The Courtroom Drama begins - Page 12

I get that they don't have proof about Malini doing these actual acts, but they do have proof of INTENT na? KC himself is a witness in this situation cuz M has confessed her motives to him since a while now in a CLEAR CUT manner....heck, she just did it last night again. Then Imlie ko bhi kiye huye hain apne motives confess so many times😆.....so why don't either of them atleast give the statement that Malini has stated her intent to them of wanting to haasil karo Adi?

Yehi problem hai mujhe KC se....he knows Malini's entire truth but direct statement bhi nahin deta and doesn't even bother extracting it out in court....toh phir kya faayda?😆

Imlie ka chalo I will still give it to her that she has atleast tried to state what she knows....even if she is also missing that critical piece with telling everyone that Malini herself has told her motives to her😆.....but Imlie ko toh waise hi no one believes in that house so I can understand why she doesn't want to say more.....lol

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Behen aap samjhe nahin😛......The "logic" is that Imlie merely BREATHING in T house = her having "interfered" in AM marriage and "lured" Adi away🤣.

Man, this takes me back to that post of mine from one time ki why was Adi SO defensive and SO terrified of Imlie's mere presence around him....itna over-react karta tha and always trying to scare her into staying away from him😆.....and I used to wonder ki kis baat se itna darta hai from this chit of a girl? LOL baad mein samajh aaya ki Imaliya itni powerful hai apparently that her mere PRESENCE is enough to make someone fall hopelessly in love with her😆.

But jokes apart, in this case it's pretty obvious that people have watched a whole other imaginary show in their heads😆.....it's that need to look for scapegoats for why supposedly "sundar/susheel" Malini ki shaadi toot gayi.....lol toh blame the poor girl who literally lived like a maid in her own sasuraal and gave up all her rights.....lol the girl who literally tried to remove herself from most situations but it was ADI who went after her all the time.....mehendi epis mein kahaan kiya Imlie ne interfere? LOL she was keeping herself away only - yeh Adi hi gaya uske peechhe out of "fikar" at that time as he called it....cuz well DESTINY😛. And jin logon se destiny bardaasht nahin hoti, usko phir cheap terms se slander karte hain but that doesn't change the truth of how Adilie evolved.

The only "meddling" Imlie ever did was to try and patch up AM during their pathetic fights😆.....Imlie na hoti toh yeh toh first argument ke baad hi khatam ho gaye hote.....her friggin garam tawaa poem is the reason their marriage survived even one argument😆....aur phir bhi ilzaam is bechaari par hi....lol

Baaki uski personality mein hi aisa NOOR hai that it draws people in, toh how is it her fault? She is simply herself always....not going out of her way to impose herself on anyone or tear anyone down like so called golden Didi🤪.

Oh so these are the same socially progressive woke people who wanted an 18 yr old girl who had been forced to marry against her wish, who had no money, no support system in a big city like Delhi, who had never even stepped out of her own village, no emotional support as well to demand her wifey rights from the man who also had been forced to marry her & who had made it clear that he doesn't consider her his wife or to not stay in the T house because self respect is more important than basic day to day survival in a new place with no resources😛.

But their modern, progressive, educated, employed & earning Didi has no other option but to always ghum phirke stay in T house even when she had a fight with her parents & had been invited to stay in T house as courtesy by the same cheater log who cheated her😭🤣. Eyes se water beh gaya remembering Didi's struggle😭😂😂😂. I cannot forget Adi's disbelief that Didi actually came to stay in T house that time🤣.

Concurred with you that it is the same elitist behaviour that the makers are showing in the show as well with the Ts & Loservedis being unable to believe that Adi would choose gaon ki Imlie over their golden Didi😵. Shallowness has no borders I guess😆.

Imlie as a personality is so dynamic that people get enthralled by her. Even Adi himself had such a good friendly rapport with her before the forced marriage & we all know that he is not a person who connects to people instantly. The most important quality that I love about Imlie is that she hardly ever imposes her opinion on others. Only in case of Adi did she try to do that by trying to force him to fulfill his responsibilities as Didi's husband out of her own guilt. Otherwise she is cool if people do not prescribe to her own thinking & is ready to even accept if she is wrong. This honesty in her personality is the biggest draw for Adi who can be himself without any compunctions when he is with her.

