and her eyes water and her voice quivers... because she wants to make him feel better. Guilt rises like an acidic hot bile in Raghav's throat. He couldn't feel the same emotions he had once felt for her.. even after knowing what she has done for him. He wants to make her feel better. He wants to atone for this. He doesn't want to fall in this storm again which ripped him into pieces once. All he wants is to make everything better and live his life with Pallavi.


What does he do?


Tries to bring in familiarity in the highly awkward situation. Food is a great healer. So, her favourite food.. Chinese he remembers.. just like a close friend would.. Esha mistakes it as something else. Raghav has successfully made it more awkward, he curses himself. Whiskey..? He remembers he has left drinking. She wouldn't drink unless he doesn't. She is upset and he wants to fall back in their previous friendship days. If he can't give her love, cause he had bequeathed his heart to another, he may as well try to compensate with the old friendship they shared. Anything to make that guilt go away.


He tries to stay away. But his emotions are spiralling out of control He needs either of his emotional crutch now... Pallavi or alcohol. No, Pallavi... so alcohol for now.


What did you do Raghav! Arrghhhh!


I wished to throw my remote on his face at that moment! Not because he broke his promise like I had though earlier.. but because he allowed his weaknesses to get better of him again, falling back into a similar pattern which as he had discovered messes him up more than clearing the situation.


He needs to bring his issues under control. This is my thought at that time.


Then is when the major damage happens. He is sloshed soon.. chronic alcoholic here guys, can't expect him to stop after one peg when the promise of more is hanging at the background. I believe that challenge was more for Esha to numb her pain than as a mere friendly rivalry. I don't know whether she will be turned negative in the track so I can't comment on her intentions as of yet. But this is just an assumption going from the current telecasts.


Then what happened took away most of my sympathy for Esha. Loving someone is fine but taking advantage of that trust, the affection is absolutely, humiliatingly and criminally wrong. Raghav agreed to drink, feeling comfortable with her after knowing her intentions was a proof of his naivety, his guilt and his trust on Esha. He didn't want to hurt her any more than she already is. How would he have known she would have taken advantage of him thus? Her expressing her love was a result of the drink messing her mind. He was uncomfortable but he didn't want to leave her like that.. not in her senses. It was dangerous.


But then Esha did what she did. Even after specifically hearing him taking Pallavi's name. Knowing who Pallavi is..? Hearing him calling out for his wife.. recognizing the situation, fully conscious if inebriated as well, she did it. I believe Raghav's saying that he misses Pallavi is prophetic and foreshadowing as well. He is in an emotional turmoil and the only person who could bring him out of that state is her.


The ensuing scenes hereafter is a consequence of how society has conditioned men. They are bound to look at themselves as sexual predators in any situation rather than as victims. That also from a woman nonetheless. Some are proud of that fact and some are disgusted. We all know Raghav falls in the other category. Here comes another two issues. He should tell the truth. No arguments there. He definitely should. Pallavi deserves that much. But, why is he so terrified all the same isn't reasonless. That is what I had said in the previous post. If someone was confused at that, I am sorry.


Raghav has severe abandonment issues. Mental health is India, mostly is not taken seriously at all. They ridicule it and make it into a taboo. But, what is prevalent is there.. you cannot wish it away. The damage done to him in his formative years has taken a hefty toll on him throughout the past decade. You cannot change a person overnight like that. Having insecurity for people leaving him has been a cumulative damage done to him. First, his father and his brother, then Keerti and Jaya.. then Esha... all of them had ultimately left him. And all of the reasons he believes his his fault somewhere or the other. Can you detect a pattern here?


We have always seen Raghav wanting to hear Pallavi say 'I love you' to him, making her promise him that she wouldn't leave him ever.. the nerve melting fear of almost loosing her to death. All this repeated over and over again. Though Pallavi has shown him time and again that she wouldn't leave his side, the terror of her leaving him sooner or later has been corroded into him given his traumatic experiences. This is not mere insecurity.. this a mental defect. I am no psychiatrist and neither have I any major or minor is psychology but still it is as clear as the day to me. A fear embedded so strongly into him several times over will not go away so soon.


And let us not forget that he had married her forcefully. However far they come into their relationship that lingering shadow that he had taken her choice away would forever trouble him in the background. It is very prudent (though stupid in his part if he truly believes that) that what Pallavi feels for him might be an overexaggerated bout of Stockholm syndrome. And she might break out of her trance at any given time. Had she been given a choice instead she would have never married him let alone love him.


