Thoughts about today's episode - Page 2

Originally posted by: joliefemme

For you too 🤗

You know how I've been having conflicting opinions off late but the first 30 seconds when I saw Raghav's turmoil and reflect back on how much he loves her, I realised isko 100 khoon maaf hai.

I'm a Raghvi fan and I love both of them but I cried for Raghav in the first 30 seconds. He's made mistakes and he'll pay a heavy price. He doesn't deserve to lose the love of his life for this. Pallavi is very practical and she'll realise eventually that it was a set up. She's going to stand by him.

I know Pallavi deserves an honest husband so I really hope he is able to muster up the courage to come clean to her. It's not going to be easy but I wish he trusts his love and their relationship to be able to be fair to her. He needs to give her a choice to decide.

I am going to cry for Pallavi when the truth breaks her as well. We are in for a lot of pain in the coming episodes... Shitttt

We seriously need more fans like you 🤗

I’m glad you also saw this

After every episode now I go bashing raghav but I forget that Pallavi is still his love

I couldn’t remember the turmoil he was going through at the beginning of the episode because I was upset with him for lying, but after I rewatched I realized that he’s also in pain

He thinks by hiding this truth from Pallavi he’s SAVING her from pain but he doesn’t realize that she’s going to be hurt either way

I hate this track, but I also don’t think it’s necessarily that bad if they execute it properly

we need to clearly be able to see the pain that Pallavi is going to go through for this track to work

I just hope people don’t stop supporting the show, seeing Raghav’s redemption and Pallavi’s pain will be a treat to watch for SaiShi, they will nail it

RR is under the impression that he got intimate with Eesha, by seeing his condition the next morning. He has not comprehend what happen, he is going by what he saw. Anyone in his place would feel the same, no one will rewind what happen, or even think it was a setup.

I even doubt he remembered he thought of Pallavi when seeing Eesha.

He is feeling guilty, which is blocking his brain to think wisely and remember anything of that night. He is going by what he saw.

If indeed RR did get intimate, I think then RR can't be redeem, and makers already know fans don't like Raghvi separated, lesson they learn during Mandar track. And this is ITV, we like RR types characters (Arnav Singh Raizada, RK, Maan Singh Khurana etc) half crazy guys but none infidel.

So only way to redeem RR, is to prove he is innocent.

Originally posted by: partner

RR is under the impression that he got intimate with Eesha, by seeing his condition the next morning. He has not comprehend what happen, he is going by what he saw. Anyone in his place would feel the same, no one will rewind what happen, or even think it was a setup.

I even doubt he remembered he thought of Pallavi when seeing Eesha.

He is feeling guilty, which is blocking his brain to think wisely and remember anything of that night. He is going by what he saw.

If indeed RR did get intimate, I think then RR can't be redeem, and makers already know fans don't like Raghvi separated, lesson they learn during Mandar track. And this is ITV, we like RR types characters (Arnav Singh Raizada, RK, Maan Singh Khurana etc) half crazy guys but none infidel.

So only way to redeem RR, is to prove he is innocent.

If this is the case then yes he can be proved innocent and pallavi might help him in that

because she still loves him

but she might also distance herself and be angry with him or leave him which is what I want to see, I hope she makes him understand that his lying is part of the problem, not just the one night stand

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@bold: I know many people are in fence when it comes to “ did the deed happen or not”…

My personal opinion is they DID unless they come up with something in specific in future to negate it…as of now there is no reason to believe it did not happen..

Raghav didn’t fully pass out..he was still in a semi conscious state…

He was conscious enough to feel Esha’s touch and when she pulls away her hand on hearing Pallavi…he himself holds it back and pulls her towards him and invites her for intimacy…yes he was imagining Pallavi here…my point is he was conscious enough to feel the person next to him, imagine another and initiate/ accept intimacy…This is where Esha crosses the line…and the last hand gesture, she holds him and he tightened the grip..so he was a consensual participant in a semi conscious state till that point.. he also remembers it the next morning proves that he didn’t completely pass out…

They can come up with something in future to imply that he didn’t proceed or respond after that but that’s a hypothetical situation…as of now both believe they did and there is no reason not to believe them..

Personally, it holds no importance for me to hold him accountable for the betrayal..

I personally think he slept off and nothing happened. But I agree unless shown specifically there is no reason to not believe what was hinted at.

I know story is written in a certain way to create drama and as viewers perhaps we should let it slide but eh, the justifications being put forth to give Raghav a leeway even when distinctly there is so much problematic about his actions blows my mind. A female character in a similar situation would have been crucified for not doing half as shady stuff as Raghav does.

Originally posted by: partner

RR is under the impression that he got intimate with Eesha, by seeing his condition the next morning. He has not comprehend what happen, he is going by what he saw. Anyone in his place would feel the same, no one will rewind what happen, or even think it was a setup.

I even doubt he remembered he thought of Pallavi when seeing Eesha.

He is feeling guilty, which is blocking his brain to think wisely and remember anything of that night. He is going by what he saw.