Didi has always been the pampered princess who could never share the attention. Therefore it is no wonder she is jealous of Imlie irrespective of even Adi's involvement as well. That is why Didi hardly has any friends. She uses friendship as a tool to manipulate. She did it with Adi for so long & tried to do the same with KC & Imlie also. If Didi was really a nice person as she was introduced as then she would at least have 1 genuine friend. But she has no people in her life accept those who now down to her wishes. Imlie has always been shown to have friends, if for namesake only, be it the girls & guys of her village or her friends in college who showed up to support her cause.

Originally posted by: Lodestar

Didi fans are super happy though because the guy praised their Didi🤣. Ho jaye khush woh bhi, actual serial main toh vamp hi hain since the start😆. And frankly I don't get the hoopla around Imlie being 18 & Adi being significantly older than her. In whatever circumstances they got married, it doesn't mean that they cannot fall in love with each other. Also their relationship progression has been shown tastefully.

I guess to each their own but I would rather trust the opinion of people who actually watch the show & have reasonable arguments for or against the characters. Villifying someone to seem woke is the routine now, not something extraordinary😆.

It’s because the account is credible and very popular with the guy getting millions mein views at times too. Didi fans think it’s a lottery, the dying love for didi revived because all their viewpoints will be valid with the ‘woke’ world accepting them, cause soch is as superficial as didi’s. No matter how credible your account on social media is. Anybody who praises didi automatically loses all credibility. Because then I can say with 100% certainty 10-12 episode hi dekhe honge, surface x2 level viewing 😆

They can gloat and be happy about how they are part of the ‘woke’ world (sigh, I am beginning to think social media may also be cutting down on the population’s IQ levels) Show mein toh phir bhi didi ki sirf chop hogi 😆

It’s sad though, how reductionist and clout based these reviews have gotten, with that guy’s reach he could have done a little research and brought light to a serious problem in the itv world right now - how much vitriol and bile people carry in honour of supposed ‘niceness’ with not much space for female leads to be a little messy or really any lead to not be pakke saints. Worse than that, ml’s are allowed to manhandle and sl*tshame the female characters but a character who makes a mistake otherwise having an intact core would be incarcerated for good. Plus something I’d really liked to have seen addressed would have been now normalised physical abuse in itv is, and how more unusual concepts are a bigger no no than abuse. Over the course of this show I have seen people say they’d prefer the former than have their husbands leave them.. that is the woke world’s progressive stance ? Well then I am pretty happy being regressive at least I have my own independency. Even the colourism, the hate the actors get, so much this channel could have brought to light. Not going to lie I had expected better with how reputable he was and how I had liked some of his reviews. But then, why expect research from a channel that went to watch with the intent to find faults for the fans who told him to.

It’s the itv doesn’t need much research cause it’s trash anyways default setting in everyone’s minds too. It’s sort of like a superiority complex thing, ‘ I am not an itv viewer I know how horrible it is thus my opinion holds more weight. I haven’t watched the whole show but the show is so trashy its fans must be too, thus my opinion holds more weight‘ mindset. And people fawn all over this, even if disagree won’t speak out of fear of public ostracisation 😆 to be accepted into this fold of the woke, even if they are regular viewers they’d tend to flock over to these people and agree with them because their opinions are seen more credible despite the fact the person, having watched only a few episodes, is stating their opinion against someone who has watched for months each and every episode.

I, personally, cannot give two hoots about it. One thing I can thank this show is for how it detached me from that fold of people and showed me exactly where the ‘woke’ stand. I have enough confidence in myself and the people I have been regularly watching the show with to know better on my own than to rely on the supposed ‘credibility’ of some account who watched a few episodes with the purpose being ‘looking down upon the oh so uneducated and trapped in the regressiveness of itv’ audience.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

It’s because the account is credible and very popular with the guy getting millions mein views at times too. Didi fans think it’s a lottery, the dying love for didi revived because all their viewpoints will be valid with the ‘woke’ world accepting them, cause soch is as superficial as didi’s. No matter how credible your account on social media is. Anybody who praises didi automatically loses all credibility. Because then I can say with 100% certainty 10-12 episode hi dekhe honge, surface x2 level viewing 😆

They can gloat and be happy about how they are part of the ‘woke’ world (sigh, I am beginning to think social media may also be cutting down on the population’s IQ levels) Show mein toh phir bhi didi ki sirf chop hogi 😆

It’s sad though, how reductionist and clout based these reviews have gotten, with that guy’s reach he could have done a little research and brought light to a serious problem in the itv world right now - how much vitriol and bile people carry in honour of supposed ‘niceness’ with not much space for female leads to be a little messy or really any lead to not be pakke saints. Worse than that, ml’s are allowed to manhandle and sl*tshame the female characters but a character who makes a mistake otherwise having an intact core would be incarcerated for good. Plus something I’d really liked to have seen addressed would have been now normalised physical abuse in itv is, and how more unusual concepts are a bigger no no than abuse. Over the course of this show I have seen people say they’d prefer the former than have their husbands leave them.. that is the woke world’s progressive stance ? Well then I am pretty happy being regressive at least I have my own independency. Even the colourism, the hate the actors get, so much this channel could have brought to light. Not going to lie I had expected better with how reputable he was and how I had liked some of his reviews. But then, why expect research from a channel that went to watch with the intent to find faults for the fans who told him to.

