Feeling very disheartened for Pallavi, DT Note pge 23 - Page 8

Originally posted by: Kavita99

true. Since mrng i mostly saw pals bashing and whn some one nd me pointed out cvs so someone mentioned that character ko bol rhe h mtlb indirectly cvs ko hi bol rhe sort of. Pura acche se yaad ni h but esa likha tha kisine edt me.

I saw 4 topics where same thing was being repeated...

What to say, it's very easy to hide behind saying it's our POV or we were referring to Makers ..

But reality we know

Originally posted by: -abz-

Arnav Kushi? Where the male manhandles the female convinently? If that's romantic, then I'm sorry to say this show is not meant for illogical romance. They have been breaking the stereotypical cliches ever since the beginning and that's the reason why we are choosing to criticize the loopholes.

Nobody recognises anybody with touch that quickly. Antaryami nehi hai Pallavi. Sometimes even we fail to recognise our partner, friend or family members. For somebody who has been shaken by Mandaar touching Pallavi, she would flinch even to the touch of her closed ones. How dare we expect her to recognise Raghav like that? And she is in a state where she cannot think par the situation that she is trapped in. Why should she recognise? Raghav has all the mettle to fool her around to have fun but not say that he is Raghav, her husband?

Intimacy is not in touching or feeling the sparks in touches, sharing intense eye locks, hugging and kissing.

Intimacy is in giving emotinal security and understanding what the person is going through. Raghav has been quite a lot intimate for the past two episodes so much enough that Pallavi is shaken with groundless emotional support.

We see Pallavi Raghav the same way and that's why Raghav's simple action of not revealing his identity by crapping down her personal space is disappointing.

I'm not badmouthing Raghav here.

I genuinely love both Raghav and Pallavi.

I get equally mad when Pallavi does something out of here character. Raghav has been an understanding person. Watching him do this has disappointed me so much.

Coming to victim shaming.

All I got to say is whether she talked to him, whether she helped him, whether she tried to come close to him...the moment she says NO, it means NO.

She did not ask for it.

She does not deserve it.

She is not the one to be blamed.

She cannot be forced.

She cannot be expected to change for others.

She cannot be expected to recognise a person.

She cannot be blamed for the consequence of a situation that she isn't at fault!

She has all the rights to be shattered, triggered or emotionally down. And nobody has the rights to call her down. Period.

Originally posted by: Mysterie_girl

Thank you for this post!!

I get it what made you post this...some people are actually rejoicing and claiming that she deserves him only...anyways not going to ruin this

Just one day before he was standing like anything when Pallavi's saree caught fire and today he was all in showing rights mode...already she was aware of his psychotic behavior and now this

She was shocked the core about all this already and the particular scene gave her the full idea of till which extent this person can go and so is for Raghav (an eye-opener kinda)

They need to start working against him asap...they don't have time in hand

That's what it was all about

Blaming Pallavi in all this came out of nowhere...it's not she is asking for it or making advances or something...she was herself shocked on this and tried to stop the same as well

Thank you Shreya

This is what I was expecting to hear,

Uproar on Mandar how he is so despicable, so creepy...

No doubt of him being shady and involved in shady activities..

To raise questions over his decent looking facade

To think about how to make him suffer to the hell by both Raghav and Pallavi

Phew .. what did I see...

Isme bhi blame Pallavi

Pall needed to do something, even if she is scared to death ...

Kamse kam aaj toh chor dete ...

Originally posted by: Isamreen

Hey thank you so much ...

This was elaborate and all the things I wanted to say...

Even if she was coming out like that, the decency would suggest to avert your gaze or leave that place..

Blaming her for coming out like that is like saying molestation and harassment happens coz of girls appearance and clothes..

Makers needs to handle things like this sensitively and sensibly...

And ppl need to show some dignity and emphaty towards Pallavi' s Character ...

It's becoming worse each day....

Samreen I was quite riled up and wanted to be as coherent as possible. Yes it is a sensitive topic and am hoping the makers are going to address this aspect.

I can't help but draw parallels here - raghav after marriage used to always cough or knock when invading her physical space or thoughts (you will see many scenes)

I always feel that if there are negative posts on the forum, it is each one's responsibility to make positive posts taki balance bana rahe. Go to people who are bashing and report or try to highlight the flaws in their thinking. Keeping white will not address the solution. It is like used a bandaid for a cut that needs stitches

Originally posted by: hapc

I might be repeating myself but I'm going to post on every topic that I see on this matter. I 100% agree with you. Pallu being stupid does not justify her being harassed. It's disheartening to see adult women argue otherwise because apparently RR deserves better. It's ironical that they can see RR's pain on his wife being touched by another man but not the pain of the very woman to whom the body belongs. Awful.

Thank you

More power to you to try and argue with them...

Awful it is.. even now some of them were cribbing her not recognising RR..

And she was supposed to say thank you to the disguised RR...

Should have looked at him and listen to him..

Trust me RR admirer here but I find it all so absurd and unjust..

Originally posted by: -abz-

Arnav Kushi? Where the male manhandles the female convinently? If that's romantic, then I'm sorry to say this show is not meant for illogical romance. They have been breaking the stereotypical cliches ever since the beginning and that's the reason why we are choosing to criticize the loopholes.

Nobody recognises anybody with touch that quickly. Antaryami nehi hai Pallavi. Sometimes even we fail to recognise our partner, friend or family members. For somebody who has been shaken by Mandaar touching Pallavi, she would flinch even to the touch of her closed ones. How dare we expect her to recognise Raghav like that? And she is in a state where she cannot think par the situation that she is trapped in. Why should she recognise? Raghav has all the mettle to fool her around to have fun but not say that he is Raghav, her husband?

