Should such shows be allowed for mass consumption? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Tapdance

I personally have this opinion that TV needs way more censorship than OTT. But somehow the later is the primary target at this point in time in our country.

Right now, all the attention is on streaming platforms and free apps which somehow have a niche audience. That audience as per the norms specified in most apps/streaming channels have to be above 18, which one assumes they are considering parents to be responsible enough to handle children's viewership content atleast till they are 15/16. At these ages one assumes that a person starts associating oneself with a certain type of content and disassociates themself with some others. These platforms are a good space for unique content & have some of the best writing/Stories/screenplays/acting and directions & are precisely picking up because a large section of the audience do not want to watch the regressive content on TV at all and has stayed away. Most of my friends are in the 25-30 age bracket and we don't watch TV as such for any serials, some watch reality shows or sports or news or music, entire generations have moved on to OTT because you get the opportunity to watch what you want to watch and also manage your time and energies. Censorship here for some reason is more important than TV for the Censor Bureau and it is beyond me why these things work like this. Somewhere, the subtle indication starts that when art starts taking liberties to grow closer to truth, many institutions stand shaken & so the power dynamics continue.

I don't know about everyone here but Ghum is the first ITV show I have watched/come back to IF for after 7/8 odd years and the gap was there precisely because of the type of content served on TV and absolute disregard for social messages. Plus many of these shows have you emotionally invested. The last show I adored also I quit beyond a point, it was too much for me and I was happier reading good FF's on the forum. I think this platform is majorly not built for sensitive audiences, their mindset no matter they say is to serve strong drama and get good TRP's and that is the only parameter for major success.

Very few shows dare to keep content as they market it (every promo somehow markets a progressive story in the beginning and is written to back it the first few months) but somehow these stories from what I have understood do not make a mark on the TRP audience, who stand as the deciders for TV shows working. Had Ghum been a limited series on OTT I'm pretty sure we would have been served very different and progressive content.

Coming back to the question: No, any show marketing abuse openly in the name of love needs to send the other end of the social message that it is not correct, redemption needs to happen not only through words but also through actions of the abuser, deep regret and understanding of how fundamentally wrong they went being a member of IPS cadre that they project. Forget the cadre, any human being wanting normal Love and marriage with the other person needs a long redemption arc. Without this, they are just serving toxicity and justifying abuse.

Agree. It should be shows that are consumed by majority as well as mainstream movies i.e bollywood whose content should be the first to be kept under the radar.

@bold Agree. It's not as if shows have not done it. In the child bride show, even positive characters indulged in the social evil - but the practice was established as harmful, characters were deeply regretful of their action.

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

Sometimes it’s triggering on so many levels.

I called out Vankar in his insta account for promoting domestic abuse in prime time tv show and he blocked me 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄😡

I mean absolutely zero social responsibility for the ph and the channel 🤬

Kuch bhi chaltha hai to make money.

Indian tv viewers are not that evolved that they can separate reel from real. In respect to itv when the actors go out in public they are recognised from their character name not by the real name in 80% of the itv audience.

Imagine the influence these guys have on the rural India 😏

I think we can only vent and get angry. These guys are not going to change or realise the damage they do in the society as long as they get trp 😒

@bold: your siggy: #karma needs to hit Vankar need to be manifested...

What if ALL production houses and serials say, "We create drama and we make sure we say this is a work of fiction."

We all made a hue and cry over locking up incident and sent petitions. I am sure that was not even read, forget being considered. In so many shows, negative leads are slapped. Isn't that celebrated? Majority viewers are satisfied. Why? Isn't that abuse too? Who decides censorship?

Scenes like these are incorporated assuming audience knows the difference between right and wrong. Majority, if not all. Who are channels and PH to patronise?

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

Sometimes it’s triggering on so many levels.

I called out Vankar in his insta account for promoting domestic abuse in prime time tv show and he blocked me 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄😡

I mean absolutely zero social responsibility for the ph and the channel 🤬

Kuch bhi chaltha hai to make money.

Indian tv viewers are not that evolved that they can separate reel from real. In respect to itv when the actors go out in public they are recognised from their character name not by the real name in 80% of the itv audience.

Imagine the influence these guys have on the rural India 😏

I think we can only vent and get angry. These guys are not going to change or realise the damage they do in the society as long as they get trp 😒

Wouldn't it have been a beautiful journey where Sai ,Virat ,Pakhi & Sammy find their happiness with each other

Sai to realise how is it to live with so much relationships & family.Family teaching her values .Loving her ,guiding & she becoming a reputed doctor with the strength the family gives.She becoming financially independent & having a healthy relationship with Virat.

Virat & Pakhi having lost out on each other go through a journey of love with their partners .A little resistance from them but gradually realizing that you gotta move on

Sammy having another friend & confidant in his wife since he doesn't say much but it's his eyes that speaks

Each taking a journey of their own & giving some positivity.

The standards they have set are too low.

You cringe seeing the fake loving bond of Kaku and Devi, after years of torture and abuse that was inflicted on Devi by Trimurti, for which no redemption was shown.

You somewhere feel happy when Devi remembers that her aai was 'Gandi', thinking that atleast makers remember what they had shown once and did not forget it in their project 'whitewash'.

