Feeling very disheartened for Pallavi, DT Note pge 23 - Page 2

They never showed pallavi as Gopi Babu

So that.s why bashing creative team for showing pallavi as helpless and dumb girl

I do not agree with ur statement that we are bashing pallavi being a woman and saying that it’s her fault

We are saying it’s creative dumbness

Originally posted by: Isamreen

What Pallavi has to go through today was disheartening to say the least..

Mandar the creepy psycho... He crossed all the limits today..

Isn't it an occasion to feel victorious, after all she deserves this for not listening to Raghav

After all it's the karma hitting her back... ( This is sarcasm)

Blaming and Shaming her for not reacting or slapping mandar

Bashing her coz she didn't recognise Raghav..

And she needed to say THANK YOU to Raghav or shall I say SWAPNIL for saving her 👏ofcourse no courtesy pall how can you be so disrespectful..

I am really disheartened for the amount of victim blaming and Shaming going on here...

She was frozen to her wits, seeing his psycho behaviour..

Like us all she was shocked, she never thought that Mandar can stoop so low..

If you really see her face it will give you goosebumps..

It's not like she was standing and letting it happen..

She was LOOKING at him, looking at his creepiness in full front..

Looking at him looking at her scandalizingly..

So many emotions, she felt scared, angry, repulsive, helpless..

I am sure if not CV has to make to make a point of what length Mandar can go to Raghavi she would have reacted, she was processing...

It was to be shown to Raghav how biggest a creep can be Mandar and he needs to gather his wits and stop playing

It was to show to Pallavi to be careful around him, to what extent Mandar can go to harass her...

Coming here all I see is bashing pall even for this,

Cut her some slack pls, try to be more neutral in your views..

Remove that hatred glasses for her and see, it's not that difficult..

I decided to not come in MF and involve in anything going on, coz I don't have time and energy to simply argue with ppl who are not ready to listen..

But this thing got me highly upset..

@bold

Yes May be .. now that he knows M is torturing her physically he will act now .. and I’m sure he will ..

Coming to Pallavi talking about Mandaar and Swapnil to Raghav was before the creepy scene .. so obviously when she told cook is worse than Mandar was different.. P never expected M will stoop down so much ..

so here there is no point blaming anyone just the circumstances … which will be addressed by P and R now more aggressively because they know how much M can stoop now .

p.s

People might say she reacted to Swapnil in kitchen scene but not to M

Let me tell you it’s easy to go against people u don’t know rather than people who u know ( there are so many things attached to it )

Samreen, we've never spoken before but I'm so proud of this post you've put up.

I was tired seeing the posts of victim blaming since morning. The episode itself was triggering to watch and the comments made it more unpalatable.

I am taking this opportunity to address few things through your post:

1. Yes, she should have been careful to not tuck her pleats outside the common area when there are 2 creeps in the house but even if she was dressed in less clothes she didn't invite M to harass her. This is victim blaming

2. She was visibly uncomfortable and she even asked M to stop and said she wasn't ok till they were married. Even if she didn't say it and was silent, consent should be verbal. He didn't stop. She didn't ask for it and she wasn't happy it was happening to her. Stop victim blaming.

3. She froze and didn't retaliate. She may have retaliated in several other instances with M or others but she didn't do it this instant. Still it didn't give M the pass to invade her personal space.

Other points, I agree this was done to make R see the extent to which M can and so that he stops his childish games of whether my wife recognised me, let me rile her up she's cute etc. They need to get on with the track as this is getting out of hand quickly.

Secondly, the makers need not be so explicit in such scenes (this isn't the first time) as it leaves a very eerie feeling after watching.

Thirdly, the audience needs to stop victim blaming and blame the harassers instead (Mandar and to an extent even Swapnil - that heart action done by any stranger to me would have been anger inducing). In real life these situations lead to criminal consequences that we so casually brush off in ITV.

Originally posted by: Owia

I read someones comment on IF or twitter that let Pallavi return to D house and do all the household chores only then she will realize how lavish the RR mansion is - where she doesnt have to work.