Intimacy is not in touching or feeling the sparks in touches, sharing intense eye locks, hugging and kissing.

Intimacy is in giving emotinal security and understanding what the person is going through. Raghav has been quite a lot intimate for the past two episodes so much enough that Pallavi is shaken with groundless emotional support.

We see Pallavi Raghav the same way and that's why Raghav's simple action of not revealing his identity by crapping down her personal space is disappointing.

Abi hats off to you girl for this post and the ones after on this thread. I was just telling my mom about your response to my most post yesterday and how much it helped me see things differently. I love you for that.🤗

I don't think maan geet or Arnav khushi or any other ITV couple should be considered as a yardstick for a passionate love story. They were highly problematic.

People need to come out of the bubble to understand that real life main aisa nai hota. The real passion is emotional support and understanding and companionship that a marriage brings. I sometimes shudder at the naivety of people as I was once like them.

Maaneet have been my favorite couple but they weren't an ideal. Raghvi, on the other hand, I can safely say are ones to be held on to the pedestal. This is not because of their eyelock, hugs, kisses. This is purely because of how their love is so much more about their connection, how they helped each other become better, how they accepted all the flaws of each other.

Soni I want u to read this after our conversation today

Originally posted by: lateuser1234

No one is cheering her being harrased. So its not like she was harrased because of what she did. And that is y its not victim blaming.

The disappointment and anger is with what she didnt do. If someone is trying that with anybody and she cant say anything when it was quiet clear to her in what danger she was for past sometime then that non action on her part deserves scolding. It wasnt sudden. It wasnt stranger. It wasnt first time even.

It really nice to feel that we live in ideal world and everything is good but its not. So no matter how scary it is, people needs to stand up for themselves and she has very well shown from start that she can. So this meekness and sudden downward spiral to stupidity can call for anger and disappointment.

And when people blame P, its a character CVs write. So everyone is blaming them only. And Character on the show r analyzed. Nobody thinks its Shivangi and Ashok doing this. Hate that they get is because of ppl who cant keep reel and real separate so thats anyhow no one can justify.

I understand you are disappointed with something she didn't do.

Let's do one thing now - you tell me what should she have done in your opinion and I'll tell you what Mandar would have done to her in retaliation and then we can see both situations to see if P was right or wrong.

And it's not about blaming P or the makers or whatever, the fact is people are victim blaming by even telling she should have done this or that. She was scared for her life. You can't blame her when she has a dangerous unpredictable psycho to deal with.

@samreen, sorry I'm hijacking your posts but Im in no mood to make my own. I hope it's ok with you.

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

by they you mean who? Makers or fans?

They created Raghav rao someone who's 10000+ iq level, with 20 senses and 5 eyes all around his head. He's the god, or maybe bigger than god. By that logic no drama will happen in show and everyone else will pale to comparison. In all this pals/shiva getting the short end of stick as usual with all other FL of itv. No matter what she can't win. It's terrible.

I mean both of them ...

Makers:

Giving a larger than life character who is almost invincible..

Opposite Pallavi no it's Deshmukhs. People dislike Deshmukh to the core and very rightly and here palls was supporting them against Raghav ( apni fam ko hi support karegi na kisi stranger ko toh nahi)

So she was always backlashed for being a Deshmukh bhakt..

It was her journey from the Deshmukh to the Rao in this she had learnt a lot..

People always eyed her with dislike specs, joh badhte badhte is had tak badh chuka hai..

Makers are to be blamed here for not handling the characters properly..

Fans:

Kya hi bolun mai, SKR as RR is a great performer,

More than that he is Hawt and owing to the fact that majority of the fanbase is female ..

But I would say this has turned out to be a very toxic fandom

RR is above everything for them, above the show even..

And irony is they want only one-dimensional RR..

RR who is always angry, don, smarty,

They can't see him crying ( gopi bahu)

They don't want him to be a loving and patient husband (divorce divorce)

And as young twitter Nibbis thinking by belittling Pall they are being loyal to RR

We need to stop this all and be fair and accepting fans..

And stop with all this non-sense you are making him a villain and irking other fans

Sincerely this is from

SKR/ RR admirer

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I understand you are disappointed with something she didn't do.

Let's do one thing now - you tell me what should she have done in your opinion and I'll tell you what Mandar would have done to her in retaliation and then we can see both situations to see if P was right or wrong.

And it's not about blaming P or the makers or whatever, the fact is people are victim blaming by even telling she should have done this or that. She was scared for her life. You can't blame her when she has a dangerous unpredictable psycho to deal with.

@samreen, sorry I'm hijacking your posts but Im in no mood to make my own. I hope it's ok with you.

So u want to write story and discuss assumptions.

Pushed back and move out of that place. she could have also started talking loudly as she was in home nd everyone was at a shout distance. She didn't even had to shout for help but just start iterating same things loudly. Handing him saree and watching him lusting over herself was not even a question.

Scared of life?? He would have stabbed her there. Now this is exaggeration for anything. She knew what she is putting herself into. And what was the plan of action then. This was him trying to touch her. What if he tried something more. If u are jumping in danger than u should have idea how to handle. She decided to be there. If u decide to live with psycho and plan to keep him in assumption that u r in love with him for ur plan then u should have outs. Being scared is not a good out of the situation.

And victim blaming by definition is to imply the wrong here happened because of her actions. Saying what all she could do is called guiding to get out of that situation.