Futoor| Faysal Quraishi , Wahaj A, Kiran H, Hiba B, Kamran J - Page 83

I'm supposed to feel sympathy for haider n again mehmal was touching him today n he allowed it so easily... Like even Indian dramas n movies make thevman flinch on other woman's touch... In contrast DN hasn't allowed hamza to touch... She hasn't said ilu too today n video calling right in front of haider...

Hamza getting to know about pregnancy will be interesting.. I hope he says I'll accept u with the child so I can totally get his junoon wala pyaar n have an alternative end in my head

Originally posted by: zooni.blue

I'm supposed to feel sympathy for haider n again mehmal was touching him today n he allowed it so easily... Like even Indian dramas n movies make thevman flinch on other woman's touch... In contrast DN hasn't allowed hamza to touch... She hasn't said ilu too today n video calling right in front of haider...

Hamza getting to know about pregnancy will be interesting.. I hope he says I'll accept u with the child so I can totally get his junoon wala pyaar n have an alternative end in my head

Yea, this is what grates my nerves. Haider is A Ok with Mehmal being all over him but was having swooning victorian aunty vapours over the mere idea of DN having a past. I mean, he is openly and unapologetically shown as self obsessed and self absorbed, and somehow that still makes him the poor bechara type who we are supposed to root for. He is a meesna , is what he is..

It's quite an accomplishment that in today's age of misogynist tv shows, this show manages to cross new lows..

I am just glad that Haider did not doubt that the baby wasnt his ..the end is clearly DN and Haider ..it would have been very hard to digest this otherwise

I m really really really impressed with this week's 2 epis

A lot of things happened

FQ and Hiba stole the show as Haider and DN with some terrific acting....loved how Mehmal went home with a proper apology and realization from her husband ....I have always liked Tipu sharif aka Mehmal hubby......he should get more work .....this wk FQ as Haider was just outstanding......I liked how everyone is flawed yet everyone is craving for true love .......Mehmal issue is solved this wk ..... hopefully next wk Hamza issue will also be solved ......I m really excited for the ending now

Originally posted by: zooni.blue

I like what you've written n i agree with most...

I can sympathise with hamza.. It's probably because his character is fleshed out well n wahaj plays him so convincingly... Shows don't have mental health concept but rehab is ideal here

I don't get haider n though he acting all majnu now I can't digest DN with him... It's probably the slap it's kind of not what a protagonist should do n if done need to regret a lot...

DN again I can connect coz middle class girls can't really go against family... N she tried with haider n would have succeeded if not for mehmal....

I'm watching this for wahaj n I wish they would keep him grey n not ruin him but today's episode means it's going to not end well for hamza...

Whatever but I'm gonna watch till end coz this drama strangely doesn't have bechariis or even black negative character either everyone is flawed

My problem with the show is the regressive mentality that is promoted by the writer

Writer in an interview said that a girl should try not to fall in love before marriage. She needs to be careful. Because if she gets married to someone else then it would create problem in her married life.

BUT why is the same not followed when it comes to a man ? She didn't utter a single word about this ..

Writer herself admitted that people often expect women to be perfect but same rules don't apply for men which is wrong BUT she herself has done the same in Fitoor.

A girl can be forcefully married against her wishes and it's fine as per the writer. No repercussions whatsoever.

A brother can openly threaten his sister of murdering her but again that's absolutely fine coz in next scene he can simply hug her.

For a husband his wife should pure and pious and shouldn't have any past but he can surely have a past and shouldn't be questioned for it.

He can slap her, humiliate her and instead of verbally apologising can simply try to buy her forgiveness by gifting her a necklace and yet gets away with everything and will be considered merely as flawed. What if DN had slapped him and humiliated him.

Husband and Wife who aren't even in love with each other yet have a physical relationship where wife gets pregnant too.

Mehmal's husband - A man can be a complete casanova, can slap his wife but then he comes and apologizes and the woman is supposed to forgive him and go back. Plus Mehmal who was always so self centric has a realization and simply goes back after pining for Haider for like 40 odd episodes

All of these seems so regressive to me at least.

Mehmal is now out of the picture. Story is going towards its end. DN and haider would be end game

Originally posted by: anshvi

My problem with the show is the regressive mentality that is promoted by the writer

Writer in an interview said that a girl should try not to fall in love before marriage. She needs to be careful. Because if she gets married to someone else then it would create problem in her married life.

