Do you think Hrithik and Kangana had an affair? - Page 5

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

I don't remember hating on him. Do you have trouble telling the difference between hate and criticism ?

As for Kangana, I'm not sure why you're telling me that because I'm not looking for proof that she's a liar , I know she is...everyone does. Just like everyone knows she'd do anything for publicity.

"plays the victim"

"obsessed with his image"

"privileged male superstar"

Yeah, the hate is very clear. Everyone is entitled not to like anyone else on the planet. That doesn't mean the target of your hatred deserves to be stalked and harassed and publicly humiliated. Nor does unrequited obsession mean the target of your crazy obsession deserves to be stalked and harassed and publicly humiliated.

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

I don't remember hating on him. Do you have trouble telling the difference between hate and criticism ?

As for Kangana, I'm not sure why you're telling me that because I'm not looking for proof that she's a liar , I know she is...everyone does. Just like everyone knows she'd do anything for publicity.

Then whats the whole point of your long posts. Which side you are on? 😆

Originally posted by: Nova19

Condescending? Well maybe. It’s hard not to be in this situation.

Dubious studies? No. The controversy was that he dared to talk about the effects of alcohol and college culture on a probably black out drunk rapist (who he called a rapist) and address access to guns increasing suicides in a gun obsessed American culture. The studies on the ability to detect lies are from respected scientists independent of his book. If you want to discredit the studies that specifically say nervousness and defensiveness are “read” as lying but NOT reliable indicators of lying and confidence and warmth are “read” as truthful but NOT reliable indicators of truth then sorry Gladwell had nothing to do with them.

Is your official position that you aren’t obligated to believe Kangana never slept with Imran Khan until it’s proven they didn’t? Why do you have any opinion at all on whether Kangana and Hrithik slept together? Because Kangana told people they did. Because Kangana planted blinds and later gave interviews implying they did. Someone you know to be a liar, someone you know lied about this “relationship” put an idea in your head that you cannot accept isn’t true. Well okay, what possible argument can be made to that?


I didn’t realize I was talking “to you” until you let me know what I wrote spoke to you. So now I’m speaking directly.

If you read what I wrote ,and talked about it while dissing people with the same views I'm going to assume you were in fact speaking about me even though not to me.

Yes my official position is that I'm not obligated to believe anything in the absence of proof just because somebody wrote a book on how people detect lies. Kangana did not plant anything in my head. Do you like imagining everyone but you is gullible ? I very clearly said why I believe what I believe but you seem to be evading that and talking about everything else.

You're capable of understanding Gladwell's statement about rape( which in one way or the other absolves the rapist of responsibility by saying alcohol got in the way) according to the context but here for some reason ,for you , it's a black and white issue of liking or disliking Hrithik.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

You clearly don't understand the difference between laymen and celebrities. ... But ofcourse with crazy people you never know, they could harm you physically which makes it all the more necessary for you to go to the cops IF you're worried in that sense.

Once again you're conflating 2 diff things. Indian laws do not think men can be stalked by women. You're taking cubercrime and mixing it up with sexual harassment laws and asking why HR couldn't have gone to the cops?

How is this diff in anyway from asking why a woman didn't go to the cops at the first sign of trouble in a workplace? You 1st hope it goes away. Then you don't want to rock the boat and imagine if you keep away it won't be a problem. you delay things until it gets to be too much. This is classic behavior described in any textbook.

Yes their relationship was professional but I was talking about him saying she was shy and there weren't any conversations between them when minutes ago he had said something about having conversations with her.

Obviously, they worked together. Unless he has dementia, he would've had to talk with her. Most people would interpret what he said as no conversations to mean no conversations of a deeper kind. Jeez, man. Even in a court of law, it would be allowed. Unless of course, the person hearing is lookign for a reason ti disbelieve.

He had the resources to find out . Once again, this is as ridiculous as saying, so why did she wear a short skirt? Why didn't she go out with a male companion? No one thinks there will be a problem until there is one. And when it starts becoming clear, you still hope it will go away.

but I will not compare it to the stalking ordinary women face on the streets. Get real. Yes, stalking and harassment are a problem for the person at the receiving end. Their horror is not erased by someone else's horror. Which is exactly what you're doing.

acknowledging the privilege a male superstar has, compared to ordinary victims of harassment is not the same as saying prostitutes can't be raped. It 100% is the same. So he put himself out in the public eye. So he is rich. So he is a man. So let him get harassed. Exactly the same attitude.

Saying that he should have blocked her emails sooner ,and that it's hard to believe he couldn't find out how to do it is NOT the same as saying "She shouldn't have worn a short skirt" about a rape victim . Are you out of your mind? Are you seriously comparing the rape of a woman to a bunch of emails sent to Hrithik Roshan? Sorry , I can't engage with you anymore. You can assume whatever you want to. 👍.

Originally posted by: PardesiBabu

Then whats the whole point of your long posts. Which side you are on? 😆

If you didn't get the point after reading them ,they were not meant for you :)

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

If you didn't get the point after reading them ,they were not meant for you :)

You say you don't believe Kangana but your posts are victim shaming. So that left me confused on whose side you really are.

Originally posted by: PardesiBabu

You say you don't believe Kangana but your posts are victim shaming. So that left me confused on whose side you really are.

Yeah if I don't believe Kangana I'm supposed to believe everything the other party says. Some solid logic. I did not shame him for receiving thousands of emails. I questioned him for saying he doesn't know the basics of email and had no way to find out. But you make a good case in his favour with your trouble to figure out what's going on .

You seem to mention the length of my posts a lot. Size must be a touchy subject.

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

Yeah if I don't believe Kangana I'm supposed to believe everything the other party says. Some solid logic. I did not shame him for receiving thousands of emails. I questioned him for saying he doesn't know the basics of email and had no way to find out. But you make a good case in his favour with your trouble to figure out what's going on .

You seem to mention the length of my posts a lot. Size must be a touchy subject.

Yes you should know. People tend to overcompensate their shortcomings.

Originally posted by: PardesiBabu

Yes you should know. People tend to overcompensate their shortcomings.

They do,don't they? That's exactly what I had been saying all this while. Thanks for laying out the short version .

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

They do,don't they? That's exactly what I had been saying all this while. Thanks for laying out the short version .

It is good you didn't get my point 😆