Here only 😆😆

Surprisingly actually not , No comments were made when she listed work she has to do in RR mansion 😆😆

Also aren’t you aware of fact that Raghav’s faults are makers and writer’s fault but Pallavi writes her own script 🤪 so we should only bash her

Kuch bhi karo, she’ll never be enough for Raghav. 😳

Even if she dies one day , she’s to be blamed for causing pain to Raghav. 😊

Thank you for making this post samreen 🤗🤗

Poor girl going through so much mental harassment and on top of that she is scared about her safety. I don't know why people can see this but are busy in making their on theories to victim blame her😭

We can't compare how she responded to SNS and how she did to Mandy.

Cvs are showing difference between how we treat insider vs outsider. SNS is outsider for Pallavi so it's easy for her to object him and family will trust her over SNS.

On the other hand Mandy is an insider. No one will believe her without proof because D family will trust Mandy over Pallavi.

In real life scenarios too its easy to fight strangers than predators from your own family.

That's why majority of sexual assaults against women are by close relatives family members in whole world. Its hard to raise your voice against your own family what them commit those horrible crimes

However people aren't understanding this but indulging in victim blaming. Which is very offputting. That's why so many women keep quiet about these kind if crimes in RL.

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

Thanks Ismareen. Much needed post . Its sad to see women who think that other women who get abused and molested is their own fault, that they didnt stop them enough. Creeps, molesters and rapists do not listen nor care...and Mandar is a murderer. Pallavi was the victim today.

Sad to see the forum .

Cvs did this to make Raghav Swapnil the saver for the day...by putting down Pallavi.

Thank you

I am highly disappointed today..

They say a worst enemy to the women is women

I saw that example..

The words used, comparative for her I will say disgusting..

I thought atleast today they will not blame her or her character, she has gone through so much, she was literally shivering. I felt so sad for her, Shivangi portrayed it so well..

But boy I was wrong...

B- That was the point, CVs wanted to show Raghav and Pall to what length Mandar can go..

Raghav needs to stop playing those games and do the necessary things...

I still do not agree with ur statement for that scene if they wanted to show he can stoop low could have shown some thing else

They could have shown a better scene

Showing Pallu pledging her Sarees in walkway is nana

When u know u have 2 creepy guys at home u never do that

Originally posted by: Isamreen

Thank you

I am highly disappointed today..

They say a worst enemy to the women is women

I saw that example..

The words used, comparative for her I will say disgusting..

I thought atleast today they will not blame her or her character, she has gone through so much, she was literally shivering. I felt so sad for her, Shivangi portrayed it so well..

But boy I was wrong...

B- That was the point, CVs wanted to show Raghav and Pall to what length Mandar can go..

Raghav needs to stop playing those games and do the necessary things...

Yes Ismareen. Times like this women should get together and protest such molestation..reel and real...instead of blaming the victim. So wish Aai was there....to protect Pals...

#StopMolesting.

Originally posted by: drnidsur

Thank you Samreen for making this post 🤗❤️

I admire you so much for always speaking up yaar 🤗

It's so sad what was shown , it's even more sad seeing women doing victim calling and not thinking twice before writing anything about another woman 😒

I am in so much shock to even write anything after reading things broo 😭😡

Its too much to even hold it in for me rn 😭

Thank you Nidhi 🤗

It's such a sad situation isn't it...

I was upset over the epi, then came here and got more upset..

Can people just for once think before they write..

Yes you have freedom of speech, it doesn't mean you can write whatever you want..

Never anticipated this, itni nafrat hai toh stop watching the show and don't spoil it for others...

I totally get you feeling numb after witnessing everything,

This needs to be stopped at all cost

Samreen, I love you so much for always speaking out when you see problematic discourse. It's so admirable. ❤️❤️

Yes, the amount of victim blaming that goes on in this forum is quite disheartening to be honest. After a point, I don't have the energy or mindspace to engage, and some statements I've seen both before and today are quite triggering.

What I do wish people would acknowledge is that no matter what a woman does, she is not asking for it. No matter what she wears, no matter what she says or does. The absence of verbal consent is the absence of consent.

100% of the blame in this scenario must be put on the one doing the harassing and not the victim- and to debate things like 'why didn't she tie her sari earlier' and 'why didn't she fight back' feeds into such a counterproductive narrative in a world where women have fought so damn hard to be listened to in such scenarios.