BUT why is the same not followed when it comes to a man ? She didn't utter a single word about this ..

Writer herself admitted that people often expect women to be perfect but same rules don't apply for men which is wrong BUT she herself has done the same in Fitoor.

A girl can be forcefully married against her wishes and it's fine as per the writer. No repercussions whatsoever.

A brother can openly threaten his sister of murdering her but again that's absolutely fine coz in next scene he can simply hug her.

For a husband his wife should pure and pious and shouldn't have any past but he can surely have a past and shouldn't be questioned for it.

He can slap her, humiliate her and instead of verbally apologising can simply try to buy her forgiveness by gifting her a necklace and yet gets away with everything and will be considered merely as flawed. What if DN had slapped him and humiliated him.

Husband and Wife who aren't even in love with each other yet have a physical relationship where wife gets pregnant too.

Mehmal's husband - A man can be a complete casanova, can slap his wife but then he comes and apologizes and the woman is supposed to forgive him and go back. Plus Mehmal who was always so self centric has a realization and simply goes back after pining for Haider for like 40 odd episodes

All of these seems so regressive to me at least.

Just because these thing are wrong does not mean its not real..there are plenty of Dns, Haiders Mehmals and even Hamza ...men do have it easier then women

But in this drama only things is DN would not get away with having an affair openly infront of her husband in real world ..hardly such husbands exists

Haider kept Mehmal in his house because she was his cousin too and had no where to go ..agreed Haider should have accepted DN had a past just like him ..and yes he should have maintained distance from Mehmal ..but it was clear he was not having an affair with her and was not interested in her

DN was wronged but having an affair while being married ...and having an affair infront of her husband is worse in my opinion ..she should have left Haider first then moved on ..and i would have had same opinion if it was a guy

Originally posted by: M.A.K123

Just because these thing are wrong does not mean its not real..there are plenty of Dns, Haiders Mehmals and even Hamza ...men do have it easier then women

But in this drama only things is DN would not get away with having an affair openly infront of her husband in real world ..hardly such husbands exists

Haider kept Mehmal in his house because she was his cousin too and had no where to go ..agreed Haider should have accepted DN had a past just like him ..and yes he should have maintained distance from Mehmal ..but it was clear he was not having an affair with her and was not interested in her

DN was wronged but having an affair while being married ...and having an affair infront of her husband is worse in my opinion ..she should have left Haider first then moved on ..and i would have had same opinion if it was a guy

This mentality that coz such regressive things happen so they should be shown as opposed to WHAT should be done not been shown is the problem.

Makers should showcase what should and must happen instead of showing what usually happens. Instead of showing a woman after getting humiliated and slapped decides to stay with the husband (just coz it happens) they can show how she can file for divorce and make a career and be independent. Aspirational things should be shown and promoted instead of regressive content.

Showing things is one thing and justifying them is another. Normalizing a husband slapping his wife is wrong.

First what exactly does AFFAIR mean ? Writer doesn't even know what it means yet uses the term so freely.

Also DN clearly informed Haider and asked for divorce last time I checked.

She clearly is a flawed character too. Who said what she is doing makes sense BUT then she isn't being whitewashed neither she is being projected as a saint while Haider despite being so problematic is being whitewashed and projected as the real victim (these are writer's words and not mine).

Showing a man who had the audacity to keep his cousin WHO IS HIS EX in his house, hiding from his wife about his past relationship but himself having a problem if her wife had a past, a man who wanted a pure and pious woman as his wife , a man who slapped his wife once and tried to do it again and not yet has apologised for what he did has been projected as the REAL VICTIM. That is my problem.

Problem is that writer wants to portray how if a girl has a relationship before marriage then that is a huge problem BUT doesn't feel the same about a man having a past. Different standards for men and women is what I have a problem with.

Show DN, Haider, Mehmal and Hamza as flawed characters and let them meet with a befitting end...Their flaws should not be brushed under a carpet...they should be called out for their flaws. ...all should end up alone instead of projecting a flawed character as a saint which he clearly is not and brushing under all his past mistakes under the rug.

Originally posted by: anshvi

This mentality that coz such regressive things happen so they should be shown as opposed to WHAT should be done not been shown is the problem.

Makers should showcase what should and must happen instead of showing what usually happens. Instead of showing a woman after getting humiliated and slapped decides to stay with the husband (just coz it happens) they can show how she can file for divorce and make a career and be independent. Aspirational things should be shown and promoted instead of regressive content.