Now the issue of him pushing her away when she tries to hug him. Has anyone thought how disgusted he might be of himself at the moment. I mean, if he had hugged her instead of pushing away I would have been seriously upset. That would have made things so creepy. As if he had not one ounce of guilt at what happened. He is reacting so harshly because he cannot even bring himself to touch him, let alone letting Pallavi. If he could, he would ripe his very hide off his bones and dispose it in the garbage dump. His behaviour is not surprising to me at all. This is what Raghav is. He pushes away, he reacts irrationally and is extremely volatile when he is emotional. Just because he had softened a little falling in love again, doesn't mean all his vices have gone away. These are character traits. He is stuck in a rock and a hard place. If he wants to hug her, he needs to confess and the irrational fear of her leaving him is stopping him from confessing.


Then comes the issue of him going to check on Esha.


I for one would have left everything in any situation if I had any sliver of a suspicion that even my enemy or the person I hate the most might commit suicide. I don't want any death on my conscience just because someone left desperate enough to take their own lives. I believe so would Raghav. I don't think he needed any more complications in is already messed up life. (considering he carries two corpses on his shoulders anyways and would continue to do it throughout his life. He doesn't need another.)


So, in conclusion to my head splittingly long post is that I am not against Pallavi and Raghav taking a break from each other. I am just strongly against the reasons being sited for the same. And the heaps and heaps of bashing being done on the characters, Raghav taking the brunt of it. And mostly so that people do not enter my DMs with knives and forks.


If Pallavi feels that her love is stronger than all his issues, if she feels that their relationship deserves a chance even after all the complications which has twisted her husband into a walking talking time bomb then she can opt for a break. But is she is directly telling him that she is leaving him because he cheated on her, that would be technically wrong and will cement all his reservations about revealing the truth to her at the first place.


Raghav doesn't need to feel abandoned to rectify his problems.. he doesn't take Pallavi for granted like he is accused of.. in fact its just the opposite. He depends too much on her. We have let Pallavi take the moral high ground because of the previous track. She had been shot. But the point is, I believe I can look at people for their intention rather than the consequence of the same. In that perspective Raghav has chosen Pallavi over his own life not one but two times. He had been on the verge of accepting a life imprisonment for her.. only because she told she would burn her hand. That is equivalent to getting shot if not worse. Through's god's grace (obviously makers.. make God enter when logic takes a leave) though, he was spared that... but the intention was very much prevalent. Thank you Sunny... again. Or else he would have shot Mandaar dead that day. The second time as we all know, he had pressed the barrel of his gun on his own temple. And God knows the crazy dude would have blown his brains out had Sharda not given an Olympic worthy throw.


It is not his fault that he couldn't go through with his intentions and Pallavi could.


But dismissing his love against hers because of this.... I would think again.


The love, respect, trust.. all is there and in heaps. The main problem with the situation is that Pallavi has fallen for a man whose issues have issues. She had chosen to love someone who has been broken somewhere irrevocably by circumstances, people and the world in a whole.


He is piping hot mess!


So in reality if Pallavi should separate, which she has all the rights to do, then she must do it because she feels she cannot further struggle with his issues. Not because he apparently 'cheated' on her. Emotionally or whatsoever


What Raghav needs is time away from all the messes in his life and possibly engage in proper psychiatric treatment. He needs a doctor, a therapist. If he believes that there is still one percent chance that he could be rectified, that he could become normal again and that even away, Pallavi is waiting for him at the end of the tunnel.. together or not, he will come out victorious. I mean, like someone had so intelligently said in the forum, '


'That man could defeat Napoleon himself with his dogged determination..'


This was all I had to say. Let us watch the track entirely and see how it plays out...

Wow I really loved ur analysis and after a very long time felt that someone is actually in a true trying to understand Raghav .❤️❤️

It's really commendable how in detail u have presented and have tried to make sense of this mess.

I also loved another post of urs and even then agreed to everything u said.


I as I've said before I can relate to Raghav alot as I've been down that lane myself fighting abandonment issues and depression for years .

Even though to the world I appearead a happy go lucky extrovert chirpy girl who had a great sense of humour and loved dancing and football within me I fought a battle daily trying not to succumb to my fears and darkness of a very traumatic childhood leaving me mentally disturbed.

I could understand how he gave into drinking that one peg and the rest that followed and also his behaviour towards esha .

It's a messy situation but I hope these directors deal with it sensitively and also highlight if possible the importance of seeking help and councelling and mainly the violation done by Esha on Raghav.

