Heartbreaking. - Page 17

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

As per me he still needs to tell her about the relationship he shared with Pakhi and what he shares now .I don't think other than that he needs to do anything..He has done enough otherwise and he needs to stop running behind her..

No need for clearing that too. Well if they copy KD, Virat will insult Pakhi left and right in front of Sai and even will almost order to leave the room still Sai will think he loves Pakhi and doing just an "Ehsaan" on her. I don't think so he needs to explain his relationship with Pakhi

yeh kaand will end once the show ends forever😆.

Originally posted by: AninditaB

No need for clearing that too. Well if they copy KD, Virat will insult Pakhi left and right in front of Sai and even will almost order to leave the room still Sai will think he loves Pakhi and doing just an "Ehsaan" on her. I don't think so he needs to explain his relationship with Pakhi

From my perspective ..strictly mine so we can disagree there..the source of the issue between the couple has to be handled the way it started.. Him insulting Pakhi randomly or when she deserves is for him to deal with..But things should be clarified in clear words the same way they were established..it was not his actions that told Sai he is in love with someone else . It were his words..

Originally posted by: Nja91

But tbh that makes no sense to me. Why will samrats heart break. He isnt even there. When he comes, Samrat n pp can figure out what to do with their shaadi n their life. I dont think theres any excuse for his "softness" to pp after the time she showed her true colors during Sai ousting. Until then ok- he felt guilty, he didn't see her real intentions. But At that point when she essentially told virat what her expectations were, n virat understood n told her to stay in her limit....after that virat should ne the first one to encourage her to go to maayka and stay away from him-Sai. But nakers have made him a pendulum. He is stern with pp in private but soft to her in public in front of Sai.

Word 👏👏 I never understood his softeness towards Pakhi inspite of her being so vile to Sai and falsely blaming him for things out if her delusions. Infact Samrat not being there definitely cannot be the reason since she clearly stated multiple times she cares too hoots about Samrat

Originally posted by: laksh

He kept seeing Sai to know if she was bothered by it. He was worried but he should have acted quickly.

From what I understand Sai has a mask on and he is not able to see past that. She is very good at masking her emotions. He notices a few things like how she chose the green dress even though she liked the purple one but when it is about himself, he fails to understand her state of mind.

The way I see it, Virat lacks confidence. I think this is where his family where he was born and brought up is playing a role. He knows that Sai didn’t want to get married to him, but he doesn’t know that Sai started to talk about deal or walking out of the marriage only because he brought those all up. He always has been thinking that she doesn’t like him and he could see it later that she has started to care for him and that he is an important person in her life. But Sai saying that she doesn’t care about what he and Pakhi shares to Pakhi or things like that makes him feel that she isn’t possessive about him. He knows what Sunny has said and it is human that we would forget an information at certain times. One wouldn’t be able to keep that in mind all the time before doing a certain things and that’s exactly Virat is also doing.

When Sai gets upset and acts indifferent, he can perceive it as her not having any interest in him and wouldn’t think that she has got upset because of his relationship with Pakhi. He has always felt that Sai wouldn’t like him and that’s why he couldn’t believe when Sunny told him too that Sai has started to like him. All this is because he lacks confidence. Sai is a very confident and bold girl. He is always worried that she might not look at him as a prospective life partner. He doesn’t see her issue or anger or indifference is due to him and Pakhi but is conflicted with the thoughts that what if she is not interested in him at all. One can see how he reacted when Sai told him that may be the girl doesn’t see him as a suitable partner and just so that she doesn’t hurt that guy, she isn’t showing out that she knows what his friend feels for her. His fear that he had set aside while trying to find her feelings for him was brought out by Sai when she spoke that. It is not like rejection, but what if she doesn’t even see him as a prospective life partner, can he impose himself or his relationship on her? No. That is why he is too scared to confess. Whereas Sai on the other hand is a very confident girl who would be able to confess if she comes to know that he has no feelings for Pakhi and also that he doesn’t see Sai as just his responsibility.

@red Agree laksh. This is one of the reasons Virat fails to understand Sai. To him it seems like she doesn't care about their relationship. He doesn't know that she is simply hiding behind her wall or refraining from exerting her wifely haq because she feels she doesn't have any right to do so. A smarter man would still have sent through her defences....but Virat is not capable of that

@green This is what I've read of Virat too. His tendency to wallow in self-pity, being too self-absorbed with his wants and needs, being ultra sensitive to rejection - all point to a person who lacks inner confidence. Outwardly he is a confident, respected police officer, but inwardly he lacks self esteem. He probably never had his feelings validated...instead got approval and validation by excessive people pleasing. It's bound to create some imbalance and void in his heart.

On the other hand, compare Sai. She has been brought up by such unconditional love by her aaba - she has high self-esteem. Sai also makes a lot of mistakes in her relationship with Virat. But her mistakes are always due to the circumstances or her inexperience and never about her emotional issues.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Lovely analysis ❤️.