Showing things is one thing and justifying them is another. Normalizing a husband slapping his wife is wrong.

First what exactly does AFFAIR mean ? Writer doesn't even know what it means yet uses the term so freely.

Also DN clearly informed Haider and asked for divorce last time I checked.

She clearly is a flawed character too. Who said what she is doing makes sense BUT then she isn't being whitewashed neither she is being projected as a saint while Haider despite being so problematic is being whitewashed and projected as the real victim (these are writer's words and not mine).

Showing a man who had the audacity to keep his cousin WHO IS HIS EX in his house, hiding from his wife about his past relationship but himself having a problem if her wife had a past, a man who wanted a pure and pious woman as his wife , a man who slapped his wife once and tried to do it again and not yet has apologised for what he did has been projected as the REAL VICTIM. That is my problem.

Problem is that writer wants to portray how if a girl has a relationship before marriage then that is a huge problem BUT doesn't feel the same about a man having a past. Different standards for men and women is what I have a problem with.

Show DN, Haider, Mehmal and Hamza as flawed characters and let them meet with a befitting end...Their flaws should not be brushed under a carpet...they should be called out for their flaws. ...all should end up alone instead of projecting a flawed character as a saint which he clearly is not and brushing under all his past mistakes under the rug.

Sorry but where did i say such mentality should be or should not be shown?.my point was that such characters are not far from reality..and no one justified anything ..where Haider slapped DN ..she was also shown answering back and standing up for herself ...

But it is a fact that a woman in our society suffer more then a man ..and unfortunately such mentalities will not change so easily specially not by watching dramas .. realistically it will only have a minimum affect but yes! atleast makers can try by not justifying such mentality but then again they are in this for the money ..so its all for trp not to change society mostly

Affair i believe is a pakistani slang to describe gf/bf relationship ... And DN was video calling and meeting up Hamza before she said anything to Haider ...

The right ending in this particular drama in my opinion would be DN moving without relying on any man

Originally posted by: M.A.K123

Sorry but where did i say such mentality should be or should not be shown?.my point was that such characters are not far from reality..and no one justified anything ..where Haider slapped DN ..she was also shown answering back and standing up for herself ...

But it is a fact that a woman in our society suffer more then a man ..and unfortunately such mentalities will not change so easily specially not by watching dramas .. realistically it will only have a minimum affect but yes! atleast makers can try by not justifying such mentality but then again they are in this for the money ..so its all for trp not to change society mostly

Affair i believe is a pakistani slang to describe gf/bf relationship ... And DN was video calling and meeting up Hamza before she said anything to Haider ...

The right ending in this particular drama in my opinion would be DN moving without relying on any man

Okay so I don't know what exactly does Affair mean in Pak.

The universal meaning which I am aware of is that if 2 people are in a sexual relationship with each other despite being married to others (one or both can be married to other partners)

So, what DN had before marriage can't be termed as a affair.

She called Hamza, met him (didn't let him touch her though) and post that decided to file for a divorce. She met Hamza post Haider slapped her, questioned her character, went and complained to her mom and post Hamza came and sort of took a stand for her. But what she is doing now is stupid. She is shown as quite a dumb character as per me.

Yes characters like Haider , DN, Hamza etc. Are real but they should not be justified. Their wrong doings should have repercussions so that audience can realise what is right and wrong.

They in a way did justify his slap. In the interview writer said that actor was okay with the slap, Haider's anger was building up and poor fellow just burst out.

Even in the drama when Hamza questions DN that Haider always humiliates her..she defended Haider by saying that it was coz maybe I did something wrong (I don't remember the exact lines but this is what she meant)

We are yet to see Haider verbally apologise to DN for slapping and humiliating her...I hope this at least happens if nothing else.

Yes such dramas don't really change how a society thinks but at least they can avoid promoting stuff which is wrong. But like u said all is business and at the end of the day ratings are what matter.

And producers will continue to create such regressive content untill and unless they get ratings while beautiful shows like DNUTN etc. Are unable to reach wider audience despite being so progressive and inspiring. But I will prefer shows like DNUTN over Fitoor.

Yes, even I feel the same...ideal ending would be all 4 ending up alone, reflecting on their own mistakes and trying to become better versions of themselves. None of these characters deserve to be with each other tbh.