It’s the itv doesn’t need much research cause it’s trash anyways default setting in everyone’s minds too. It’s sort of like a superiority complex thing, ‘ I am not an itv viewer I know how horrible it is thus my opinion holds more weight. I haven’t watched the whole show but the show is so trashy its fans must be too, thus my opinion holds more weight‘ mindset. And people fawn all over this, even if disagree won’t speak out of fear of public ostracisation 😆 to be accepted into this fold of the woke, even if they are regular viewers they’d tend to flock over to these people and agree with them because their opinions are seen more credible despite the fact the person, having watched only a few episodes, is stating their opinion against someone who has watched for months each and every episode.

I, personally, cannot give two hoots about it. One thing I can thank this show is for how it detached me from that fold of people and showed me exactly where the ‘woke’ stand. I have enough confidence in myself and the people I have been regularly watching the show with to know better on my own than to rely on the supposed ‘credibility’ of some account who watched a few episodes with the purpose being ‘looking down upon the oh so uneducated and trapped in the regressiveness of itv’ audience.

Thank you so.muxh for saying this Spelano. I had the exact same reaction to the review. Not lying, I had watched the channel's reviews earlier and assumed that he will do enough due diligence, as I saw that many people has asked him to review Imlie as they felt it was trashy. I assumed the guy will watch and be able to acknowledge that despite everything we have a male lead who accepts his mistakes and is willing to pay the price over and over again. That he will point out how the show is addressing the fact that people like the T's can change their stance towards people just because of their standing in society and where they come from. How like you mentioned that the lead of the show is a regular girl who looks and sounds like she was from a village till date - despite moving to the city at the start of the show and going to college as well. She is shown as improving her language and adjusting to the city, yet not losing her identity and inner essence of what made her Imlie. All the focus was rather only on were the show is apparently going "wrong" rather than atleast highlight what they're getting right. The worst was him echoing M fans by saying she was made negative to glorify the leads - telling me that he definitely has not seen all the episodes of the show from the start and just seen clips. I was stunned he did not even care to comment on the Dil Se sequence - which is one of the best shot sequences in a long time anywhere and which got appreciation everywhere, telling me that either he did not watch it, or watched stuff with the sole reason to poke holes rather than give an unbiased view.

That to me just wiped out all his credibility when I saw that no matter how hard we try, we will not be able to fight this mentality of society that wants to hold people like ADI and Imlie responsible for Malini's actions even today. While I agree they hid a very big truth from her, but they themselves have also suffered because of it in multiple ways. People saying that Adi has not been held accountable for his actions are coolly willing to disregard him legit getting buried alive to prove to his wife's family that he loves her more than his life. They forget how he repeatedly asked Malini if ahe was fine and even of ahe loved him - we don't know what he would have done with the information, but it was still Malini's choice to lie - that has to be ignored because Adi cheated Malini with whom he was in a relationship for 7+ years and fell in love with Imlie, but unfortunately realised this only after marrying Malini.

I finally understood that this mentality is not going to change and rather than expecting it to do so, it is easier to share views on the show with like minded people who atleast have the emotional intelligence to see things in totality rather than judge only based in half information.

Sorry for hijacking your thread AY, but I really wanted to express my thoughts on this based on the posts from Spelano and Lodestar.

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

The worst was him echoing M fans by saying she was made negative to glorify the leads - telling me that he definitely has not seen all the episodes of the show from the start and just seen clips. I was stunned he did not even care to comment on the Dil Se sequence - which is one of the best shot sequences in a long time anywhere and which got appreciation everywhere, telling me that either he did not watch it, or watched stuff with the sole reason to poke holes rather than give an unbiased view.

I finally understood that this mentality is not going to change and rather than expecting it to do so, it is easier to share views on the show with like minded people who atleast have the emotional intelligence to see things in totality rather than judge only based in half information.