So I understand both their predicaments , confusion and insecurities. The 'what if' used a lot for Virat is self explanatory, which is the main issue here. Also being an IPS officer he should know failure or rejection should not hold so much importance that you you are unable to see the incidents happening right in front of you. Here I am referring to Pakhi and her non stop drama, if he thinks Sai is uneffected or indifferent because she doesnt care with all the drama she does or what relationship v and p share, then he should never even try to find out her feelings since she should ideally have no feelings for him. Hope I am making Sense 😂😂. Him being the one who started this whole vicious circle he also needs to have the courage to break this. Pyaar Kiya toh darna kyaa 😜

Yes Sai also does lot of assumptions but her assumptions had a foundation which Virat laid very carefully and even nurtured it for a long time. In this whole situation I can relate to Sai more than Virat but feel terribly bad for both 😢 since at this point neither of them are wrong or right.

100% agree Sai is more bold and speaks what is on her mind, and as we all know she will be the one to break the vicious circle her Virat sir created and confess 😂

@bold I am not going to comment on his profession 🤣. He lacks alertness, doesn’t get any intuition too, I don’t know which IPS officer would be like this. They should have shown him in some other profession. I felt like this since the Devi Pulkit track where he didn’t even think of conducting investigation on Pulkit until the Sangeetha letter kaand. Anyone who is getting their sister married would try to do some verification of the to be groom but here he was saying that Sai would have done it 🤦‍♀️.

@italics I mean to say that he does want to find out about Sai’s feelings but when things go wrong or when Sai acts indifferent, he is not able to relate it to the fact that it is is because of his and Pakhi’s relationship. He actually doesn’t keep that in his equation at all. He acts as if he never had a past and all that should matter to anyone is how he is now, hence he doesn’t even think how all those could be affecting Sai. And on top of it, even though he tries fo find if Sai has feelings for him, he starts wallowing in self pity and starts to think that Sai can never have any feelings for him. As you have already said in the previous message, it is all contradictory. His character is like that. I think all the characters in Ghum are like that 🤣🤣.

@blue definitely 🤦‍♀️

Yeah, Sai’s assumptions has a foundation and I too understand her position. I just try to understand him too 😀.

Last para 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣🤣

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Sorry, my brain was full yesterday.☺️😆

I understand the gist of what you are saying.

Laksh and I discussed the same point - that Virat may have been acting in ignorance due to Sai hiding her displeasure. I don't know why we dismissed the idea...

It is convincing except for one point which I will discuss below.

Even if we remove Sai from the picture, there have been times when Virat's interactions with Pakhi have seemed inappropriate. Forget Sai, we as the audience have squirmed at that. I suppose we should blame the writers for this? I guess they wanted to create a 'grey' zone, where Virat's behaviour may easily be misunderstood by Sai but be also be totally out of good intentions on his part. But they have done a bad job of it...because no sensible man would behave like Virat does with his ex-turned-bhabhi. It makes Virat look bad.

From the discussion me and Nethra have had, we both felt that whether or not Virat knows that it is impacting Sai or not, he should have maintained distance from Pakhi. He should be acting with Pakhi the way he would have expected Sai to act with any of her friends.

Virat crosses his lines and takes things for granted always thinking that he has nothing for Pakhi or his intentions are not wrong. Whether his intentions are right or wrong, he should be doing things that he would have expected from Sai. Also, even after knowing what was running in Pakhi’s mind, he kept doing a few things which wasn’t right in anyway.

I wouldn’t be surprised if his behaviour towards Pakhi will continue to be the this way in the future too. I would say that this is all recklessness. He should be mindful of his behaviour especially in this.

Originally posted by: laksh

From the discussion me and Nethra have had, we both felt that whether or not Virat knows that it is impacting Sai or not, he should have maintained distance from Pakhi. He should be acting with Pakhi the way he would have expected Sai to act with any of her friends.

Virat crosses his lines and takes things for granted always thinking that he has nothing for Pakhi or his intentions are not wrong. Whether his intentions are right or wrong, he should be doing things that he would have expected from Sai. Also, even after knowing what was running in Pakhi’s mind, he kept doing a few things which wasn’t right in anyway.

I wouldn’t be surprised if his behaviour towards Pakhi will continue to be the this way in the future too. I would say that this is all recklessness. He should be mindful of his behaviour especially in this.

He indeed crosses lines with Pakhi. Most importantly his obvious frankness which doesn't go unnoticed by Sai. He gives her cold shoulder but according to his convenient.If she hadn't pushed Sai in the birthday I think he would continue with his leniency.My eyes rolled when he said that was just past..Like really that instructor was giving full details about your chemistry with your ex/bhabi in front your wife and expect her to understand..

Today Sai asked all the right questions but she also crossed line..Deal or no deal they got married with full rituals..five years or five minutes they are bounded by this relationship. Virat has every right to celebrate...They both have chosen for this companionship..Physical intimacy is also part of love but mental intimacy is more important.. SaiRat do share the mental intimacy... Sai doesn't need to be so matured to understand this..Its a natural traits of any human..