If indeed RR did get intimate, I think then RR can't be redeem, and makers already know fans don't like Raghvi separated, lesson they learn during Mandar track. And this is ITV, we like RR types characters (Arnav Singh Raizada, RK, Maan Singh Khurana etc) half crazy guys but none infidel.

So only way to redeem RR, is to prove he is innocent.

@bold he did remember in the morning imagining Pallavi while doing it..

Pls go watch the the scene with his alter ego (LWR)…he tells him that he was imagining Pallavi in Esha’s place..

I understand you don’t want him to get intimate with Esha…that’s fine

All I am saying is the they both accepted to doing it…they both were in semi conscious state while engaging in intimacy and they willingly participated in it…no assault was involved…only that Raghav was imagining Pallavi…the scene implied it happened..Esha closing in for a kiss and the hand gestures…so unless they come up with something in future to say they did not proceed after that we have no reason to believe that it did not happen…

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@bold he did remember in the morning imagining Pallavi while doing it..

Pls go watch the the scene with his alter ego (LWR)…he tells him that he was imagining Pallavi in Esha’s place..

I understand you don’t want him to get intimate with Esha…that’s fine

All I am saying is the they both accepted to doing it…they both were in semi conscious state while engaging in intimacy and they willingly participated in it…no assault was involved…only that Raghav was imagining Pallavi…the scene implied it happened..Esha closing in for a kiss and the hand gestures…so unless they come up with something in future to say they did not proceed after that we have no reason to believe that it did not happen…

Whether it happened or not is something that doesn’t matter anymore

unless some pregnancy angle comes up

what matters is Raghav was so drunk that he didn’t realize it was NOT pallavi, when Esha KNEW that Raghav was imagining Pallavi

She KNOWINGLY did that, which is gross and I won’t blame raghav for that

That is why I hate Esha now because she REALIZED he was talking about Pallavi

My only issue now is that he’s lying to Pallavi, I don’t expect her to sympathize with him in the fact that he’s hiding the truth

she might be able to understand WHY he’s hiding the truth but she’s bound to be hurt and that’s completely acceptable

Originally posted by: beguiling

I personally think he slept off and nothing happened. But I agree unless shown specifically there is no reason to not believe what was hinted at.

I know story is written in a certain way to create drama and as viewers perhaps we should let it slide but eh, the justifications being put forth to give Raghav a leeway even when distinctly there is so much problematic about his actions blows my mind. A female character in a similar situation would have been crucified for not doing half as shady stuff as Raghav does.

@Bold tell me about it.. he has already indulged in so much for which he needs to be held accountable..but tons of justification they come up with to negate his problematic behavior is mind boggling…i am okay with it too ..what disturbs me to the core is when they come up with unreasonable expectations from her to make him look better & comfortable…

She should still stay with him even after knowing about infidelity…

She should not trust that he slept with a another woman even if he admits it..but she should completely trust him when he says that he did not do it intentionally..look at the contradiction here!!!

She should help him overcome with his regret, pain guilt and together they should fight it out…

No matter what he does she should be with him because he can’t survive without her…so it’s Him only Him..what about her dignity honor and self respect...

So basically she should always be the provider no matter what she goes through, even though, she is the one who has been wronged, she is the one who has been constantly lied too, she is the one who got cheated, she is the one who has been subjected to rude behavior and neglect

My heart cried for her when she sought some solace & assurance from him after all the anxiety she went through and what she got, he not only failed to reassure her but rudely jerked her off..to make her feel unwanted…he had his reasons but why should she suffer for his mistakes… Have the decency to tell her truth and let her decide..she survives or dies that’s her call instead he is putting her through hell for the sins he committed, justice delayed is justice denied and Raghav is denying her justice for his own selfish reasons.

We will still expect compassion from the victim while we show her none yes, because we love the offender more than her..that’s the sad truth…

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@Bold tell me about it.. he has already indulged in so much for which he needs to be held accountable..but tons of justification they come up with to negate his problematic behavior is mind boggling…i am okay with it too ..what disturbs me to the core is when they come up with unreasonable expectations from her to make him look better & comfortable…

She should still stay with him even after knowing about infidelity…

She should not trust that he slept with a another woman even if he admits it..but she should completely trust him when he says that he did not do it intentionally..look at the contradiction here!!!

She should help him overcome with his regret, pain guilt and together they should fight it out…

No matter what he does she should be with him because he can’t survive without her…so it’s Him only Him..what about her dignity honor and self respect...

So basically she should always be the provider no matter what she goes through, even though, she is the one who has been wronged, she is the one who has been constantly lied too, she is the one who got cheated, she is the one who has been subjected to rude behavior and neglect

My heart cried for her when she sought some solace & assurance from him after all the anxiety she went through and what she got, he not only failed to reassure her but rudely jerked her off..to make her feel unwanted…he had his reasons but why should she suffer for his mistakes… Have the decency to tell her truth and let her decide..she survives or dies that’s her call instead he is putting her through hell for the sins he committed, justice delayed is justice denied and Raghav is denying her justice for his own selfish reasons.