Sorry for hijacking your thread AY, but I really wanted to express my thoughts on this based on the posts from Spelano and Lodestar.

Lol, so yeh sugar ka empty dabba bara positive and progressive thi before all this? 😆 Didn’t pull up on her husband once after he told her the truth but village girls ko acha khaasa sunaya, didn’t talk to her mum once after finding out about her dad’s cheating instead forgave him in seconds hi.

I will never get how a show accepted by the ground audience and having a good online trp will need to use a third angle who has never been able to retain audience as a crutch to ‘justify’ leads for whom the show was watched. In fact adi imlie are her crutches their story being bent for her so she can have some relevance in the story still since her whole character turned a snoozefest and lost most of its scope with her fake mahanta, she is inserted anywhere and everywhere to make it seem ab bhi relevant hai when the people who do watch give no care about her lol.

People falling all over themselves for this half baked opinion is just cause... I think pseudo intellectualism is very easy to fall for when you listen to somebody who at least gives you the impression that they are highly intelligent and have thought these things out and they also happen to coincide with your preconceived notions. It’s very compelling to be told that their views are just ‘common sense’ and ‘facts and logic’. It’s quiet possibly the easiest way to compel someone to listen to you, it doesn’t require any effort on one’s end to be attentive to what they are saying.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

Lol, so yeh sugar ka empty dabba bara positive and progressive thi before all this? 😆 Didn’t pull up on her husband once after he told her the truth but village girls ko acha khaasa sunaya, didn’t talk to her mum once after finding out about her dad’s cheating instead forgave him in seconds hi.

I will never get how a show accepted by the ground audience and having a good online trp will need to use a third angle who has never been able to retain audience as a crutch to ‘justify’ leads for whom the show was watched. In fact adi imlie are her crutches their story being bent for her so she can have some relevance in the story still since her whole character turned a snoozefest and lost most of its scope with her fake mahanta, she is inserted anywhere and everywhere to make it seem ab bhi relevant hai when the people who do watch give no care about her lol.

People falling all over themselves for this half baked opinion is just cause... I think pseudo intellectualism is very easy to fall for when you listen to somebody who at least gives you the impression that they are highly intelligent and have thought these things out and they also happen to coincide with your preconceived notions. It’s very compelling to be told that their views are just ‘common sense’ and ‘facts and logic’. It’s quiet possibly the easiest way to compel someone to listen to you, it doesn’t require any effort on one’s end to be attentive to what they are saying.

@bold - loved ur name for her - sugar ka empty dabba🤣.

But so true. Pseudo intellectualism is the easiest way to convince people that what you are talking is sensible and we'll researched. That was what was used by the alternate stan to justify their character and her actions being right, while promptly ignoring the red flags thrown up throughout the show.

See my issue is that the sensible ones seeing the show have always known that Malini has a rotten core, though she covered it up brilliantly with her sweet demeanor. That was cleanly visible everytime Adi ke muh se uske ya uske kaam ke alawa kisi aur ki baat nikalti thi. That subtle change in her expressions when she would feel she is not his first priority was always clearly visible for anyone who wanted to see it. After her slow unraveling from the time of the PD2 trip till the recent sautan drama has been a progression in her characterization in the opposite direction. She was not made a villian overnight - only she has allowed herself to embrace her rotten core and discard the shiny and pseudo sweet exterior to show her true face. Baaki qualities aur tendencies toh day one se hai, bas abhi bahar aa rahi hai.

Originally posted by: Lodestar

Imlie as a personality is so dynamic that people get enthralled by her. Even Adi himself had such a good friendly rapport with her before the forced marriage & we all know that he is not a person who connects to people instantly. The most important quality that I love about Imlie is that she hardly ever imposes her opinion on others. Only in case of Adi did she try to do that by trying to force him to fulfill his responsibilities as Didi's husband out of her own guilt. Otherwise she is cool if people do not prescribe to her own thinking & is ready to even accept if she is wrong. This honesty in her personality is the biggest draw for Adi who can be himself without any compunctions when he is with her.

Didi has always been the pampered princess who could never share the attention. Therefore it is no wonder she is jealous of Imlie irrespective of even Adi's involvement as well. That is why Didi hardly has any friends. She uses friendship as a tool to manipulate. She did it with Adi for so long & tried to do the same with KC & Imlie also. If Didi was really a nice person as she was introduced as then she would at least have 1 genuine friend. But she has no people in her life accept those who now down to her wishes. Imlie has always been shown to have friends, if for namesake only, be it the girls & guys of her village or her friends in college who showed up to support her cause.