Originally posted by: Tapdance

I personally have this opinion that TV needs way more censorship than OTT. But somehow the later is the primary target at this point in time in our country.

Right now, all the attention is on streaming platforms and free apps which somehow have a niche audience. That audience as per the norms specified in most apps/streaming channels have to be above 18, which one assumes they are considering parents to be responsible enough to handle children's viewership content atleast till they are 15/16. At these ages one assumes that a person starts associating oneself with a certain type of content and disassociates themself with some others. These platforms are a good space for unique content & have some of the best writing/Stories/screenplays/acting and directions & are precisely picking up because a large section of the audience do not want to watch the regressive content on TV at all and has stayed away. Most of my friends are in the 25-30 age bracket and we don't watch TV as such for any serials, some watch reality shows or sports or news or music, entire generations have moved on to OTT because you get the opportunity to watch what you want to watch and also manage your time and energies. Censorship here for some reason is more important than TV for the Censor Bureau and it is beyond me why these things work like this. Somewhere, the subtle indication starts that when art starts taking liberties to grow closer to truth, many institutions stand shaken & so the power dynamics continue.

I don't know about everyone here but Ghum is the first ITV show I have watched/come back to IF for after 7/8 odd years and the gap was there precisely because of the type of content served on TV and absolute disregard for social messages. Plus many of these shows have you emotionally invested. The last show I adored also I quit beyond a point, it was too much for me and I was happier reading good FF's on the forum. I think this platform is majorly not built for sensitive audiences, their mindset no matter they say is to serve strong drama and get good TRP's and that is the only parameter for major success.

Very few shows dare to keep content as they market it (every promo somehow markets a progressive story in the beginning and is written to back it the first few months) but somehow these stories from what I have understood do not make a mark on the TRP audience, who stand as the deciders for TV shows working. Had Ghum been a limited series on OTT I'm pretty sure we would have been served very different and progressive content.

Coming back to the question: No, any show marketing abuse openly in the name of love needs to send the other end of the social message that it is not correct, redemption needs to happen not only through words but also through actions of the abuser, deep regret and understanding of how fundamentally wrong they went being a member of IPS cadre that they project. Forget the cadre, any human being wanting normal Love and marriage with the other person needs a long redemption arc. Without this, they are just serving toxicity and justifying abuse.

Yes they may not explicitly promoting domestic abuse in the name love but certainly they are entertaining the idea of possessiveness in a relationship...To bring the drama elements they have crossed the line without getting censored.. On the other hand those actions were performed by a public servant..Agree proper redemption is needed if they are trying to establish love ..without redemption and realisation there is not point staying with him..

Teenage girls are very sensitive they mostly prefer attention and this is what sai longing.. Post her accident she is shocked, terrified with the idea that she practically has no one to look after her.. She is looking for her Aaba in Virat.. It's not a romantic feelings.. Because he is the one who took care of her post kj's death..Unfortunately She is way too much attached to him because even for the namesake he is the only one she has as her family..

We all talk about redemption and justice, coming to Ghum, would love to know what redemption everyone wants for...

Virat

Kaku and co.

Patralekha

Netra

Absolutely great that you wrote this post. At the very least, if anybody from the PH or channel reads, they will know what a certain section of the audience thinks.

I said..very least because that's all will happen. They are raking in the moolah through this show. And as long as they are, everything goes. Our audience is also lapping it up. Earlier we used to have prominent personalities call out such misdemeanors. Our voices online don't count.

In fact I feel being on top of the heap is the ideal time to spend one or two episodes on showing the audience, the protagonist realising his mistake of locking her up, thinking he has the right to.

Because its the lack of regret, lack of comprehension for this behaviour that is more triggering. That the hero just doesn't understand.

This is my concern from start. The toxicity which this show has. We here in forum actually could discuss about right and wrongs. But many viewers on TV accept the way they are showing. I just scroll through the insta fan pages of this show and I really feel bad that there too people support Virat for everything just because he is a ML. Ok this is something different point I understand, but as a genuine viewer is it compulsion on us to accept the relationship shown between ML and FL just because they are leads.?

The show always promotes this toxicity. It shows how Sai is totally dependent on Virat and how he treats her in the name of love.? And how Mrs Samrat could do anything in the name of her love.??

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

What if ALL production houses and serials say, "We create drama and we make sure we say this is a work of fiction."

We all made a hue and cry over locking up incident and sent petitions. I am sure that was not even read, forget being considered. In so many shows, negative leads are slapped. Isn't that celebrated? Majority viewers are satisfied. Why? Isn't that abuse too? Who decides censorship?

Scenes like these are incorporated assuming audience knows the difference between right and wrong. Majority, if not all. Who are channels and PH to patronise?

See disclaimers are useless. Every cigarette packet has disclaimer .

People dont know the difference between right and wrong, that is the problem na. Aisa hota to there will not be any social evil.

Channels are driven by market - as long as people see crap, they will dish out crap. If we point at CV, he will point at PH, PH will point at channel, channel will cite competition. There is no end. IF, however, the BCCC sets strict guidelines, then all channels will be bound by it and this competition for regressive content will stop.