We will still expect compassion from the victim while we show her none yes, because we love the offender more than her..that’s the sad truth…

You don’t seem to understand what people are trying to say

they’re saying that it’s OKAY for her to understand Raghav’s POV, not that she HAS to

if she chooses to forgive raghav or help him file a case of sexual harassment or smth, then that’s HER decision

we’re not saying she HAS to

In real life, Pallavi would get to choose what she wants to do moving forward, that can be leaving raghav OR choosing to stay with him

if she chooses to stay with him despite being hurt ITS HER DECISION, you need to understand that we aren’t defending raghav

If someone thinks raghav is innocent then that’s their opinion, but pallavi is at free will to decide what she wants, no one here is objecting to that

We’re saying that somewhere he might be innocent in what happened that night, and if Pallavi feels the same way she might help him

instead of leaving him

after all he’s the person SHE loves, it’s not about him it’s about HER and what her HEART wants

if she chooses to forgive him for spending a night with his ex and lying to his wife then THATS HER DECISION

no one is saying she has to do that, she is free to think what she wants

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@Bold tell me about it.. he has already indulged in so much for which he needs to be held accountable..but tons of justification they come up with to negate his problematic behavior is mind boggling…i am okay with it too ..what disturbs me to the core is when they come up with unreasonable expectations from her to make him look better & comfortable…

She should still stay with him even after knowing about infidelity…

She should not trust that he slept with a another woman even if he admits it..but she should completely trust him when he says that he did not do it intentionally..look at the contradiction here!!!

She should help him overcome with his regret, pain guilt and together they should fight it out…

No matter what he does she should be with him because he can’t survive without her…so it’s Him only Him..what about her dignity honor and self respect...

So basically she should always be the provider no matter what she goes through, even though, she is the one who has been wronged, she is the one who has been constantly lied too, she is the one who got cheated, she is the one who has been subjected to rude behavior and neglect

My heart cried for her when she sought some solace & assurance from him after all the anxiety she went through and what she got, he not only failed to reassure her but rudely jerked her off..to make her feel unwanted…he had his reasons but why should she suffer for his mistakes… Have the decency to tell her truth and let her decide..she survives or dies that’s her call instead he is putting her through hell for the sins he committed, justice delayed is justice denied and Raghav is denying her justice for his own selfish reasons.

We will still expect compassion from the victim while we show her none yes, because we love the offender more than her..that’s the sad truth…

No one is asking her to sacrifice her self respect and stay with him if she doesn't want to. It's her choice how she wants to proceed and we respect her right to make whatever decision she wants to.

No one is saying that his lying or hiding is acceptable and that it should continue. We know his reason for doing it but that doesn't make it right.

So when he lied to her about running Mandaar down with his car, were you fine with her not believing him even though he kept saying it was his doing? If so, then what's different in this case?

When Mandaar took Pallavi to the room and locked the door, she was not even conscious but she held his hand to stop him and was talking to him thinking it was Raghav. Mandaar let her continue that. Raghav saw it with his own eyes. Did he start believing that she was being disloyal? No. Rather, he started fighting with Mandaar because he knew Mandaar was at fault. Would you call Raghav the victim in that situation? Did he not try to point out to Pallavi where she was going wrong in terms of priority, but he said nothing about her fidelity in the marriage whatsoever because he knew she'd never cheat on him with her blast from the past Mandaar now in her present, compounded by emotional blackmailing from the Ds that made her feel compelled to help them and stay at D-house.

What Mandaar did was criminal and wrong. It wasn't Pallavi's fault at all. She was naive because she had a good impression of him before so she never suspected him of being such a creep. Being naive is not a crime and she did not commit a crime against Raghav or their marriage when she was in that state in the room. She did it unknowingly.

There's a clear parallel here. Only difference is Raghav saw that whereas here Pallavi didn't.

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV

You don’t seem to understand what people are trying to say

they’re saying that it’s OKAY for her to understand Raghav’s POV, not that she HAS to

if she chooses to forgive raghav or help him file a case of sexual harassment or smth, then that’s HER decision

we’re not saying she HAS to

In real life, Pallavi would get to choose what she wants to do moving forward, that can be leaving raghav OR choosing to stay with him

if she chooses to stay with him despite being hurt ITS HER DECISION, you need to understand that we aren’t defending raghav

If someone thinks raghav is innocent then that’s their opinion, but pallavi is at free will to decide what she wants, no one here is objecting to that

We’re saying that somewhere he might be innocent in what happened that night, and if Pallavi feels the same way she might help him

instead of leaving him

after all he’s the person SHE loves, it’s not about him it’s about HER and what her HEART wants

if she chooses to forgive him for spending a night with his ex and lying to his wife then THATS HER DECISION

no one is saying she has to do that, she is free to think what she wants

Thank you Divya. That's the point, exactly. We are all talking about her reaction and next steps.

She can do whatever she thinks is best in this situation, her life her choice. It doesn't matter what we want, but what she feels most at ease with for her own happiness and dignity.

If we dictate that she abandon him as the only right course of action then we are imposing our views on her. Abandonment is surely one option and staying by him is another. Her call at the end of day and she should be empowered to make whatever decision she thinks is right for her and for them.