That is the underlying issue basically......Didi just cannot digest how Adi could fall for a dynamic PERSONALITY like Imlie over everything else. Didi ki khud ki toh koi personality nahin hai....she's a vapid doll😆.....that is why it grates on her endlessly that all her superficial dikhaave still left her empty handed😆.

She tries a million things to put on an image to gain attention.....but Imlie still easily wins attention simply by being herself.....because she is genuine and that is why that quality sparkles through. And Malini se yeh digest nahin ho raha that Adi chose GENUINENESS over her DIKHAAVE😆. She secretly knows somewhere inside that Imlie has this winning personality because she is REAL....and that is what connects with any genuine/pure heart. Yeh sab Malini ke khud ke shortcomings hain that she can't digest.....jo khud mein nahin hai, she resents that Imlie has it so she tries to pull her down in other ways. Cuz personality toh manufacture ya buy nahin kar sakte na? lol everything else she can create artificially except a personality.....lol and Imlie has a naturally charming personality that draws people in. She's not trying to score points but still easily manages to win people over. That's a natural quality, not manufactured. And Malini only understands manufactured things.

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

After her slow unraveling from the time of the PD2 trip till the recent sautan drama has been a progression in her characterization in the opposite direction. She was not made a villian overnight - only she has allowed herself to embrace her rotten core and discard the shiny and pseudo sweet exterior to show her true face. Baaki qualities aur tendencies toh day one se hai, bas abhi bahar aa rahi hai.

I think that’s on the writers too. They overestimated. People here can only take clear distinctions between characters and plus it is an itv show nobody is going to read characters they just watch and move on (I know her character is pretty visibly rotten even in ainvayi timepass consuming but you’d actually have to watch lol). Remember the time the Ts praised imlie watching her on tv in the press conference? And how her face went bad for a few seconds ? She went ultra sugary straight again ofcourse, and who would remember those few seconds in comparison to the hours of fakery. Maybe they needed to do the grey better idk .. maybe then the storylines added and all for these callouts against the mentalities ke bajaye different hota kuch cause M ki itni badi army nahi hoti .. I am not complaining I am just .. kinda tired of M’s face. Just horribly fed up of that character.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

She secretly knows somewhere inside that Imlie has this winning personality because she is REAL....and that is what connects with any genuine/pure heart. Yeh sab Malini ke khud ke shortcomings hain that she can't digest.....jo khud mein nahin hai, she resents that Imlie has it so she tries to pull her down in other ways. Cuz personality toh manufacture ya buy nahin kar sakte na?

Yeah. She has always reflected her own actions upon imlie too. Whatever she does blaming it onto imlie. Be it that time adi was sick claiming imlie was trying to be fake mahaan or now blaming her failed marriage onto imlie alone. Making it easier for herself.. to believe how she is much better, how all these flaws in her are actually imlie’s thus imlie is the undeserving one.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

It’s because the account is credible and very popular with the guy getting millions mein views at times too. Didi fans think it’s a lottery, the dying love for didi revived because all their viewpoints will be valid with the ‘woke’ world accepting them, cause soch is as superficial as didi’s. No matter how credible your account on social media is. Anybody who praises didi automatically loses all credibility. Because then I can say with 100% certainty 10-12 episode hi dekhe honge, surface x2 level viewing 😆

Fact is, Imlie is too complicated a storyline to condense into a satire video anyways😆.....people who are looking to do click-bait type content will obviously only hit the superficial notes and think that's the sum of it....enough to get a buzz and then milk the attention - mission accomplished since people have hyped up this lame video all day today it seems😆.

How do you even begin to summarize the layers of emotional conflict that Adi-Imlie went through together? It's so much easier to find the one sari lehraati hui "bahu looking" character and build a whole victim pitch around her rather than call out her entitled and badtameez personality for what it is😆......

As it is, most of these YT troll waale only watch stray clips of ITV shows to troll since aur bhi general image hai of ITV only doing cliched/superficial storylines.....lol toh same format mein Imlie ko ghusaane ke liye yehi sab milega na phir😆......kaun karega mehnat of actually watching the epis to understand the nuances of why these characters are in the unusual situation they are in.😆

But koi baat nahin, I guess is chindi video se un logon ke gham bhar rahe hain who aren't being able to digest Didi ka asli roop being shown explicitly in the story😆, so kahin toh gham dubaane hi padenge na imaginary manufactured reality mein just like Didi herself😆.