Raghav once comes clean to Pallavi it's then all up to her on how she wishes to deal with it.

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Oh I am so glad you think so. I am sorry you had to go through with all this but I can understand when I see abandonment issues in someone. Someone whom I love, a very close friend of mine developed this after a rather nasty breakup. At that time I used to accompany her to therapy. I mean, obviously not inside the therapists chamber.. but once the doctor had called on to talk to me specifically.


I had been made aware of this issue quite seriously and it is kinda heartbreaking how this leads to people completely messing up their lives. This leads to a serious disbalance of relationships and severe inferiority complex in people which can unfortunately translate into subsequent violent behavior. I don't know what the makers have planned as the future of this track but as of now, though I donot condone his act of hiding the truth... I can understand where he is coming from.

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Originally posted by: AnushkhaA

Oh I am so glad you think so. I am sorry you had to go through with all this but I can understand when I see abandonment issues in someone. Someone whom I love, a very close friend of mine developed this after a rather nasty breakup. At that time I used to accompany her to therapy. I mean, obviously not inside the therapists chamber.. but once the doctor had called on to talk to me specifically.


I had been made aware of this issue quite seriously and it is kinda heartbreaking how this leads to people completely messing up their lives. This leads to a serious disbalance of relationships and severe inferiority complex in people which can unfortunately translate into subsequent violent behavior. I don't know what the makers have planned as the future of this track but as of now, though I donot condone his act of hiding the truth... I can understand where he is coming from.

Yeah it's definitely a nasty place to be in it left me unable to trust and commit to relationships. Its not that I loved them any less but the trauma of a abusive childhood was such that I couldn't overcome it causing me to get panic attacks and at times waking up to not remembering the last few hours of the painful ache and fear I was battling before I lapsed into a non epileptical seizure.

I felt really upset and uneasy but could definitely understand where the criticism was coming from when people on the forum were talking about how Raghav in the flashbacks with his ex seemed happy and unaffected by his trauma of having lost a brother and his father as at times it's very difficult to judge what he or she are thinking as we often walk around with a mask hiding our trueselves.

As when I was going through depression and abandonment issues it was very difficulty to judge looking at me that I was suffering from it unless u knew me really well as to the world I was the most talkative , confident , easy going girl in my class who was extremely focussed and someone loved sports , dancing and martial arts and was super popular in my school and college.

I'd even lie about my attacks saying that they happened due to chronic migraine as I was afraid of being judged .

I'd also keep running away from relationships telling my self that I'm extremely ambitious and hence didn't want to waste my time getting involved in relationships at a young age when I should be focusing on getting a good job and doing well academically.

Today I'm 21 well almost 22 and much better after I reached out to a councellor and accepted that it's not a tabboo and that it is ok to reach out for help.

Today I've no calms in saying I'm a depression survivor as it's my biggest achievement.

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Originally posted by: Shraddha6789

Yeah it's definitely a nasty place to be in it left me unable to trust and commit to relationships. Its not that I loved them any less but the trauma of a abusive childhood was such that I couldn't overcome it causing me to get panic attacks and at times waking up to not remembering the last few hours of the painful ache and fear I was battling before I lapsed into a non epileptical seizure.

I felt really upset and uneasy but could definitely understand where the criticism was coming from when people on the forum were talking about how Raghav in the flashbacks with his ex seemed happy and unaffected by his trauma of having lost a brother and his father as at times it's very difficult to judge what he or she are thinking as we often walk around with a mask hiding our trueselves.

As when I was going through depression and abandonment issues it was very difficulty to judge looking at me that I was suffering from it unless u knew me really well as to the world I was the most talkative , confident , easy going girl in my class who was extremely focussed and someone loved sports , dancing and martial arts and was super popular in my school and college.

I'd even lie about my attacks saying that they happened due to chronic migraine as I was afraid of being judged .

I'd also keep running away from relationships telling my self that I'm extremely ambitious and hence didn't want to waste my time getting involved in relationships at a young age when I should be focusing on getting a good job and doing well academically.

Today I'm 21 well almost 22 and much better after I reached out to a councellor and accepted that it's not a tabboo and that it is ok to reach out for help.

Today I've no calms in saying I'm a depression survivor as it's my biggest achievement.


Shraddha smiley31. Similar story here. I can relate to you. Its easy to judge but its more difficult to understand. Still suffer from panic attacks, anxiety and trust issues. So proud of you.

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