As A viewer I am thoroughly dissapointed with upcoming track.. Looks like I might have leave even before shruti track. It's getting repetitive..🤢👎🏼

Originally posted by: Shaome

He indeed crosses lines with Pakhi. Most importantly his obvious frankness which doesn't go unnoticed by Sai. He gives her cold shoulder but according to his convenient.If she hadn't pushed Sai in the birthday I think he would continue with his leniency.My eyes rolled when he said that was just past..Like really that instructor was giving full details about your chemistry with your ex/bhabi in front your wife and expect her to understand..

Today Sai asked all the right questions but she also crossed line..Deal or no deal they got married with full rituals..five years or five minutes they are bounded by this relationship. Virat has every right to celebrate...They both have chosen for this companionship..Physical intimacy is also part of but mental intimacy is more important.. SaiRat do share the mental intimacy... Sai doesn't need to be so matured to understand this..Its a natural traits of any human..

As A viewer I am thoroughly dissapointed with upcoming track.. Looks like I might have leave even before shruti track. It's getting repetitive..🤢👎🏼

@1st para I agree. And what was with him saying that that was the truth 🤦‍♀️. Because that was the truth in the past, does it mean that he will let the lady speak those? I didn’t get it.

I can still understand Sai, her position, her reaction to the anniversary and where all the anger is coming from. I am yet to watch today’s episode, just watched a few clippings, will share my views once I do it. I don’t know what line she had crossed. If it is about her asking he is insulting the feelings of two women, I think she meant to say that he had promised Pakhi that he would never give a place to anyone else in his life, she also has seen and heard a few times from Pakhi herself that Virat has conveniently moved on, is playing with her emotions and Sai can also see that he is breaking the promise and is trying to move on with her. I think Sai thinks that if she wasn’t in picture at all, Virat wouldn’t have broken that promise. She heard a story from him the day before where it looked like he was talking about his failed love story, she saw him listening to the yoga instructor without interrupting her immediately and yet he wants to celebrate their marriage anniversary. They have added a lot of elements to add up to her confusion that Virat has feelings for Pakhi but is trying to move on because he has got married, because he thinks that he has some duties as a husband. She lets him enter her space, lets him get close to her but takes a few steps behind as soon as she starts to feel that he harbours feelings for Pakhi. His story made it look like he was trying to share his dukhbhari kahaani to her and then the same day, he was doing this too which she couldn’t accept at all. When she asked why would the girl come to the lovers point with his friend if she doesn’t have any feelings for him, he had again said that their relationship need not be a relationship of love and can be like theirs, bound out of responsibility and she was unhappy to hear that yet again from him. Now after telling this way, if he celebrates wedding anniversary, how is she supposed to perceive it as. That is how I understood it as.

Anyway, I am yet to watch the whole episode, just sharing my understanding based on the story so far and a few clippings that I watched today. I felt that she was trying to remind Virat to choose one person. She said the same when she confronted him after the pool scene too. Even then he had tried to kiss her in the venue which made her tell that. She feels that he is conflicted with his own thoughts. It is like how Virat asks Sai not to cross a line when she talks certain things to Pakhi, Sai also was correcting him. They both take that liberty to correct each other actually. Another reason being both don’t like when the other goes wrong. They have high regards for each other and hence they don’t want them to make any mistakes even unintentionally.

Originally posted by: laksh

From the discussion me and Nethra have had, we both felt that whether or not Virat knows that it is impacting Sai or not, he should have maintained distance from Pakhi. He should be acting with Pakhi the way he would have expected Sai to act with any of her friends.

Virat crosses his lines and takes things for granted always thinking that he has nothing for Pakhi or his intentions are not wrong. Whether his intentions are right or wrong, he should be doing things that he would have expected from Sai. Also, even after knowing what was running in Pakhi’s mind, he kept doing a few things which wasn’t right in anyway.

I wouldn’t be surprised if his behaviour towards Pakhi will continue to be the this way in the future too. I would say that this is all recklessness. He should be mindful of his behaviour especially in this.

Honestly, I would not have been able to tolerate his double standards.

Forget any relationship or spousal expectations. Look at it from the POV of fairness. Where is his sense of fairness? When you create a ruckus at anybody's lie, you should not lie yourself.

So the moment he started creating tamasha over whom Sai interacts with, his own sense of fairness should have made him cautious in his own behaviour towards Pakhi - irrespective of Sai.

Can anyone tell me why he needs to interact with Pakhi so much? I'm not sure what the writers are trying to portray. Virakhi actions have gone beyond usual interaction between family members. Pakhi comes into their room as and when she likes, he goes into her room during a fight, she brings him food, he asks her for food, she interferes in their relationship. None of these actions are necessary and totally avoidable. Only place where I may understand him is when he oversteps in a moment of guilt. Honestly such instances have been few and far between. Most of their interactions have been avoidable and inappropriate. Will he take the same liberty with Karishma? So he does know how to behave with a brother's wife.👏 If Samrat were to witness their interactions, he will be very very hurt.

He foolishly convinces himself that he is keeping the maryada of relationships just because his intentions are pure. Are good intentions enough?

When I watch the last couple of episodes, I feel much more for Sai. This is a very sensitive issue - it can create a huge chasm in a marriage - even a normal one. Vaada, deal marriage I can understand, but his careless behaviour with Pakhi doesn't earn any sympathies.